Tony Mowbray Discussion

[Bohinen 22]

Seven and a half Sam Gallagher’s would get you about five goals a season. 

[G Somerset Rover]

13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Eddie Niedzwiecki is Mark Bowen number 2. Kevin Hitchcock is goalkeeper coach at MLS team New England Revolution. Glyn Hodges is manager at AFC Wimbledon. 

Thoughts on TM, right now Chaddy? Not on the wind up - genuinely curious if you’d keep him.

[DeeCee]

Get Ainsworth in now!

[darrenrover]

I'd be approaching Julian Stéphan who manages Rennes in Ligue 1 in France. He's only 39 and had Rennes in 3rd place when Ligue 1 season was curtailed due to Covid-19.

I doubt that he'll appear on anyone at Ewood's radar but IMO he'd be a decent shout and have a contact book entirely different to the expensive shite that we've become accustomed to drumming up in recent years.

 

Edited July 4, 2020 by darrenrover

[BlackburnEnd75]

They aren't going to get rid of him.

The club made him his own flag and everything.

[RevidgeBlue]

If only we would do a Bristol City and send Mowbray packing tonight giving us time to assess our options ahead of next season.

I really think we are heading for a world of trouble if he is here much longer. Every man and his dog can see we have no first choice keeper and only have 5 outfield players who are good enough : Lenihan, Nyambe, Travis, Dack and Armstrong and Nyambe and Dack are entering the last 12 months of their contracts.

The only thing that matters should be keeping those five and a humongous clearout is needed of most of the rest of the deadwood, that is if any of them would attract any interest from elsewhere.

Instead we know exactly what will happen, Mowbray will attempt to, and probably succeed in conning Waggott and the owners that the "long term plan" is still on track and persuade them to spunk yet more money against the wall on new contracts and/or extensions "to keep the group together".

[PeteJD13]

14 minutes ago, darrenrover said:

I'd be approaching Julian Stéphan who manages Rennes in Ligue 1 in France. He's only 39 and had Rennes in 3rd place when Ligue 1 season was curtailed due to Covid-19.

I doubt that he'll appear on anyone at Ewood's radar but IMO he'd be a decent shout and have a contact book entirely different to the expensive shite that we've become accustomed to drumming up in recent years.

 

Why would he leave Rennes and European football? They have a state of the art academy and the owners are one of the richest in the world 

[PeteJD13]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

If only we would do a Bristol City and send Mowbray packing tonight giving us time to assess our options ahead of next season.

I really think we are heading for a world of trouble if he is here much longer. Every man and his dog can see we have no first choice keeper and only have 5 outfield players who are good enough : Lenihan, Nyambe, Travis, Dack and Armstrong and Nyambe and Dack are entering the last 12 months of their contracts.

The only thing that matters should be keeping those five and a humongous clearout is needed of most of the rest of the deadwood, that is if any of them would attract any interest from elsewhere.

Instead we know exactly what will happen, Mowbray will attempt to, and probably succeed in conning Waggott and the owners that the "long term plan" is still on track and persuade them to spunk yet more money against the wall on new contracts and/or extensions "to keep the group together".

We won’t do a bristol city their owner has invested massively in sport in Bristol as a whole, he has a vision to make them PL and make the rugby team decent. The other thing is he’s a bristol city fan sort of the polar opposite of our owners 

[RevidgeBlue]

32 minutes ago, DeeCee said:

Get Ainsworth in now!

The ship's probably sailed on that one if they go up.

[Lucimo]

8 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

The ship's probably sailed on that one if they go up.

I disagree. I think Ainsworth would come if approached. That said, I'm not sure I'd want him, and its all irrelevant anyway as Mowbray appears to have a job for life. 

[darrenrover]

10 minutes ago, PeteJD13 said:

Why would he leave Rennes and European football? They have a state of the art academy and the owners are one of the richest in the world 

Money and ambition. Do we not have both your other points too?

[Cherry Blue]

Replacing the manager is just wishful thinking. For all this discussion TM is staying. No one can challenge him due to the set up at the club, everybody knows this.

[PeteJD13]

13 minutes ago, darrenrover said:

Money and ambition. Do we not have both your other points too?

no not really we have about a million quid head space before FFP and we don't really spend that much, we are a million miles of european football and the top flight

[Amo]

[whalleyrover]

1 hour ago, Lucimo said:

I disagree. I think Ainsworth would come if approached. That said, I'm not sure I'd want him, and its all irrelevant anyway as Mowbray appears to have a job for life. 

Ainsworth would walk to Ewood given the chance

[Claytons Left Boot]

Venky’s were badly advised by a whole host of different people after they rolled into town, the worst being Jerome Anderson and the Kentaro connection. There were rumours of Glasgow gangsters, managers came and went through the revolving door, we were relegated, started losing money on a grand scale and then finally in came Tony Mowbray.

I am not defending Venky’s in any way here, I want them out more than most but, after several years of utter shenanigans, there was finally a sense of normality especially after promotion back to the Championship. I think they found it easy to get along with Tony Mowbray and, for the first time in their tenure, I think they felt they were dealing with someone they could trust.

In any other situation, Tony Mowbray would have been sacked by now or, at least, be extremely close to it. Despite wasting a further chunk of their money, for the reasons I mention above, I feel they will be very reluctant to part ways with their man and we’ll be stuck with him for the foreseeable. Throw in Waggott and the old pals act and there will be even less pressure to get rid of TM from within.

[Angry_Pirate]

Time for another poll?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 minutes ago, Angry_Pirate said:

Time for another poll?

I think so, not that it will make any difference.

[Darwen Rover 007]

I would give Johnson the gigg till the end of the season.. as long as he doesn't get us near relegation I would give him a season to learn and expect him to be very close to play offs following season..

Could be a gem.. also could be a dudd but right now quite low risk, alternatively we can continue to kill ourselves softly with Tomo ??‍♂️

[LDRover]

So then, realistic candidates to replace him?

Hughton, Hughes, Karanka, Keane (sorry DE but he'd crack a few heads), Ainsworth, Robins, McCarthy, Monk and even Strachan.

Mowbray's time is up, we need a change. And soon.

[Mercer]

Just 6 points from our last 8 league games.

5 games to go and I can't see us taking more than 4 points (Reading & Luton) from those games - think there's a risk we'll lose the lot.

So that would be anything in the range of 6 to 10 points from our closing 13 games.  A shocking statistic underlining we aren't progressing and the need for managerial change. 

[Mercer]

Just now, LDRover said:

So then, realistic candidates to replace him?

Hughton, Hughes, Karanka, Keane (sorry DE but he'd crack a few heads), Ainsworth, Robins, McCarthy, Monk and even Strachan.

Mowbray's time is up, we need a change. And soon.

I'd go for Keane with a clever coach to back him up.

Keane looks and is absolutely menacing and, IMO, our 'holiday club' would sh1t themselves!

[PeteJD13]

Just now, LDRover said:

So then, realistic candidates to replace him?

Hughton, Hughes, Karanka, Keane (sorry DE but he'd crack a few heads), Ainsworth, Robins, McCarthy, Monk and even Strachan.

Mowbray's time is up, we need a change. And soon.

Strachan ?? Monk isn't he being sued by Birmingham and he left boro under a cloud due to agent issues, Keane when was the last decent job he did. McCarthy didn't pull up any trees at ipswich they stagnated and he left. Robins is an excellent manager would be a great choice out of the rest, Hughes would it work second time without Bowen? Hughton wouldn't come here and i'm not convinced on Karanka. It's immaterial at TM won't be losing his job anytime soon

[PeteJD13]

12 minutes ago, Mercer said:

I'd go for Keane with a clever coach to back him up.

Keane looks and is absolutely menacing and, IMO, our 'holiday club' would sh1t themselves!

Apart from sunderland for a limited time what's he actually done. Yeah he gets angry and shouts that will wear off really quickly there is a reason he's been out of work for ages. I still think with our more workman squad someone like Rowett would do an excellent job

Edited July 4, 2020 by PeteJD13

[LDRover]

Just now, PeteJD13 said:

Strachan ?? Monk isn't he being sued by Birmingham and he left boro under a cloud due to agent issues, Keane when was the last decent job he did. McCarthy didn't pull up any trees at ipswich they stagnated and he left. Robins is an excellent manager would be a great choice out of the rest, Hughes would it work second time without Bowen? Hughton wouldn't come here and i'm not convinced on Karanka. It's immaterial at TM won't be losing his job anytime soon

All valid points Pete but I'll bet you had more questions over Mowbray when he was appointed.