Tony Mowbray Discussion

[Mattyblue]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

 

Rowett leaving Millwall for us? ?

 

No longer able to tempt a manager from fecking Millwall?

Nicely sums up the wrecking ball these owners have put to this club this past decade.

[Vinjay]

1 hour ago, Kie_BRFC said:

Surely you go to support the club

...and sheep expect to be shepherded. Sometimes the only way of showing support is to voice disapproval over the direction things are taking. That's what I did (largely because of the man who's support transformed the club but it's coming up to 20 years and I've had just about enough of posting here) but you run the risk of becoming broken beyond repair. Like me though that would be an extreme case. For those who want Mowbray gone there's plenty of people who share your view. If most of the fans share your views or stick to certain principles (Rovers fans shift their views at a whim and lack principle) then I think it's worth supporting. Then again most of the fans wanted Kean gone and still got hounded by thick scum who drove them away.

Edited July 5, 2020 by Vinjay

[Ewood Ace]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Why would Jokanovic leave his club in Qatar where he earning millions in wages for Club in East Lancashire where his wages would be much lower? 

Rowett leaving Millwall for us? ?

 

Jokanovic has previously spoken of his desire to work in English football again.

You seriously don't think that Blackburn Rovers could attract the Millwall manager? Why do you always have put this great football club down?

[Vinjay]

11 minutes ago, OnePhilT said:

Hell would freeze over before anybody took advice from you on how to support a football club, Vinjay!

More fool them. To use an apt analogy if you're growing a field of red roses and some of them are diseased what do you do? You prune them. That would sum up those who attacked others for abusing Kean. You could say it sums up the ones who defended the Walker family.

Edited July 5, 2020 by Vinjay

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

Jokanovic has previously spoken of his desire to work in English football again.

You seriously don't think that Blackburn Rovers could attract the Millwall manager? Why do you always have put this great football club down?

I dont see Rowett walking out Millwall sadly. He walked out on Derby for Stoke and I'm sure he regrets it so I'm unsure he will do it again

Yes I like Rowett. Did an excellent job at Birmingham and doing a good job at Millwall. 

Did Jokanovic speak off this desire recently? 

Edited July 5, 2020 by chaddyrovers

[Ewood Ace]

11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Most of those managers are out of work for a reason. 

Roy Keane. Not been a manager for 9 years. Yes 9 years. 

Hughes. Not been a manager for 18 months and never been in a job without Bowen. Can he do it without him? Well we see if you ever gets a job. 

Yet you have said that your choice for manager when Mowbray goes would be Damien Johnson who has never managed a club in his career. Yes that's right never. 

Also I'm not looking for a job but if Mr Waggott is reading this then I would consider an inteview.

Edited July 5, 2020 by Ewood Ace

[Ewood Ace]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Did Jokanovic speak off this desire recently? 

In May of this year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8370705/Slavisa-Jokanovic-reveals-difficulty-banned-three-major-tournaments.html

[Gav]

37 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

On the topic of who to replace Mowbray with of out of work managers there is Chris Hughton, Mark Hughes, Mick McCarthy, Martin O'Neill, Roy Keane, Alan Pardew and Tony Pulis. Of in work managers who I think would be attainable there's Slavisa Jokanovic, Gary Rowett, Lee Bowyer and Gareth Ainsworth.

Jesus it really is a race to the bottom looking at that dross.

Hughes would never be tempted back, but he’s the only 1 out of that list I’d replace Mowbray with.

@DarrenRover Said yesterday about an up and coming managed from Rennes, few of my mates want to see a hungry young manger, I’d not be against that, but the clubs not in a position to make such an appointment. 

I doubt Waggot/Cheston and Venkys between then could find Rennes on a map, let alone know who the manager is, we don’t have that kind of knowledge at the club currently. 

Stick with Mowbray for me, unless they can pull a rabbit out of the hat.

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, Ewood Ace said:

In May of this year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8370705/Slavisa-Jokanovic-reveals-difficulty-banned-three-major-tournaments.html

Yes would like return to English football but do you really think he would walk on multi millions contract in Qatar for a club in east Lancashire? 

[Ewood Ace]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yes would like return to English football but do you really think he would walk on multi millions contract in Qatar for a club in east Lancashire? 

Again you do our great club down why do you keep doing this? 

 

[Vinjay]

Just now, Ewood Ace said:

Again you do our great club down why do you keep doing this? 

 

You do know what site you're on right?

[chaddyrovers]

6 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

Yet you have said that your choice for manager when Mowbray goes would be Damien Johnson who has never managed a club in his career. Yes that's right never. 

Yes a highly rated coach who is now working in his country coaching set up and highly rated at Rovers

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, Ewood Ace said:

Again you do our great club down why do you keep doing this? 

 

You are kidding yourself if you honestly think Jokanovic is going to walk out on multi Million pounds contract for a club in East Lancashire. How much do you think Venkys pay Mowbray per season? I bet around 600k plus bonuses 

Yes the club is great to us but Jokanovic could have come here after Bowyer was sacked and he didnt then. 

 

[Ewood Ace]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Yes a highly rated coach who is now working in his country coaching set up and highly rated at Rovers

Brian Kidd was also highly rated coach working at the most successful club in the country. More often than not good coaches don't make good managers

[Vinjay]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

You are kidding yourself if you honestly think Jokanovic is going to walk out on multi Million pounds contract for a club in East Lancashire. How much do you think Venkys pay Mowbray per season? I bet around 600k plus bonuses 

Yes the club is great to us but Jokanovic could have come here after Bowyer was sacked and he didnt then. 

 

Lancashire. I bet Leeds fans don't refer to themselves as "a club in West Yorkshire". 

[Mattyblue]

‘Club in East Lancashire’ your new phrase?

What’s the location of Ewood Park got to do with anything? He’d have a nice pad in Cheshire or Manchester with the rest of north west football, not going to live in a flat above John’s Cut Price at Mill Hill, is he?

Edited July 5, 2020 by Mattyblue

[Ewood Ace]

11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You are kidding yourself if you honestly think Jokanovic is going to walk out on multi Million pounds contract for a club in East Lancashire. How much do you think Venkys pay Mowbray per season? I bet around 600k plus bonuses 

Yes the club is great to us but Jokanovic could have come here after Bowyer was sacked and he didnt then. 

If Jokanovic wants to manage in England again then he is going to need to get back managing over here soon or he will be forgotten about particularly as he is manging in Mickey Mouse football.

If we were to approach Jokanovic we'd have to make him an attractive offer. Give him a wage that a manager of his calibre would warrant and back in the market him like we have done with Mowbray. Also if Jokanovic is a competitor then I am sure he'd much rather manage in a league like the Championship than some Mickey Mouse league where average attendance the last time they were published was 672.

Also I don't expect him to live in a tent on Nuttall Street he can buy himself a nice house in Cheshire with the money he has made in Qatar.

Honestly you are coming across as more of a Tony Mowbray fan than a Rovers fan. Constantly doing the club down and making out as though we should be thankful to have Mowbray here as how could a 'club in East Lancashire' possibly attract any better. 

Edited July 5, 2020 by Ewood Ace

[davulsukur]

2 hours ago, Vinjay said:

Every single one of you should copy/paste this (perhaps without the bit about Venkys as people at the club can't do anything about them besides encourage) and send it to the club perhaps via Lynsey Talbot. Then post a screenshot (black out name if you want) to prove it. That's what you should all be doing but you won't.

Of course we won't because we don't all share your idea of how Rovers should be run.

[Mercer]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I posted the reasons last week Mercer to yourself and others

Would you had wanted that poll after Bristol City win? 

Absolutely.  Beating Bristol City was no great feat.  Johnson had already lost the plot there before turning up at Ewood and PRE lock down, they'd scraped 2 points out of 15.  It would have been hugely disappointing not to have beaten them.

I will ask you again.  What does Mowbray need to do, or not to do, to get sacked?

[Mercer]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I have mention that the club hasn't had the right structure in terms of scouting, recruitment, data analysis for seasons going back to Bowyer time the club. This is problem the club has had for years and the clubs and people they have employed at the boardroom level should have put in place. 

We need have now investing in a proper scouting structure with money, time and employing people so we need to see this come forward this summer with signings from Europe as well as the UK

No excuse for Mowbray's player trading.

IMO, his judgement is awful.  Evidence, £20million+ (including wages) spunked up the wall on Brereton and Gallagher for starters.  Add to that the sale of Raya only to be replaced by Walton.  IMO, Raya was p1ssed off with Mowbray singling him out and also the coaching he was getting from the community trust lad from Carlisle.

Edited July 5, 2020 by Mercer

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

Honestly you are coming across as more of a Tony Mowbray fan than a Rovers fan. Constantly doing the club down and making out as though we should be thankful to have Mowbray here as how could a 'club in East Lancashire' possibly attract any better. 

What a ridiculously comment to make more of Mowbray fan than a Rovers fan. 

No, I am being realistic. We are a town club in East Lancashire. You mention someone like Lee Bowyer or Gareth Ainsworth both would be realistic names IMO. Someone mention Mark Robins yesterday. 

5 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

If Jokanovic wants to manage in England again then he is going to need to get back managing over here soon or he will be forgotten about particularly as he is manging in Mickey Mouse football.

If we were to approach Jokanovic we'd have to make him an attractive offer. Give him a wage that a manager of his calibre would warrant and back in the market him like we have done with Mowbray. Also if Jokanovic is a competitor then I am sure he'd much rather manage in a league like the Championship than some Mickey Mouse league where average attendance the last time they were published was 672.

When Rovers approach him after Bowyer was sacked he was managing in Israel and he didn't come then. 

[chaddyrovers]

13 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Absolutely.  Beating Bristol City was no great feat.  Johnson had already lost the plot there before turning up at Ewood and PRE lock down, they'd scraped 2 points out of 15.  It would have been hugely disappointing not to have beaten them.

I will ask you again.  What does Mowbray need to do, or not to do, to get sacked?

There is a surprise. 

I told the reasons last week Mercer. 

https://www.brfcs.com/mb/index.php?/forums/topic/34120-tony-mowbray-discussion/&do=findComment&comment=2073433

8 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Add to that the sale of Raya only to be replaced by Walton.  

Raya wanted out last summer. We know that Mowbray failed with his 1st 2 choices to replace him. 

Edited July 5, 2020 by chaddyrovers

[Ewood Ace]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

What a ridiculously comment to make more of Mowbray fan than a Rovers fan. 

That is how you are coming across by belittling our club and doing us down by calling us 'a town club in East Lancashire'.

 

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

When Rovers approach him after Bowyer was sacked he was managing in Israel and he didn't come then. 

A long time ago and circumstances change, his stock was a lot higher in this country then (as was shown by the fact he got the Fulham job). Also we were selling our best players at the time and were under an embargo whilst he was managing in the Champions League. Also we don't really know with any certainty that he was approached for the.

 

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Raya wanted out last summer. We know that Mowbray failed with his 1st 2 choices to replace him. 

The same Tony Mowbray who talks about how difficult it is to sign players because other sides want replacements signed before they will let players go. Yet he did completely the opposite and let his keeper go before a replacement was brought in. Leaving us scrambling around and in the end bringing in a panic signing on loan who is no way near the required standard. Just another in along line of examples of Mowbray's incompetence in the transfer market. It beggars belief that some people want to give him another window to do even more damage.

[Mercer]

16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

There is a surprise. 

I told the reasons last week Mercer. not repeating myself. Look it up Mercer. 

Raya wanted out last summer. We know that Mowbray failed with his 1st 2 choices to replace him. 

and ask yourself why?

I think he had very little respect for Benson and, IMO, no wonder why.  Benson as far as I'm aware, has never played the game at even a non league level (though I stand to be corrected) and started off as a lad in Carlisle's Community set-up.  I've seen Benson at Brockhall and also his match day routines and I am totally unimpressed.  I remember one match last season when Benson came out some three minutes or so before the players were due back out after half time, presumably to give Raya a work out.  Raya rocked up with the rest of the Rovers' players and there was only time for Benson to throw just one ball at him.  I mentioned the incident on here.  To me, that showed a distinct last of respect for Benson.  Raya has stated one of the reasons for going to Brentford was to work with the goalkeeper coach there - it says it all, IMO.

Just think if Rovers did sign Joe Hart - a goalie with a drawer full of medals and caps and the kid from Carlisle rocks up, 'hi Joe, I'm going to make you a better goalie'.  It's laughable. 

Edited July 5, 2020 by Mercer

[K-Hod]

23 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

What a ridiculously comment to make more of Mowbray fan than a Rovers fan. 

No, I am being realistic. We are a town club in East Lancashire. You mention someone like Lee Bowyer or Gareth Ainsworth both would be realistic names IMO. Someone mention Mark Robins yesterday. 

When Rovers approach him after Bowyer was sacked he was managing in Israel and he didn't come then. 

Where are we based again?