Tony Mowbray Discussion

[arbitro]

1 hour ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Rovers fitness latest as four players sustain knocks | Lancashire Telegraph

''At Middlesbrough, with total respect to Tony Pulis and the way he plays, as we saw with Sheffield Wednesday at the weekend, he plays with a very compact unit infront and there’s no spaces to play through, for Aitor as well who we’ll face at the weekend. I’m asking Daniel to play in a team that’s a lot more expansive and I think his body is finding the extra workload hard until he gets acclimatised''

Tony bigging himself up.

Which begs the question why the f** did he sign him? And to compound Mowbrays nonsense and bullshit he gave him a three year deal.

Here's a prediction. Before the end of his deal we will pay him off.

[Bigdoggsteel]

1 hour ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Rovers fitness latest as four players sustain knocks | Lancashire Telegraph

''At Middlesbrough, with total respect to Tony Pulis and the way he plays, as we saw with Sheffield Wednesday at the weekend, he plays with a very compact unit infront and there’s no spaces to play through, for Aitor as well who we’ll face at the weekend. I’m asking Daniel to play in a team that’s a lot more expansive and I think his body is finding the extra workload hard until he gets acclimatised''

Tony bigging himself up.

By expansive ,he means stretched. Ayala seems like another Mowbray signing who doesn't fit the way we play. 

[darrenrover]

Sorry wrong thread!

Edited December 30, 2020 by darrenrover

[Boz]

The focus and probing questions need diverting away from the playing staff and directly onto the coaches. They have failed to address the basics for defending properly, not just defenders but the entire players.
Venus and Lowe, what are they doing in training to address our consistently poor defending? Start with defending set pieces, corners, free kicks and balls played into our penalty area, tighten up and be aware of the dangers, who knows we might benefit by occasionally scoring from set pieces too? 

Though too late in my opinion, they’ve had enough time and failed. It’s such an easy part of the game, to get yourselves organised, any half decent coach can achieve this.

[DE.]

1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

By expansive ,he means stretched. Ayala seems like another Mowbray signing who doesn't fit the way we play. 

I just don't get why the players seem to like him so much when he regularly throws half of them under the bus when things start going badly. Even if a manager was doing that to my colleagues rather than me I'd be riled and never be able to trust that person, let alone if I was the one being apportioned blame for my manager's terrible choice of strategy, personnel, etc. Is it just that they want an easy, comfortable life and Mowbray gives them that? If so then we've got problems as players with ambition wouldn't be having that at all.

Edited December 30, 2020 by DE.

[Dan]

13 hours ago, K-Hod said:

I’d just love to know what the justification was for the Buckley sub, in particular.

Saw a tweet from Rich Sharpe which indicated even he was confused about that.

Why do we ship so many goals, why do we make so many mistakes at the back and why have we been defensively suspect in all of your time here?

He’s had good backing this summer and he’s underachieving in a big way.

Bet Mowbray isn’t asked about any of these things by the good folks at the LT though.

Can you imagine a Rovers documentary series? Maybe Tony’s subconscious thoughts spoken throughout like Peep Show. 
 

Surely someone in his back room staff would question his inept decisions on team selections/positions? 
 

Also, I don’t think he’ll walk. He’s not the nice guy many think he is. As I’ve said before I think he’s an arrogant nasty man on the quiet. Like Ed Sheehan and James Cordon.  

[Bigdoggsteel]

4 minutes ago, DE. said:

I just don't get why the players seem to like him so much when he regularly throws half of them under the bus when things start going badly. Even if a manager was doing that to my colleagues rather than me I'd be riled and never be able to trust that person, let alone if I was the one being apportioned blame for my manager's terrible choice of strategy, personnel, etc. Is it just that they want an easy, comfortable life and Mowbray gives them that? If so then we've got problems as players with ambition wouldn't be having that at all.

I think you might be into something there. 

[Bigdoggsteel]

3 minutes ago, Dan said:

Can you imagine a Rovers documentary series? Maybe Tony’s subconscious thoughts spoken throughout like Peep Show. 
 

Surely someone in his back room staff would question his inept decisions on team selections/positions? 
 

Also, I don’t think he’ll walk. He’s not the nice guy many think he is. As I’ve said before I think he’s an arrogant nasty man on the quiet. Like Ed Sheehan and James Cordon.  

😂 Love Peep show. I don't think Mowbrays thoughts would be as funny as Mark and Jeremy 

[RV Blue]

1 hour ago, DE. said:

I just don't get why the players seem to like him so much when he regularly throws half of them under the bus when things start going badly. Even if a manager was doing that to my colleagues rather than me I'd be riled and never be able to trust that person, let alone if I was the one being apportioned blame for my manager's terrible choice of strategy, personnel, etc. Is it just that they want an easy, comfortable life and Mowbray gives them that? If so then we've got problems as players with ambition wouldn't be having that at all.

He picks on the easy targets. He’ll never lose the dressing room if he keeps the players who run the dressing room (Lenihan/Bennett etc.) onside. 

[jim mk2]

Every manager knows when their time is up and they cannot do any more, and that results are so bad their position is untenable. I think Mowbray is nearing that point. His whole demeanour last night showed a man who doesn't know what to do.

It's ok to say he went on "a similar death spiral" last season, and "Waggott laughed" when questioned about Mowbray's position, but it's missing the point, which is that there comes a time when a manager - even Mowbray - loses credibility and has to walk away.

Two more defeats could see Mowbray leave the club IMO.

 

 

[dingles staying down 4ever]

Did Nyambe appear injured to anyone else? There was no signal that I saw or was it a case of I need to make a change so lets start with Nyambe as I cant take my usual midfield 3 off sub as Holtby was already a sub?

[Bigdoggsteel]

6 minutes ago, dingles staying down 4ever said:

Did Nyambe appear injured to anyone else? There was no signal that I saw or was it a case of I need to make a change so lets start with Nyambe as I cant take my usual midfield 3 off sub as Holtby was already a sub?

I don't if he was injured, but he has been shite for the last 2-3 games 

[windymiller7]

Seems to be a big change in the fanbase on the back of last night's game. Even the usual suspects aren't even defending him.

Even Tony's not been on here, (sorry, I mean mashed tatty) telling us how great he is.

Players are regressing once again, he appears to be coaching the life out if them. Holtby is a good example, he looked Tugayesque a couple of months ago,  now every pass is either sideways or backwards. He doesn't become a bad player overnight & he's certainly not the only one. There even appears to be a change in Elliot over the last few games which I'm sure will not please a certain German on Merseyside.

I wanted him out last season, but this time I'm reaching boiling point with it. 

Oh to have Jack back in his office just for 10 mins!

Feck off now Tony whilst you still have some goodwill before you end up being mentioned in the same breath as those who should not be mentioned! 

At the moment he's a bit like a fart in a car that just won't go cos it's got into the upholstery & everything!

[dingles staying down 4ever]

2 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I don't if he was injured, but he has been shite for the last 2-3 games 

Who hasn't? We have only right back and his tight hamstring reappears as we need a scapegoat for Mowbray again?

No wonder he will walk away at the end of the season. He maybe genuinely injured but I suspect the usual blame game has started again. 

[Mattyblue]

Noticed some of the Facebook groups looked like they ‘turned’ last night, but looks back to business as usual today...

’Stabilised the club’

’Who we gonna get?’

‘small club’

 

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

A year like no other? Not really for Blackburn Rovers | Lancashire Telegraph

A decent assessment. 

[Bigdoggsteel]

26 minutes ago, dingles staying down 4ever said:

Who hasn't? We have only right back and his tight hamstring reappears as we need a scapegoat for Mowbray again?

No wonder he will walk away at the end of the season. He maybe genuinely injured but I suspect the usual blame game has started again. 

A scapegoat for Mowbray? What are you on about? 

[Bigdoggsteel]

24 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Noticed some of the Facebook groups looked like they ‘turned’ last night, but looks back to business as usual today...

’Stabilised the club’

’Who we gonna get?’

‘small club’

 

Who are we gonna get is a fair question though 

[Mattyblue]

Of course, as it is for every club. 

Just think it’s a bit of a curious juxtaposition that the very same people usually lauding the owners on said groups are also the ones sounding the alarm that the club couldn’t possibly appoint anyone better than Tony bloody Mowbray...

Edited December 30, 2020 by Mattyblue

[Bigdoggsteel]

3 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Of course, as it is for every club. 

Just think it’s a bit of a curious juxtaposition that the very same people usually lauding the owners on said groups are also the ones sounding the alarm that the club couldn’t possibly appoint anyone better than Tony bloody Mowbray...

We aren't "every club" 

I don't know about the people in those groups. They haven't made a stand out appointment during their time here though? Yes, they have put money in. Two seperate things. I don't blame people being concerned about who we might get. We could end up in relegation very quickly if it's the wrong appointment, again. 

 

 

Edited December 30, 2020 by Bigdoggsteel

[Mattyblue]

I know we aren’t ‘every club’, I posted that very view earlier today. And I certainly have reservations on potting TM on that basis.

But for those that believe we now have owners that have learnt their lessons and are bankrolling the club surely they shouldn’t be scared about replacing an underachieving manager? If they are, then obviously they don’t actually believe the owners have ‘learnt their lessons’ at all...

Edited December 30, 2020 by Mattyblue

[Sparks Rover]

18 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Who are we gonna get is a fair question though 

I think its exciting getting a new manager.  It would be now because we do have a decent team.   Normally a change of manager means the new manager has a load of shit to get rid of, its slightly different here and I think a good manager in quickly and a couple of good centre halves, we could sniff around top 6.  With this guy, no chance.

[Bigdoggsteel]

8 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

I think its exciting getting a new manager.  It would be now because we do have a decent team.   Normally a change of manager means the new manager has a load of shit to get rid of, its slightly different here and I think a good manager in quickly and a couple of good centre halves, we could sniff around top 6.  With this guy, no chance.

Yes, it is exciting, but that excitement could dissapate very quickly. The facts show they are more likely to appoint someone worse. That's the unfortunate reality. 

Talk of like Robins and Ainsworth. No thanks. A stronger character like Pearson? Couldn't see that working out. We are a bad appointment away from getting sucked into relegation. 

I'm terrified about who they would appoint to be honest. 

[Bbrovers2288]

I’m guessing Ayalas extra workload is picking the ball out our net all the time 

[Bigdoggsteel]

The Ayala situation is damning for Mowbray. I like Ayala and I think he is a good defender, however the way we play doesn't suit him. So why did Mowbray sign him? Same as Gallagher.

If you want a centre half to play how we do, you need someone like Ben White who was on loan at Leeds last season. 

It's not rocket science.