Tony Mowbray Discussion

[DE.]

  On 09/01/2021 at 18:36, benhben said:

I didn't actually compare him to kean, although the fact he handpicked the board and is therefore now under no pressure does bare similarities...

 

The shock in my post was in reference to a previous poster  (can't remember their name), "sacking Mowbray now would be a disaster"

Cant get my head around that one

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In fairness he did post that almost a year and a half ago!

[benhben]

  On 09/01/2021 at 18:37, DE. said:

In fairness he did post that almost a year and a half ago!

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Feck me....I've only gone and quoted a post from the first page. Jesus wept.

I'll get my coat.....

[rigger]

  On 09/01/2021 at 18:32, Yoogo said:

We were bad. We had clear chances to level up or go ahead, and we ultimately lost to a combination of that and a terrible bit of goalkeeping by Pears.

The only difference for me is that I wasn't all that bothered about how it was going to go beforehand, although slightly torn in that we put out a strong side.

I'm certainly not a Mowbray fanatic, but I think he deserves the rest of the season to prove us all wrong. If it's still mid-table stuff, then I think it's 4.5 decent years, and let's move on. While I'm not a fan of this "F*ck off Mowbray" stuff, especially after how bad things could have otherwise become as many said would, I think he's starting to cement himself as "Mid-table Mogga".

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For me it is not about table position. I would say fuck off Mowbray, because of the dross football that is being served up game after game, with no reaction from the manager. 

[DE.]

  On 09/01/2021 at 18:39, benhben said:

Feck me....I've only gone and quoted a post from the first page. Jesus wept.

I'll get my coat.....

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Martin hasn't been on in a while, but if he does come back I'm sure he'll appreciate the delayed response 😅

[Silas]

  On 09/01/2021 at 18:37, Yoogo said:

I won't lie - I'm shit-scared of who these owners could appoint next!

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I think most people are, but there comes a time when taking that risk outweighs stagnating under TM.

[rigger]

  On 09/01/2021 at 18:37, Yoogo said:

To be fair, I do get an underlying feeling that if we start to plummet down the table, Mogga is in virtually no danger of losing his job.

There are better managers out there than Mowbray, of course. There are also worse ones. I won't lie - I'm shit-scared of who these owners could appoint next!

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I would even settle for a worse manager. we are absolutely shit at the moment. I have become apathetic with Mowbray and I am starting to loose any feelings for the Rovers of today. I want to see a return of some passion even if it anger.

[SamTheShrew]

Any enjoyment has been sucked out of watching Mowbray’s Rovers over the last two years. Never been less excited about a cup game.

 

meh. We go again. The nightmare continues

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 09/01/2021 at 18:27, AllRoverAsia said:

I WILL NOT READ SHIT

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I never read anything he says. Most of us could write exactly what he'll say. I'd like a touch of the Stan Ternents - " There were players playing today who'll never play for this club again as long as I am the manager ! "

Edited January 9, 2021 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[davulsukur]

I mean what else is there to say?

Rinse, repeat on pretty much everything.

[rigger]

  On 09/01/2021 at 18:50, Yoogo said:

Yes, there's definitely a "Well what's the point if we don't?" argument. I suppose the elephant in the room is if Mowbray would get canned if we finished in the top half but not in the play-offs over the next couple of seasons. I get the impression that he could do that endlessly here.

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And it would be watched by sub 5000 crowds.

Edited January 9, 2021 by rigger

[StevenSK]

  On 09/01/2021 at 19:04, SamTheShrew said:

Any enjoyment has been sucked out of watching Mowbray’s Rovers over the last two years. Never been less excited about a cup game.

 

meh. We go again. The nightmare continues

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We didn’t even watch it today.

we’ve  had enough, tune back in once TM is gone and there’s a buzz about the place again. 
 

 

[Dreams of 1995]

It is the blatant lack of desire that is starting to wind me up. If we don’t make play offs this year he simply has to go. The only problem being that we are also in a poor state of affairs in terms of playing staff after this season. It could be a very rough summer. 
 

He has had his chances. You can’t defend the indefensible and simply put he’s getting it wrong far too many times. 

[JacknOry]

Should have gone last season tbh but he has at least brought in some exciting players - he just doesn't know how to use them or set up a defense. 

Tired of saying he is a nice guy - nice guys always come last, that's just the way it is. Nice bloke but that just rubs off on the players and he doesn't have the tactical nous for that kind of buddy buddy relationship to be effective on the field. 

We have some good players and i just feel that the only thing holding us back is the manager. As I have felt for at least a season now. He brought many of those players, so kudos on that, and you did a decent job tony but you have gone as far as you can. its stagnant now and we need someone to come in with fresh ideas.

 

[bazza]

  On 09/01/2021 at 19:47, JacknOry said:

 

We have some good players and i just feel that the only thing holding us back is the manager. As I have felt for at least a season now. He brought many of those players, so kudos on that, and you did a decent job tony but you have gone as far as you can. its stagnant now and we need someone to come in with fresh ideas.

 

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This.  Over the past 3 seasons I cannot see a regular steady progression of all things at the club. We need a new manager and new backroom staff.

[simongarnerisgod]

  On 09/01/2021 at 19:26, rigger said:

And it would be watched by sub 5000 crowds.

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good point,i can`t see the hard working folks of blackburn  and surrounding areas pay £20/25 admission as a walk on to watch at the moment tbh(if we could that is!!)

[matt83]

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 09/01/2021 at 20:06, simongarnerisgod said:

good point,i can`t see the hard working folks of blackburn  and surrounding areas pay £20/25 admission as a walk on to watch at the moment tbh(if we could that is!!)

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You'd have to pay me £20 to watch that.

[AllRoverAsia]

  On 09/01/2021 at 20:41, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

You'd have to pay me £20 to watch that.

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Plus a pie and a pint and a seat in the JW with rug provided

[Stuart]

  On 09/01/2021 at 17:49, danger19_80 said:

Bad but worse than Kean and the year or so after him? Or Coyle? I don't think anything is, or will be, worse than those times.

Tony is a decent guy but a limited manager who has undoubtedly reached the end of the road.

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Interesting post.

Mowbray is not as despised as Kean was, not by a long stretch. But even when Kean was here there was hope, there was an outlet. Enough people cared enough to try to bring about a change. Ultimately, IMHO, they did as they brought Shebby to the fore and things became very uncomfortable for him from that moment onwards.

This time out, it just feels relentless. A constant recurring theme of mediocrity, with no bogeyman, nobody to complain to and nobody who cares enough to complain, not even most other fans. And it just goes on forever.

It must have been how Bill Murray’s character felt in Groundhog Day at the point he was trying to end it all.

Conversely, for many fans Mowbray is the best and only man for the job - until he eventually does leave, at which point those same fans will say he had gone past his sell-by date and it was the right time to leave. But not a minute sooner.

[alcd]

Mowbray is lucky there are no fans to express their displeasure in person. I suspect that even defeats in the next two (back to back) home games will not get him shifted.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 09/01/2021 at 21:00, Stuart said:

Interesting post.

Mowbray is not as despised as Kean was, not by a long stretch. But even when Kean was here there was hope, there was an outlet. Enough people cared enough to try to bring about a change. Ultimately, IMHO, they did as they brought Shebby to the fore and things became very uncomfortable for him from that moment onwards.

This time out, it just feels relentless. A constant recurring theme of mediocrity, with no bogeyman, nobody to complain to and nobody who cares enough to complain, not even most other fans. And it just goes on forever.

It must have been how Bill Murray’s character felt in Groundhog Day at the point he was trying to end it all.

Conversely, for many fans Mowbray is the best and only man for the job - until he eventually does leave, at which point those same fans will say he had gone past his sell-by date and it was the right time to leave. But not a minute sooner.

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I've said it all along that their current exit plan is to diminish and demoralise the fan base to the point that when they pull the plug nobody will be too bothered one way or another. How many do you think would pay to watch that every week, 8,000 ? 7,000 ?

[Stuart]

  On 09/01/2021 at 21:06, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I've said it all along that their current exit plan is to diminish and demoralise the fan base to the point that when they pull the plug nobody will be too bothered one way or another. How many do you think would pay to watch that every week, 8,000 ? 7,000 ?

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I fear that with Mowbray still in charge we will struggle to get 5,000 ST holders. The lockdown restrictions being (eventually) lifted could see record numbers of fans flock back to football matches but with Waggott likely introducing yet another (we’ve-done-all-we-can) price hike it could be the final nail in our coffin. The bloke has the imagination of a cabbage.

Venkys could just as easily announce Mark Hughes as our new manager as announce thy are liquidating the club!

[JHRover]

  On 09/01/2021 at 21:20, Stuart said:

I fear that with Mowbray still in charge we will struggle to get 5,000 ST holders. The lockdown restrictions being (eventually) lifted could see record numbers of fans flock back to football matches but with Waggott likely introducing yet another (we’ve-done-all-we-can) price hike it could be the final nail in our coffin. The bloke has the imagination of a cabbage.

Venkys could just as easily announce Mark Hughes as our new manager as announce thy are liquidating the club!

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We only flogged about 8000 last season. Since then we've had a pandemic, recession, price rises and still have mediocre Mowbray and Waggott running the show that most people are now thoroughly bored of.

Our existing ST base is allegedly around 2500 which is horrendous in itself but can be explained away due to the restrictions. 

So yeah, no serious changes and I think 5000 is probably where we will end up.

 

[Stuart]

  On 09/01/2021 at 21:40, JHRover said:

We only flogged about 8000 last season. Since then we've had a pandemic, recession, price rises and still have mediocre Mowbray and Waggott running the show that most people are now thoroughly bored of.

Our existing ST base is allegedly around 2500 which is horrendous in itself but can be explained away due to the restrictions. 

So yeah, no serious changes and I think 5000 is probably where we will end up.

 

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I think ‘bored’ is exactly the word. Between them they’ve taken all of the fun out of it.

[rigger]

I will be desperate to go to the first game we are allowed back to Ewood. If Mowbray is still in charge I will give it a miss