Tony Mowbray Discussion

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

'Owners understand' - Mowbray on four-year Rovers journey | Lancashire Telegraph

[Blue blood]

Thing is if fans are always criticising your team selections - that strongly suggests you are getting them wrong! 

You can fool some of the people all the time and all that. If your selections are constantly questioned there's probably a reason for it. 

Also speaking of contradictions - he says Venkys don't know much about football (ha! understatement of the year) but they do understand we are on a journey. Impressive how they can know nothing and take a long term view at the same time. 

[Blue blood]

4 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

'Owners understand' - Mowbray on four-year Rovers journey | Lancashire Telegraph

Tony has evidently been reading this board. Just to clarify for him I'm not unhappy with his performance as manager because you aren't winning the premiership. I'm unhappy because he can't assemble or organize a defence, can't get us above mid table and are regressing, have made some terrible blunders in the transfer market and because he plays players stupidly out of position - Buckley and Gally being two prime examples. 

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, Blue blood said:

Tony has evidently been reading this board. Just to clarify for him I'm not unhappy with his performance as manager because you aren't winning the premiership. I'm unhappy because he can't assemble or organize a defence, can't get us above mid table and are regressing, have made some terrible blunders in the transfer market and because he plays players stupidly out of position - Buckley and Gally being two prime examples. 

Come on mate, he's had a left back at right back for, er, erm, hmm, 1 game. And all his CB's are injured. You know like the massively injury prone one he signed called Ayala. 

I don't think he's been a bad manager at rovers and I actually respect the job he's done. We could still be in L1 under different circumstances and a different managers. But he talks utter bollox and is full of excuses for his own failings. He actually came across as a arrogant on that podcast IMO, and I've never thought that about him before. 

[Darrenbot]

36 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Clemmit just absolutely praising him and falling for it completely

That would be Mark Clemmit the born and bred Middlesbrough fan,Mowbray is probably one of his heroes from his younger days as fan.

[G Somerset Rover]

12 minutes ago, Darrenbot said:

That would be Mark Clemmit the born and bred Middlesbrough fan,Mowbray is probably one of his heroes from his younger days as fan.

That adds up - you could sense he had a hard on for Tony (if only Boro would take him off our hands). I wish the likes of Clemmit had actually watched us this season - he’s soon realise where we’re really at.

Edited January 21, 2021 by Gavlar Somerset Rover!

[Ulrich]

2 hours ago, Blue blood said:

Just to double check - are we on a journey? 

Every one of his points is actually a backhanded criticism of himself or a lie! 

No defenders - his fault for assembling the squad. 

Having to change the attitude - his fault for not doing after 4.5 years!

Owners being good eggs, and no pleasing fans - pure lies. 

Journey - absolute lies. Journeys have progress and we aren't. Journeys don't take as long as this without tangible improvements. 

Honestly if anyone didn't want him gone before this then they should now. Lies and excuses that only highlight his ineptness. 

 

That's the journey he has us on.... 

[roversfan99]

Hes going to say things like this though, he wants to protect and preserve his job and theres nothing wrong with that. It should be based on whats on the pitch which is why he needs to go. No problem with him defending himself.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Hes going to say things like this though, he wants to protect and preserve his job and theres nothing wrong with that. It should be based on whats on the pitch which is why he needs to go. No problem with him defending himself.

What was he defending himself against? It was the podcast equivalent of a Hello magazine fluff piece. 

[matt83]

Without playing I thought it was highly unlikely Mowbray would find a way of irritating me but that propaganda piece has done it.  

[StevenSK]

2 hours ago, matt83 said:

Without playing I thought it was highly unlikely Mowbray would find a way of irritating me but that propaganda piece has done it.  

HSH Who’s left on the player list they have to sign? 

[RevidgeBlue]

What a ridiculous piece from Mowbray. As if anyone expects us to be at exactly the same level we were when Sutton and Shearer were here.

What grinds my gears the most is when he constantly plays the humble, down to earth working class hero card. How does that tally with constantly wasting the owners money on overly generous contract extensions for players that are past their best or were never good enough in the first place or both, other players that clearly were never going to play for us, and an ongoing  stream of questionable signings through his Middlesbrough connections.

And if we want to be pernickety about it we're more or less where we were when he joined - fifteen (poor) games away from returning to League 1. We're certainly not progressing.

The ramblings of a desperate man scrabbling  hard to preserve his cushy number aboard the good ship "long term plan".

He's spotted that the owners aren't football experts, has wormed his way into their confidence, has got his mate appointed as his boss for extra security and is determined to eke the job out as long as possible and squeeze every last penny he can out of the V's for his own family's benefit.

[Paul Mani]

I’d look into why Mowbray has done the interview. Not his style. Obv wanted to get his point across. Under pressure?

[Blue blood]

2 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

I’d look into why Mowbray has done the interview. Not his style. Obv wanted to get his point across. Under pressure?

Sadly the excuses and banging on about the journey are his style Paul. That's the problem. 

That said I think you are right that he might be under pressure to do such a large amount of self preservation in one go. 

[Paul Mani]

2 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

Sadly the excuses and banging on about the journey are his style Paul. That's the problem. 

That said I think you are right that he might be under pressure to do such a large amount of self preservation in one go. 

I haven’t known him ever volunteer for an external interview like that before? Timing seems too much of a coincidence and if you listen to the podcast he barely gets asked any questions. Just rolls straight into his life story and protecting what he’s done! Seems strange....

[Leonard Venkhater]

4 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

I haven’t known him ever volunteer for an external interview like that before? Timing seems too much of a coincidence and if you listen to the podcast he barely gets asked any questions. Just rolls straight into his life story and protecting what he’s done! Seems strange....

Lol..What do you expect? Critical journalistic analysis?

[Mattyblue]

Two Boro fans having a good old yarn by the sounds of it...

[Paul Mani]

1 minute ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Lol..What do you expect? Critical journalistic analysis?

No, just feel like he set the interview up to get HIS point across. You have to wonder about the timing and his motivation...”the owners understand that we’ve had three Cb’s out...well I hope they do..” 👀

[darrenrover]

6 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

 

For an honest, humble, working-class lad (his words) he's massively full of himself. 

 

...and never at fault for anything, it's always someone or something else that is to blame.

May 2019: "Tony, KPMG say you can either have a Danny Graham or a £1.5 million new pitch, the best in the country but you can't have both. What'll it be?"..........

....January 2021?

TAXI

[Leonard Venkhater]

4 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

No, just feel like he set the interview up to get HIS point across. You have to wonder about the timing and his motivation...”the owners understand that we’ve had three Cb’s out...well I hope they do..” 👀

You're dead right. He clearly feels under pressure..I was being facetious. 

[Darrenbot]

Any credible owners would say.look weve used this mob to get us the last few managers and were stuck treading water in the championship,lets try somewhere different this time but as they arent credible owners we'll more likely get more shit from the same stable of crappy managers we have gotten used too.

[simongarnerisgod]

19 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

I’d look into why Mowbray has done the interview. Not his style. Obv wanted to get his point across. Under pressure?

he bloody should be under pressure,he`s unable to get the best out of a good set of players and at the moment we don`t look like winning again,ever!!!

[darrenrover]

1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said:

he bloody should be under pressure,he`s unable to get the best out of a good set of players and at the moment we don`t look like winning again,ever!!!

Only excuses regarding the defence, no focus as to the reasons why we haven't had a decent centre half since Grant Hanley and Shane Duffy left. Who's watch has that been on?

And another thing, the reference to being 'entitled', just fuck off Mowbray. The majority of remaining Rovers fans all remember traipsing round such salubrious stadia such as The Shay, Field Mill, Millmoor, Vale Park, Gigg Lane, Spotland etc in the late 60s and early 70s, don't talk to me of being 'spoiled'!

[Paul Mani]

2 minutes ago, darrenrover said:

Only excuses regarding the defence, no focus as to the reasons why we haven't had a decent centre half since Grant Hanley and Shane Duffy left. Who's watch has that been on?

And another thing, the reference to being 'entitled', just fuck off Mowbray. The majority of remaining Rovers fans all remember traipsing round such salubrious stadia such as The Shay, Field Mill, Millmoor, Vale Park, Gigg Lane, Spotland etc in the late 60s and early 70s, don't talk to me of being 'spoiled'!

Yeah, that reference was strange!! “Some of the fans remember Shearer and Sutton, they’ll never be happy!”

Wow...I reckon the message has got out to Venkys. That interview is fascinating from a Mowbray point of view. He’s never ‘defended’ his position like that before...

[JHRover]

Amazing how Mowbray somehow manages to make basic elements of football and management out to be special unique qualities and virtues that only he is able to deliver.

 - Trying to improve and get higher in the league

 - Bringing better players in than those who depart

 - Trying to tie good players down to long term contracts

 Does he think these are unique concepts that he has come up with? I think every manager in the world would aim to do the same.

"Every team is super organised and fit". I don't think we are. That's a big part of the issue.

I agree that Mowbray probably feels under pressure of some sorts and so he should. He's been well backed, had plenty of time and there is little evidence of any progress. There's something wrong if he isn't feeling some heat or scrutiny. Sadly that will almost entirely be local from fans and to a lesser degree local media rather than in the club hierarchy. 

I suspect his predecessors have also felt pressure at times when they've been struggling, not knowing what the loons in Pune are going to do.

Unfortunately the setup here is a long way from conventional and he's probably bomb proof, the only spanner in the works might be mysterious Pasha but by all accounts he's nowhere to be seen and hasn't since early last year. Probably too late for that now as Mowbray has his feet under the table in India. If it's in the hands of 'Madame' then he probably doesn't realise how safe he really is.

I've no problem with him reminding people that we are Blackburn Rovers and with our history we should be looking to get back to the Premier League. That doesn't translate into arrogance or expecting a god given right to be there, but we've just as much right as anyone else and we are not a little club punching above our weight here.