tomphil Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Absolutely no rigour at the club. The " buck " doesn't stop anywhere. At other clubs the manager would be being called to the boardroom tomorrow morning for the hard word. At Rovers it'll be just business as usual. I thought the idea of bringing Johnno into the coaching set up was to allow him to have a greater responsibility for the first team. As far as I can see at the moment he's a glorified stats man. A bit of stealth going on there though perhaps by TM and his best pal. Removed the man waiting in the wings to a back office job. 2 Quote
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tomphil Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, K-Hod said: ‘No lasting defensive or tactical concerns’. Yet we concede another two at the weekend... It's pretty unforgivable the media don't call him out on these things when the mic is under his nose. Talk about a comfy position, i doubt he had it so easy in his beloved Boro. 1 Quote
Ewood Ace Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, tomphil said: It's pretty unforgivable the media don't call him out on these things when the mic is under his nose. Talk about a comfy position, i doubt he had it so easy in his beloved Boro. The local media are pathetic. I bet Mowbray can't believe his luck, he's got disinterested owners who never even visit, he has managed to get his mate appointed as CEO, he's got a local media who wouldn't dare to ask him a challenging question and just as he thought things couldn't get any better for him Covid hit so he has now has no fan pressure on him. I honestly think that he has the job here for as long as he wants it. 7 Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 The way it is round here, especially the BBC. Ian Chisnall was hated by a lot of Blackpool fans for never saying a word against Oyston on Radio Lancs. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 19 hours ago, Ewood Ace said: Every club is going to be having players missing with Covid or injuries we aren't the only club affected by them. How many more years before you can judge? When did I said you can't judge Mowbray and his tenure? Quote
Ewood Ace Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: When did I said you can't judge Mowbray and his tenure? I asked how many more years before You can judge? As you said it far too early for you to judge. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said: I asked how many more years before You can judge? As you said it far too early for you to judge. Yes it is far too early to judge Mowbray this season. I judged him last season and for me, we improved and finished in a higher league position. I gathered from your comments you would like a change of manager at Rovers? Edited November 1, 2020 by chaddyrovers Quote
Ewood Ace Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Yes it is far too early to judge Mowbray this season. I judged him last season and for me, we improved and finished in a higher league position. We've had 20% of this season and can you not notice glaring similarities from the previous 2 season that clearly Mowbray is not capable of sorting? Edited November 1, 2020 by Ewood Ace 4 Quote
Sparks Rover Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: I judged him last season and for me, we improved and finished in a higher league position. 3 points chaddy. ? we improved by 3 points despite spending close to 15m. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said: We've had 20% of this season and can you not notice glaring similarities from the previous 2 season that clearly Mowbray is not capable of sorting? I am fully aware of how many games have gone thanks. I am happy with Mowbray in charge overall and happy to give this 4-3-3 more times. When I think its time for a change I will post and I'm sure you will reply to it. So just to clarity, You want a change of manager and if thats the case who would you appoint? Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 Apparently Mowbray is under pressure, if we lose to Boro saw someone say he'd lose his job. Has anyone with any knowledge heard the same? One can hope Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, RoversClitheroe said: Apparently Mowbray is under pressure, if we lose to Boro saw someone say he'd lose his job. Has anyone with any knowledge heard the same? One can hope where did this post? Quote
Dolly blue Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 Much talk of unfortunate injuries, Covid etc but.....to be honest, even with the return of a number of players ,who has any hope of 3 points on Tuesday? Warnock will outthink Tony, Morsey will outmuscle Holtby, Assombalonga will outjump Lenihan....and what they’ll do with Pears ...I hate to think. He will be bullied ( remember, Warnock dropped him as soon as he was appointed) , but , on a 4 year deal ( scandalous ) he has time to prove his former boss wrong! Ayala ??? ...unfit....another reason why he and Warnock didn’t see. eye to eye. No slow build...he just plays hard men who have to prove their worth every week. We play men who rarely prove their worth every week. But, as Tony says there’s positives...until we KNOW how to defend , as a team.....there are no positives for me . Different week.....same sh.t 7 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, RoversClitheroe said: Apparently Mowbray is under pressure, if we lose to Boro saw someone say he'd lose his job. Has anyone with any knowledge heard the same? One can hope waggot would`nt sack mowbray if he took us to the conference and venkys hav`nt got clue whats going on,our only hope of the mowbray regime ending is if he decides to resign(unlikely) or he decides he`s had enough of the stress,retires and arranges a pay off Quote
Ewood Ace Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, chaddyrovers said: I am fully aware of how many games have gone thanks. I am happy with Mowbray in charge overall and happy to give this 4-3-3 more times. When I think its time for a change I will post and I'm sure you will reply to it. So just to clarity, You want a change of manager and if thats the case who would you appoint? 20 Points from the last 18 games playing 4-3-3 if we keep playing it you can forget the top 6 we will be more like bottom 6 with that sort of points return. It doesn't suit our players and no amount of tinkering will change that. There are a number of managers out there who I would take but it is pointless naming them as whenever posters name alternatives Mowbray's disciples on here tell us how we couldn't possibly attract any decent names that are mentioned and that there is no one better than their dear leader to manage the club. 2 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, Ewood Ace said: 20 Points from the last 18 games playing 4-3-3 if we keep playing it you can forget the top 6 we will be more like bottom 6 with that sort of points return. It doesn't suit our players and no amount of tinkering will change that. There are a number of managers out there who I would take but it is pointless naming them as whenever posters name alternatives Mowbray's disciples on here tell us how we couldn't possibly attract any decent names that are mentioned and that there is no one better than their dear leader to manage the club. My main complaint is Mowbray has accumulated all these players and he still hasn't come up with a successful way of playing. I suspect it's not possible. It's like accumulating random pieces from several jigsaws and trying to fit them together. 4 Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Apparently Mowbray is under pressure, if we lose to Boro saw someone say he'd lose his job. Has anyone with any knowledge heard the same? One can hope Boro could do us 5-0 or more but Mowbray would still be in situ. Why hasn't our fanbase worked out that yet and that we are being cornholed. I really despair that cons are so easy to pull. Edited November 1, 2020 by AllRoverAsia Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said: 20 Points from the last 18 games playing 4-3-3 if we keep playing it you can forget the top 6 we will be more like bottom 6 with that sort of points return. It doesn't suit our players and no amount of tinkering will change that. There are a number of managers out there who I would take but it is pointless naming them as whenever posters name alternatives Mowbray's disciples on here tell us how we couldn't possibly attract any decent names that are mentioned and that there is no one better than their dear leader to manage the club. Like I said before, We are playing 4-3-3 formation differently from last season as I pointed out in previous posts to yourself on here, I think its does suited our players like Armstrong, Elliott, Rothwell, Holtby, Brereton. Plus Douglas pushing on from left back I just wondered who would appoint if you got your wish of Mowbray leaving. Just after your opinion Quote
Ewood Ace Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Like I said before, We are playing 4-3-3 formation differently from last season as I pointed out in previous posts to yourself on here, I think its does suited our players like Armstrong, Elliott, Rothwell, Holtby, Brereton. Plus Douglas pushing on from left back I just wondered who would appoint if you got your wish of Mowbray leaving. Just after your opinion It's still 4-3-3 you are you just tinkering around the edges. The 4-3-3 system does not suit our players. I'd have a shortlist of 3 to replace Mowbray and those 3 would be Mark Hughes, Nigel Pearson and Tony Pulis. 1 Quote
Rogerb Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 38 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: waggot would`nt sack mowbray if he took us to the conference and venkys hav`nt got clue whats going on,our only hope of the mowbray regime ending is if he decides to resign(unlikely) or he decides he`s had enough of the stress,retires and arranges a pay off Not much stress when there is no crowd in the ground Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said: It's still 4-3-3 you are you just tinkering around the edges. The 4-3-3 system does not suit our players. I'd have a shortlist of 3 to replace Mowbray and those 3 would be Mark Hughes, Nigel Pearson and Tony Pulis. hughes is a busted flush imo,neither pearson or pulis would work with waggot or venkys,both are no nonsense types who would`nt put up with any venky/waggott nonsense Quote
Ewood Ace Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, simongarnerisgod said: hughes is a busted flush imo,neither pearson or pulis would work with waggot or venkys,both are no nonsense types who would`nt put up with any venky/waggott nonsense And there we go. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said: It's still 4-3-3 you are you just tinkering around the edges. The 4-3-3 system does not suit our players. I'd have a shortlist of 3 to replace Mowbray and those 3 would be Mark Hughes, Nigel Pearson and Tony Pulis. For me, it's been more tinkering the system. Me and you are better agreeing to disagree Thanks for answering the question. ? Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 Just to lighten the gloom. I've been re reading " Inverting The Pyramid " which is a book about the history of football tactics. Why don't we give 2-3-5 another go, it worked great when I was a kid. Goals galore. Kaminski Nyambe, Douglas Holtby, Ayala, Trybull Dolan, Armstrong, Brererton, Rothwell, Elliot Do you think Tony would go for it ? Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 4 hours ago, LDRover said: Gets us less than 50 points extrapolated over a season. Bona fide relegation form and 18 games is hardly a small sample. Got to be happy for the Wednesday points deduction and that Wycombe are a load of pony. Wycombe beat Sheff Wed yesterday, didn't they also come within an ace of getting a draw at Norwich ? Quote
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