Tony Mowbray Discussion

[JHRover]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Why would Jokanovic leave his club in Qatar where he earning millions in wages for Club in East Lancashire where his wages would be much lower? 

Rowett leaving Millwall for us? ?

 

Its called ambition. Aim high, not low. Convince yourself that decent managers aren't attainable and you don't get them.

Make those People good offers and leave them with a decision to make.

I assume Venkys are richer than Berylson at Millwall? 

Does Jokanovic want to manage in the Premier League again against elite managers and players or waste the best days of his career in the Qatar micky mouse league?

 

[47er]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Hughes. Not been a manager for 18 months and never been in a job without Bowen. Can he do it without him? Well we see if you ever gets a job. 

So you'd reject Hughes and keep Mowbray? Effing barmy!

Academic anyway, they would never pay him what he's worth or give him the freedom he'd require.

As for Hughes he would never agree to their terms.

[chaddyrovers]

8 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Where are we based again?

https://eastlancsccg.nhs.uk/patient-information/local-services/primary-care-networks

Blackburn comes under East Lancs within the NHS. 

[Kie_BRFC]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

https://eastlancsccg.nhs.uk/patient-information/local-services/primary-care-networks

Blackburn comes under East Lancs within the NHS. 

What about Ewood Park? Is that east Lancashire too?

[chaddyrovers]

7 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Its called ambition. Aim high, not low. Convince yourself that decent managers aren't attainable and you don't get them.

Make those People good offers and leave them with a decision to make.

I assume Venkys are richer than Berylson at Millwall? 

Does Jokanovic want to manage in the Premier League again against elite managers and players or waste the best days of his career in the Qatar micky mouse league?

 

How much money do you honestly think we pay manager as a club under the current owners? 

Not how much we should but how much they do!

[Mattyblue]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

https://eastlancsccg.nhs.uk/patient-information/local-services/primary-care-networks

Blackburn comes under East Lancs within the NHS. 

But what if he Jokanovic uses Bupa, can he come then?

[chaddyrovers]

21 minutes ago, Mercer said:

and ask yourself why?

I think he had very little respect for Benson and, IMO, no wonder why.  Benson as far as I'm aware, has never played the game at even a non league level (though I stand to be corrected) and started off as a lad in Carlisle's Community set-up.  I've seen Benson at Brockhall and also his match day routines and I am totally unimpressed.  I remember one match last season when Benson came out some three minutes or so before the players were due back out after half time, presumably to give Raya a work out.  Raya rocked up with the rest of the Rovers' players and there was only time for Benson to throw just one ball at him.  I mentioned the incident on here.  To me, that showed a distinct last of respect for Benson.  Raya has stated one of the reasons for going to Brentford was to work with the goalkeeper coach there - it says it all, IMO.

Just think if Rovers did sign Joe Hart - a goalie with a drawer full of medals and caps and the kid from Carlisle rocks up, 'hi Joe, I'm going to make you a better goalie'.  It's laughable. 

The Brentford goalkeeper keeper who isnt there now. He left before Christmas. Raya still makes mistakes even now. 

[Ossydave]

2 hours ago, OnePhilT said:

I cannot help but feel that we are going to be worse-off if Mowbray gets the boot... That isn't a defence of Mowbray, either.

Thats my biggest fear too, and perhaps the reason I've tolerated him longer than some.

We're still an attractive job for a good manager, I just have little faith in whoever would be in charge of recruitment.

[Ewood Ace]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

The Brentford goalkeeper keeper who isnt there now. He left before Christmas. Raya still makes mistakes even now. 

Walton makes mistakes every game.

[JHRover]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

How much money do you honestly think we pay manager as a club under the current owners? 

Not how much we should but how much they do!

There's the difference. You don't think we can, I do think we can. 

Perhaps the owners need to learn that the more you pay the better you get. You'd think after the Warnock fiasco that penny would have dropped by now.

[Mercer]

10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

The Brentford goalkeeper keeper who isnt there now. He left before Christmas. Raya still makes mistakes even now. 

Well he was there when Raya joined!

Even the best goalies in the world make mistakes as Alisson has shown with Liverpool.

Brentford have conceded fewer goals than any other team in the Championship - I suspect Raya is doing pretty well for them!!!

[chaddyrovers]

43 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

That is how you are coming across by belittling our club and doing us down by calling us 'a town club in East Lancashire'.

 

A long time ago and circumstances change, his stock was a lot higher in this country then (as was shown by the fact he got the Fulham job). Also we were selling our best players at the time and were under an embargo whilst he was managing in the Champions League. Also we don't really know with any certainty that he was approached for the.

 

 

 

Blackburn Rovers is town football club. That's is reality and realistic. In the 30 years of supporting Rovers we have had some great times and that's mainly down to 1 man Mr Jack Walker. 

Jokanovic was linked with the Rovers after Bowyet sacking and we heald talks with us according to these links. 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/football/729176/gary-bowyer-sacked-by-blackburn-rovers/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/blackburn-want-former-watford-boss-6807462

Edited July 5, 2020 by chaddyrovers

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

There's the difference. You don't think we can, I do think we can. 

Perhaps the owners need to learn that the more you pay the better you get. You'd think after the Warnock fiasco that penny would have dropped by now.

Question was How much money do you honestly think we pay manager as a club under the current owners? 

 

[Ewood Ace]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Jokanovic was linked with the Rovers after Bowyet sacking and we heald talks with us according to these links. 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/football/729176/gary-bowyer-sacked-by-blackburn-rovers/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/blackburn-want-former-watford-boss-6807462

Being linked is rather different to being approached as you stated earlier. I'd have though you'd have worked that out by now.

[Mercer]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Question was How much money do you honestly think we pay manager as a club under the current owners? 

 

Well for a start, I'd slash Waggott's reported £300k to £100k and throw that into the pot.  If Waggott's not happy with that then good luck finding another job and I think he'd need it!  Better still, just get rid of him!!!

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, Ewood Ace said:

Being linked is rather different to being approached as you stated earlier. I'd have though you'd have worked that out by now.

You cant say he wasnt approach either then. 

It was reported at the time we were looking at 4 managers which were Lambert, Jokanovic, Holloway and Pearson..

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, Mercer said:

Well for a start, I'd slash Waggott's reported £300k to £100k and throw that into the pot.  If Waggott's not happy with that then good luck finding another job and I think he'd need it!  Better still, just get rid of him!!!

Wasnt the question tho was it? ?

[Ewood Ace]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Question was How much money do you honestly think we pay manager as a club under the current owners? 

It's all about priorities isn't it. I'd argue that giving a very good manager say £2 Million a year on a 3 year deal would have benefitted the club more than spending £5 Million plus wages over 4 years on Sam Gallagher.

Edited July 5, 2020 by Ewood Ace

[Mattyblue]

8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Blackburn Rovers is town football club. That's is reality and realistic. In the 30 years of supporting Rovers we have had some great times and that's mainly down to 1 man Mr Jack Walker. 

 

Still don’t get your point? He’s largely managed clubs the size of Watford and Fulham, or in third rate leagues abroad, not exactly Klopp, is he?

Edited July 5, 2020 by Mattyblue

[Ewood Ace]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You cant say he wasnt approach either then. 

Well if that the case why don't we say that Guardiola, Klopp and Alex Ferguson were approached because to use your logic you can't say they weren't. Dearie me even by your standards that is a poor response.

Edited July 5, 2020 by Ewood Ace

[Mercer]

12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Wasnt the question tho was it? ?

The most important employee of any football club is the manager.

He makes or breaks a club.

Burnley as a club have been transformed by the money earned in the PL and their success there is all down to Dyche.

A football a manger is therefore worthy of his hire.  Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

[RoverDom]

17 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You cant say he wasnt approach either then. 

It was reported at the time we were looking at 4 managers which were Lambert, Jokanovic, Holloway and Pearson..

Holloway, he's nutty enough for the venkys to like.

[JHRover]

50 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Blackburn Rovers is town football club. That's is reality and realistic. 

I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

Yes Blackburn is a town. What relevance is that to the aims, ambitions and prospects of Blackburn Rovers?

Would the granting of city status suddenly transform our club and improve its prospects? 

Were Sunderland and Wolves small clubs and then suddenly became big clubs when they got City status? Are Preston in a higher category to us now? Are Leyton Orient or Salford bigger than us because they are based in big cities rather than a town?

Its all meaningless. Suits those upstairs at Ewood Park to feed it to the fans though.

[Vinjay]

30 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

Yes Blackburn is a town. What relevance is that to the aims, ambitions and prospects of Blackburn Rovers?

Would the granting of city status suddenly transform our club and improve its prospects? 

Were Sunderland and Wolves small clubs and then suddenly became big clubs when they got City status? Are Preston in a higher category to us now? Are Leyton Orient or Salford bigger than us because they are based in big cities rather than a town?

Its all meaningless. Suits those upstairs at Ewood Park to feed it to the fans though.

Stop mentioning that! Small town JH! SMALL TOWN!

[roversfan99]

6 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

sounds like Mowbray is going to shake the squad this transfer window in order to get that top 6 next season

 

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

as he said last week he has different budget transfer lists for different budgets. I would imagine he is talking to the owners weekly anyway. He could miss could Reading game and fly over to India to meet the owners if that's that what they want. Better way is to use Video Communicating at Ewood Park to the owners and set a budget for the season. 

Let the out of contract players leave after this month apart from possible Downing who has good overall apart from the last 3 games as I said in the summer transfer window thread. Plus other players available for transfers but its look like we will need one of 2 players to sold. Hopefully FFP rules will be relax as UEFA have done. You have your problems with FFP rules but they are there cos clubs wanted them in place. 

 

 

Why do you think we are about to shake the squad up? With what money? And how can you trust the man that has left us needing so much work doing on an imbalanced squad considering the poor business done since promotion?

And why do you think we are a normal club? With owners interested enough to be in regular communication and making plans regarding budgets etc. Or being logical enough to not make the manager wait to fly over to India and use a video call instead?