Tony Mowbray Discussion

[tomphil]

Probably Evans on just to try and stifle it a bit more and not concede another.

Always still in it just the one behind and losing 4-2 puts a bad slant on it 

Typical stuff we've seen time and again from him.

[Mr. E]

TM's post match comments continue to be astonishing, it's like there's no fans, players, club anything that exists except the picture in his mind of sitting on a table talking to the Venkys. Or the phone version of that. Everything that TM ever says is aimed at producing a nice little ring in their ears, logic and reality be damned. 

[SBlue]

3 minutes ago, Mr. E said:

TM's post match comments continue to be astonishing, it's like there's no fans, players, club anything that exists except the picture in his mind of sitting on a table talking to the Venkys. Or the phone version of that. Everything that TM ever says is aimed at producing a nice little ring in their ears, logic and reality be damned. 

Didnt glean anything like that from the interview that I saw.

 

Care to elaborate?

[Sparks Rover]

2 hours ago, S8 & Blue said:

Have to say that the substitutions to introduce Rothwell and Dolan was really great game management.

Set us up really well too - game plan of pressuring Bournemouth’s shite play out from the back, which lead to BB and JRC being knackered.

Is that you Tony.?  Anyone reading this would have deduced a win.

Defenders are coming!

[yellowsubmarine]

4 hours ago, Mr. E said:

TM's post match comments continue to be astonishing, it's like there's no fans, players, club anything that exists except the picture in his mind of sitting on a table talking to the Venkys. Or the phone version of that. Everything that TM ever says is aimed at producing a nice little ring in their ears, logic and reality be damned. 

I stopped reading half way through. His comments are just too familar and feels like they are on loop since he has been here.

[MarkBRFC]

With Mowbray as manager I think we'll always concede goals, no matter who we bring in at CB and LB.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

29 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

With Mowbray as manager I think we'll always concede goals, no matter who we bring in at CB and LB.

I think that's becoming the realisation.

But, I think we'd still concede less with better players in those positions.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8148515/Tony-Mowbrays-Celtic-lacking-street-smarts-10-years-4-0-loss-St-Mirren.html

Interesting Mowbray article touching on expensive non-scoring forwards, and a defensively suspect and naïve team...and it's not about Rovers. 

 

Edited September 13, 2020 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama

[matt83]

Burton vs rovers 24th February 2017. Mowbray’s first game. Williams, lenihan, mulgrew and nyambe started. The rest of the side is a lot better but in terms of the defence there is pretty much zero progression in 3 years.

[Waggy76]

 Unless we stop the goals against , another relegation is looming !!

[Ewood Ace]

3 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8148515/Tony-Mowbrays-Celtic-lacking-street-smarts-10-years-4-0-loss-St-Mirren.html

Sounds like the only thing that has changed in 10 years is that he has become even more deluded.

[tomphil]

3 hours ago, matt83 said:

Burton vs rovers 24th February 2017. Mowbray’s first game. Williams, lenihan, mulgrew and nyambe started. The rest of the side is a lot better but in terms of the defence there is pretty much zero progression in 3 years.

Says everything really and you could argue Mulgrew would still be in there had they not fallen out.

Dire way to be so called building a team allegedly to try for promotion at some point when they have form for leaking so many goals. Mowbray has his good points but even his chief tub thumpers can't defend this it's a piss take. 

Good guy, weak manager.

[Mr. E]

13 hours ago, S8 & Blue said:

Didnt glean anything like that from the interview that I saw.

 

Care to elaborate?

He made no mention at all of our deep defensive frailties that led to the goals and the failures in the transfer market to strengthen or even to cover the positions where players have left, like Tosin. And he talks this fantasy nonsense about how "if we play like this for the rest of the season we'll be in the top six" - as if everything is fine, just some bad luck yesterday.

He has failed to build a defence and cannot get the job done on the transfer market, and that is what cost us yesterday and will cost of for the rest of the season unless we get several quality defenders in very soon.

[A Northern Horde...]

4 hours ago, Waggy76 said:

 Unless we stop the goals against , another relegation is looming !!

Wouldn't go as far as relegation waggles but simply more of the mid table guff.

[simongarnerisgod]

tony really should have captured patrick bauer last season,no nonsense defender who heads footballs all afternoon and is a leader,instead he messes around and bauer ends up at pne ffs,apart from the harrison reed treatment this is mowbrays biggest **** up imo

[Leonard Venkhater]

4 hours ago, Waggy76 said:

 Unless we stop the goals against , another relegation is looming !!

It is so bloody basic, isn't it.

Last season, there were six away games, where we scored two and still lost.

From memory, we conceded 63 goals last season and 69 the season before. Too many. FFS,Tony.....SORT IT OUT!

[unleaded]

This Word Wide network just wont work with this dinosaur of a manager ... it’s a waste of resources ... 

He will go by his list of contacts .. Noticed he comes out with a cup of coffee and once sat on his seat hardly gets up .... getting worse by each match .... just His whole body language comes across as am tired .... 

[yellowsubmarine]

1 hour ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

From memory, we conceded 63 goals last season and 69 the season before. Too many. FFS,Tony.....SORT IT OUT!

And we already conceded 3 in our first game.

[tomphil]

1 hour ago, unleaded said:

This Word Wide network just wont work with this dinosaur of a manager ... it’s a waste of resources ... 

He will go by his list of contacts .. Noticed he comes out with a cup of coffee and once sat on his seat hardly gets up .... getting worse by each match .... just His whole body language comes across as am tired .... 

It's likely to take time to bare fruit and its looked like the keeper has come via that so it's up and running at least. 

However i totally agree him and the club will go via their usual advisors and supply lines first every time. This is a guy who makes excuses up for a seasoned pro having to travel from Derby. A young player who's relocating from Southampton ( after playing and living in different places anyway) and moaning himself because he's 2 hrs from home during the week !

What's he going to be like when we start plucking guys from various corners of Europe ? 

Edited September 13, 2020 by tomphil

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

On ‎12‎/‎09‎/‎2020 at 14:03, Darwen Rover 007 said:

So just got home but heard Gareth Ainsworth on radio 5 live a short while ago... got to admit his words were very motivational, almost inspiring... 

Would take him in a heartbeat now.

I was reading an article about Mike O'Grady who for the youngsters was a winger playing for the very good Leeds Utd team in the 1960's. He was talking about playing away at Liverpool and Bill Shankly. He said Shankly was always waiting for the opposition team in the foyer as they got off the coach.. He'd say - " What are you doing here boys ? You'll get nothing today. You might as well just get back on the coach and go home " !

Edited September 13, 2020 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[darrenrover]

21 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I was reading an article about Mike O'Grady who for the youngsters was a winger playing for the very good Leeds Utd team in the 1960's. He was talking about playing away at Liverpool and Bill Shankly. He said Shankly was always waiting for the opposition team in the foyer as they got off the coach.. He'd say - " What are you doing here boys ? You'll get nothing today. You might as well just get back on the coach and go home " !

Similar era: Tommy Smith handing Jimmy Greaves a copy of the evening menu for Walton Hospital as they stood next to each other in the tunnel at Anfield pre-match and saying "You'll be needing this Jimmy".

Edited September 13, 2020 by darrenrover

[Mashed Potatoes]

12 minutes ago, darrenrover said:

Similar era: Tommy Smith handing Jimmy Greaves a copy of the evening menu for Walton Hospital as they stood next to each other in the tunnel at Anfield pre-match and saying "You'll be needing this Jimmy".

Thuggery was the only way Smith could have played against Greaves who was a far greater player.

[darrenrover]

14 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Thuggery was the only way Smith could have played against Greaves who was a far greater player.

Greaves was a clever, skilful forward with silky ball skills and Smith a no nonsense, hard tackling centre half who also read the game well. They played against each other many times and in the spirit of the game in general, I'm unsure who got the better of who most. More skilful, definitely, better player I'm not so sure. Tommy also scored whilst on his way to becoming a European Cup winner. Jimmy did nothing to come close but he did have a sense of humour!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

9 minutes ago, darrenrover said:

Greaves was a clever, skilful forward with silky ball skills and Smith a no nonsense, hard tackling centre half who also read the game well. They played against each other many times and in the spirit of the game in general, I'm unsure who got the better of who most. More skilful, definitely, better player I'm not so sure. Tommy also scored whilst on his way to becoming a European Cup winner. Jimmy did nothing to come close but he did have a sense of humour!

I think Jimmy scored when Spurs won the Euro Cup winners cup. I remember Spurs parading the cup around the pitch at Ewood before Rovers battered them 3-0 ! If I had had to chose between Jimmy or Tommy to play for Rovers on Saturday Jimmy would win hands down. The best goal poacher I ever saw. Having said that he rarely played well at Ewood for some reason.

Edited September 13, 2020 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[joey_big_nose]

I know hope springs eternal but having watched the Bournemouth game I have to say I like the new system which is quite a radical departure from where we were for most of last season, we've actually got quite a lot of good attacking players, so am interested to see if Tony and the team have turned a corner. 

Desperately needs some quality defenders though or it's all for naught.