Tony Mowbray Discussion

[rigger]

25 minutes ago, Darwen Rover 007 said:

Push the boat out get Chris Hughton in now set us up for next season..

Mowbray = Mediocrity 

That was nowhere near mediocre 

[bazza]

If he'd played youngsters to give them a chance I would have understood losing. But all the old men and useless ones in the side?   He has to go.

In fact the whole club needs to be re-arranged from top to bottom. But that won't happen.

[tomphil]

I'm telling you all now that with the way things might go in terms of finance we'll be starting next season again with Mulgrew. Williams and Bell in the back line.  Bennett shoehorned in somewhere and Samuel given a new deal.

He hasn't got either the finances or the spine to get rid of a lot of those. Number one priority for him is looking after everybody.

[G Somerset Rover]

Just now, tomphil said:

I'm telling you all now that with the way things might go in terms of finance we'll be starting next season again with Mulgrew. Williams and Bell in the back line.  Bennett shoehorned in somewhere and Samuel given a new deal.

He hasn't got either the finances or the spine to get rid of a lot of those. Number one priority for him is looking after everybody.

Nyambe cashed in on, so a backline come August of:

Bennet - Mulgrew - Williams - Bell

Gulp.

[tomphil]

Just now, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Nyambe cashed in on, so a backline come August of:

Bennet - Mulgrew - Williams - Bell

Gulp.

Yep i nearly inserted that bit.

[rigger]

2 minutes ago, bazza said:

If he'd played youngsters to give them a chance I would have understood losing. But all the old men and useless ones in the side?   He has to go.

In fact the whole club needs to be re-arranged from top to bottom. But that won't happen.

A small start would be to play in our blue and white shirts whenever possible, let’s try to instil a little pride.

[Proudtobeblue&white]

Just now, tomphil said:

I'm telling you all now that with the way things might go in terms of finance we'll be starting next season again with Mulgrew. Williams and Bell in the back line.  Bennett shoehorned in somewhere and Samuel given a new deal.

He hasn't got either the finances or the spine to get rid of a lot of those. Number one priority for him is looking after everybody.

I tend to agree. The madness is the Loons will believe mid-table mediocrity is the norm. Irrespective of their losses TM delivers stability. If I was a rich person/family, why would I not need value for money? Why are they not asking serious questions about what their eye-watering investment actually gets them? I'm no Loon apologist, but there must be a limit to their patience and I fear at some point they will pull the plug. Next year if they allow TM to continue as is. Where will that leave our club. I still don't know why they are here.

[Doogs]

Tony's time is up now..We fans have had enough of his silly team selections   

[Stuart]

7 minutes ago, bazza said:

If he'd played youngsters to give them a chance I would have understood losing. But all the old men and useless ones in the side?   He has to go.

In fact the whole club needs to be re-arranged from top to bottom. But that won't happen.

Which is why those who have stuck by through this Venkys shit-show are starting to lose interest.

It’s a more ‘pleasant’ version of the Kean situation. A kick in the teeth but with a Werthers  Original to suck on.

[simongarnerisgod]

im`e starved of watching attacking football,i just want genuine wingers,2 strikers up front,a solid back line,a goalkeeper who is`nt a flake and 2 full backs who can fly up the wings,give us some excitement please,i don`t care about promotion it`s not going to happen anytime soon,but i just want to see some ATTACKING FOOTBALL?

[RoverKyle]

Get him gone. I can't keep watching these teams he puts out. You don't need to be involved in football as a profession to see what he's doing wrong.

[tomphil]

Just now, Proudtobeblue&white said:

I tend to agree. The madness is the Loons will believe mid-table mediocrity is the norm. Irrespective of their losses TM delivers stability. If I was a rich person/family, why would I not need value for money? Why are they not asking serious questions about what their eye-watering investment actually gets them? I'm no Loon apologist, but there must be a limit to their patience and I fear at some point they will pull the plug. Next year if they allow TM to continue as is. Where will that leave our club. I still don't know why they are here.

They have half an interest i think that's the main problem. Most of the time they just won't be arsed what's happening but when they take an interest and ask questions we probably suddenly get a reaction from the manager.  I just don't think they are that bothered that's why it's easy street and when a manager has been here long enough to see how it works they just play it to their own advantage.

The void between here and India remains huge for a host of reasons.  The inbetweener messenger man is either thick as pigswill or on such a good number himself that he doesn't want to risk by rocking their boat.

On Mowbray yes by and large he done a decent job but far from flawless yet if he did leave or get sacked you look at the squad and he's left us in a bit of a pickle. There'd be a hell of a hard job for the next guy to sort out really although he'd have some decent stuff to work with there is no proper defensive base no reliable goal scorer.........and probably no money !

[Claytons Left Boot]

Mowbray needed to get the spine of the team right and go from there. No need to be the best players in the division, just very good and importantly, consistent. Keeper, Centre Half, Central Midfielder and Forward. He has failed miserably. Never addressed the Keeper position, Centre Half sorted to a degree but best lad only a loanee and we don’t have the funds to buy, all midfielders flatter to deceive with none being consistent. Danny Graham been half decent up top but has had shelf life and is now way past his best. Completely spunked £12m on two cart horses to replace DG who, despite his age, is still better than either of them. 

 

[RoverKyle]

1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said:

im`e starved of watching attacking football,i just want genuine wingers,2 strikers up front,a solid back line,a goalkeeper who is`nt a flake and 2 full backs who can fly up the wings,give us some excitement please,i don`t care about promotion it`s not going to happen anytime soon,but i just want to see some ATTACKING FOOTBALL?

Yet Tony would have you believe that we play attractive, attacking football. We've literally just sat through 180 minutes of us lumping it forward to Armstrong or Holtby playing as a false 9. The mind boggles.

[simongarnerisgod]

Just now, RoverKyle said:

Yet Tony would have you believe that we play attractive, attacking football. We've literally just sat through 180 minutes of us lumping it forward to Armstrong or Holtby playing as a false 9. The mind boggles.

well tony can`t hoodwink me thats attacking play!!!,ffs if there was a prize for going sideways and back we`de win it without question

[Proudtobeblue&white]

The last two games, against, well not teams setting the division alight, have been abysmal. And all agree no fans is levelling up,"playing away" as a leveller. Not for us.

[joey_big_nose]

Spine of the team is decent - Lenihan, Travis, Dack, Armstrong. A few decent players around the squad - Holtby, Evans, Nyambe.

But he's done himself by buying absolute and utter garbage strikers to play on the wing for £12M rather than sorting out the defence. Mistakes that big cost you your job.

He's only got himself to blame. Hope Venjys fancy dipping into their pocket this summer for a new manager and at least half a dozen new players.

[Ewood Ace]

Why is he still playing 4-3-3 when did we ever play that system and look any good? 

[superniko]

1 minute ago, joey_big_nose said:

Spine of the team is decent - Lenihan, Travis, Dack, Armstrong. A few decent players around the squad - Holtby, Evans, Nyambe.

But he's done himself by buying absolute and utter garbage strikers to play on the wing for £12M rather than sorting out the defence. Mistakes that big cost you your job.

He's only got himself to blame. Hope Venjys fancy dipping into their pocket this summer for a new manager and at least half a dozen new players.

Exactly this. The spine of our team is easily top 6 quality, but that’s not even half the team. 
 

You’re right though, Tony can only blame himself, spending £12m on strikers without fixing CB#2, LB, any player with a remote bit of width. 
 

[arbitro]

The most sobering thought of the Mowbray debate is that the upcoming transfer window will be his seventh. He is a mid table manager, an average Joe who will keep us mid/lower Championship.

[Claytons Left Boot]

19 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Spine of the team is decent - Lenihan, Travis, Dack, Armstrong. A few decent players around the squad - Holtby, Evans, Nyambe.

Never had a decent keeper and no one to put the ball in the net. That’s half the spine. 
 

I had completely forgotten about Dack for some reason.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 minutes ago, arbitro said:

The most sobering thought of the Mowbray debate is that the upcoming transfer window will be his seventh. He is a mid table manager, an average Joe who will keep us mid/lower Championship.

I'd take mid championship next season now if Mowbray is still here.

[Miller11]

Anyone calling for Mowbray to go, please just remember one thing...

Any replacement will come from HSH (the reincarnation of SEM). 
Venkys have always and continue to only appoint managers from their “trusted advisors”

HSH represent Mowbray, Coyle and Lambert

HSH = Honeyman, Sheron, Horner

One former SEM director, 2 former SEM employees.

Do a quick google search on Sheron... see who he has worked with and what they got up to.

 

 

Lessons learned? Bollocks.

 

[Proudtobeblue&white]

4 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

Anyone calling for Mowbray to go, please just remember one thing...

Any replacement will come from HSH (the reincarnation of SEM). 
Venkys have always and continue to only appoint managers from their “trusted advisors”

HSH represent Mowbray, Coyle and Lambert

HSH = Honeyman, Sheron, Horner

One former SEM director, 2 former SEM employees.

Do a quick google search on Sheron... see who he has worked with and what they got up to.

 

 

Lessons learned? Bollocks.

 

Totally agree, so we are completely becalmed in a rudderless ship, with no captain, let alone a ship builder to rely upon. We're fucked till the Loons get into the lifeboats and sail away. And no I have no interest in a life on the ocean wave!

[joey_big_nose]

39 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

Why is he still playing 4-3-3 when did we ever play that system and look any good? 

He's playing it because he needs to fit his "wide strikers" in somehow and that way he can get two of them in.