Tony Mowbray Discussion

[OldEwoodBlue]

waiting for this year's version of....

"defenders are coming"

 

Oh that's OK then, we should give him until 10 games, I mean Christmas, no no Spring.....

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, JHRover said:

Again, so if it is correct that 1 or 2 of our prized assets will need to be sold this summer then I'm afraid that is another black mark against those running the show. If they have allowed such an imbalance to develop that we are forced to sell our family silver just 2 seasons after promotion then something has gone wrong. 

It is very difficult for me to accept that we may need to sell quality like Travis, Dack or Armstrong to make up for Mowbray's horrendous failings with Brereton and Gallagher, and that to put icing on the cake he will be given another summer window to cause further damage to the squad with flawed recruitment. 

The way it works normally is the manager pays for such terrible business with his job, then the next bloke is backed as much as possible. But we all know here from experience that their mate in the dugout will be as safe as houses

I have mention that the club hasn't had the right structure in terms of scouting, recruitment, data analysis for seasons going back to Bowyer time the club. This is problem the club has had for years and the clubs and people they have employed at the boardroom level should have put in place. 

We need have now investing in a proper scouting structure with money, time and employing people so we need to see this come forward this summer with signings from Europe as well as the UK

[Mashed Potatoes]

12 minutes ago, rigger said:

I hope I am proved wrong but I don’t think TM is going anywhere. If that is so, my simple solution (for me), I will stop going until there is a change. I cannot alter The Rovers, but I can alter their effect on me.

Surely you go to support the club.

[rigger]

Just now, Mashed Potatoes said:

Surely you go to support the club.

No, I will not pay for something I don’t want. The club at the moment is Tony Mowbray. I don’t want that.

[Dolly blue]

10 minutes ago, rigger said:

I hope I am proved wrong but I don’t think TM is going anywhere. If that is so, my simple solution (for me), I will stop going until there is a change. I cannot alter The Rovers, but I can alter their effect on me.

That’s exactly how I feel .....yet another Sunday of hopelessness with this man at the helm .....soooooo much to look to !!

On other pages there is much written about who to bring in ( players ) ...whilst this man and his crew of merry men remain you could have a front two of Jesus Christ and Alan Shearer ....( played wide, of course) and nothing would change .

Forget what’s coming .....all irrelevant ?

[Mashed Potatoes]

Just now, rigger said:

No, I will not pay for something I don’t want. The club at the moment is Tony Mowbray. I don’t want that.

The club is more thn one person.

[rigger]

Just now, Mashed Potatoes said:

The club is more thn one person.

At this moment in time, no it isn’t 

[Stuart]

1 hour ago, Waggy76 said:

How can we play with a false number 9, with Armstrong's,Graham , Samuel , Brereton and Gallagher all on the books ....it beggars belief..

I honestly think the players will be even more delighted than fans when Mowbray goes.

He has taken nearly every player backwards, although they may be looked after off the field, on it they are being asked to play in roles that are alien and don’t get the best out of them.

He could almost claim Travis but he is likely to have to leave to avoid the malaise and he cuts a frustrated figure. Nyambe and Armstrong the two main ones who have stood out.

A club without money to spend (which seemingly we are - despite wealthy owners and the sanctioning of £14m in transfer fees over the last two Summers - needs to get the most out of the players it has. Start by playing strikers as strikers and midfielders not at full back.

[Kie_BRFC]

9 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Surely you go to support the club.

What’s your excuse for not going pre lockdown? 

[Mashed Potatoes]

2 minutes ago, Kie_BRFC said:

What’s your excuse for not going pre lockdown? 

Live down south.

[Stuart]

Poll now up

 

[Kie_BRFC]

5 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Live down south.

Surely you go to support the club

[tomphil]

TM has this new possession based style in mind but he's forcing it on players who are neither good enough nor confident enough to apply it effectively.  That's why we get caught out dawdling or asleep time and again it just doesn't suit what he has and what he's signed. No manager in their right mind would sign the likes of 6'4" Gallagher to play wide right forward in this system. You need a right sided Armstrong to balance it out and either a competent target man to spearhead it or a competent shoe in for Dack when you play that way.

I think one of the reasons behind the Tosin signing was because he wanted a ball playing center half as back up. Yet it was negated from the off by letting go the keeper best suited to playing it out from the back so straight away it's being muddled up again.

I don't think it's wide of the mark to say some of the best bits of football since Kean relegated us have come under Mowbray. In terms of swift countering and passing and pressing yet he completely shies away from it as our main style. Prefering a regular mix and match set up to accommodate his players and a dull insipid core style. Some of the most frustrating unbalanced stuff in the last 8 years has also being regularly foisted upon us and the team also.

It's absolutely infuriating to get themselves in such a good position only to follow it up with the manner of tactics and performances we've seen over the last 3 games. To not just have a go at it when there is absolutely nothing to lose really doesn't send out a good message.

[K-Hod]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

sounds like Mowbray is going to shake the squad this transfer window in order to get that top 6 next season

Shame he didn’t think about that before he waxed £12 Million on two strikers that don’t score and plays one of them out wide. 
While leaving wide players on the bench.

Then, he has the brass neck to crack on about FFP!

[Mashed Potatoes]

27 minutes ago, Kie_BRFC said:

Surely you go to support the club

Down south -yes

[Sparks Rover]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

sounds like Mowbray is going to shake the squad this transfer window in order to get that top 6 next season

Classic Chaddy.....you never change lad. Why do this to yourself...?

[Ewood Ace]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

sounds like Mowbray is going to shake the squad this transfer window in order to get that top 6 next season

We heard all the same platitudes from him last year. As we have seen very often with Mowbray words are not backed up by action.

 

On the topic of who to replace Mowbray with of out of work managers there is Chris Hughton, Mark Hughes, Mick McCarthy, Martin O'Neill, Roy Keane, Alan Pardew and Tony Pulis. Of in work managers who I think would be attainable there's Slavisa Jokanovic, Gary Rowett, Lee Bowyer and Gareth Ainsworth.

[Angry_Pirate]

Eddie Howe? ?

[tomphil]

43 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Live down south.

I'd have thought you lived in Tony's basement.

Mind you i suppose your head office is down south ?

[Mashed Potatoes]

6 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

We heard all the same platitudes from him last year. As we have seen very often with Mowbray words are not backed up by action.

 

On the topic of who to replace Mowbray with of out of work managers there is Chris Hughton, Mark Hughes, Mick McCarthy, Martin O'Neill, Roy Keane, Alan Pardew and Tony Pulis. Of in work managers who I think would be attainable there's Slavisa Jokanovic, Gary Rowett, Lee Bowyer and Gareth Ainsworth.

No hope for those - Phil Brown fits the bill.

[dallydally]

5 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

We heard all the same platitudes from him last year. As we have seen very often with Mowbray words are not backed up by action.

 

On the topic of who to replace Mowbray with of out of work managers there is Chris Hughton, Mark Hughes, Mick McCarthy, Martin O'Neill, Roy Keane, Alan Pardew and Tony Pulis. Of in work managers who I think would be attainable there's Slavisa Jokanovic, Gary Rowett, Lee Bowyer and Gareth Ainsworth.

Of the above Ainsworth is the only one who'd consider it. Wouldn't want Pulis, Pardew, Keane, O'Neill, McCarthy, Bowyer or Hughes. Chris Hughton is the outstanding candidate and McCarthy is a no nonsense guy who would remove the cross. We can dream but reality says TM will be here next season

[dallydally]

Sorry - remove the dross!

[Tugayisgod]

Ryan Lowe at Plymouth. Up and coming young manager, already had promotions with Bury and Plymouth on a shoestring. 

Other than that why not give Jonty a go? Obviously highly rated at club and Country. Did a great job with u 23s

Edited July 5, 2020 by Tugayisgod

[JHRover]

1 minute ago, Tugayisgod said:

Ryan Lowe at Plymouth. Up and coming young manager, already had promotions with Bury and Plymouth on a shoestring. 

Bury and Plymouth both had big budgets by League Two standards though admittedly both have had issues and yes he's done very well in getting them both up in his first season.

Think he needs to prove himself at League One before moving up to the Championship 

[chaddyrovers]

9 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

On the topic of who to replace Mowbray with of out of work managers there is Chris Hughton, Mark Hughes, Mick McCarthy, Martin O'Neill, Roy Keane, Alan Pardew and Tony Pulis. Of in work managers who I think would be attainable there's Slavisa Jokanovic, Gary Rowett, Lee Bowyer and Gareth Ainsworth.

Most of those managers are out of work for a reason. 

Roy Keane. Not been a manager for 9 years. Yes 9 years. 

Hughes. Not been a manager for 18 months and never been in a job without Bowen. Can he do it without him? Well we see if you ever gets a job. 

Why would Jokanovic leave his club in Qatar where he earning millions in wages for Club in East Lancashire where his wages would be much lower? 

Rowett leaving Millwall for us? ?