Tony Mowbray Discussion

[grinder]

the problem with his softly softly evolutionary approach is that by the time he has bought a few more pieces of his jigsaw  someone else has nicked all the bits he has put together - itll never come to fruition and maybe he doesn't want it to- he's not good enought to manage at a level above and I suspect he knows it...

[joey_big_nose]

His body language was really weird tonight, utterly passive (even more so than normal). I'm totally guessing but made me feel something is going on behind the scenes.

[SamTheShrew]

4 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

His body language was really weird tonight, utterly passive (even more so than normal). I'm totally guessing but made me feel something is going on behind the scenes.

We can only hope.  Alas, it’s Groundhog Day, no pressure as always.  Carry on in cuckoo land tony

[simongarnerisgod]

8 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

His body language was really weird tonight, utterly passive (even more so than normal). I'm totally guessing but made me feel something is going on behind the scenes.

could have lost the dressing room,that lifeless performance tonight might just make him think his time is up,i bloody hope so,nice fellow,not very good manager

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

29 minutes ago, matt83 said:

Too late

3 years too late for me. Anybody else " managing " that shambles would know it's time to go.

Edited February 12, 2021 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[SBlue]

Avoided this place during the poor form because I got tired of being one of the few contrary voices.

Call me an idiot (almost feel like one with how shit some of this has been) but I still am happy for him to stay.

 

Reason?

The owners and pretty much every single thing since they came in.

 

The rebuild job TM has done - 

The solidity, the stability, the focus on youth and sustainability, the integration of the academy, the INTEGRITY, and the squad that he has assembled (and PLEASE check our net spend I’m sick of hearing he’s had bucket loads of cash for our level)

 

We know that it is easily lost.

It is easily thrown away.

 

Are there even any solid suggestions for a successor?

 

I trust TM. He might not be the most exciting, or some tactical genius that can piss the championship (no one is). 
 

But at least it’s about the football with him.

 

Lots to lose.

But still a dice that is hot in the hand and tempting to throw right now.

Edited February 12, 2021 by S8 & Blue

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

It's live on SKY so he has to act bemused by the performance because that suggests we don't normally play like that. He's not stupid, he knows exactly what he's doing.

He also does the 'nice, humble, honest working-class guy' schtick at every club. 

Edited February 12, 2021 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama

[LDRover]

52 minutes ago, Hasta said:

If normal service is to be resumed, it's around about now that those fans who say it's time for Mowbray to move on if we don't get in the play offs this season start moving the goalposts.

Already happening on FB mate. "We were in Div 1 a couple of seasons ago, mid table is fine"

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

2 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

But at least it’s about the football with him.

Which is why he should go, because the football's appalling. 

[Wood26]

4 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

Avoided this place during the poor form because I got tired of being one of the few contrary voices.

Call me an idiot (almost feel like one with how shit some of this has been) but I still am happy for him to stay.

 

Reason?

The owners and pretty much every single thing since they came in.

 

The rebuild job TM has done - 

The solidity, the stability, the focus on youth and sustainability, the integration of the academy, the INTEGRITY, and the squad that he has assembled (and PLEASE check our net spend I’m sick of hearing he’s had bucket loads of cash for our level)

 

We know that it is easily lost.

It is easily thrown away.

 

Are there even any solid suggestions for a successor?

I am with you mate. 

There is no getting away from home poor we been, even winning in january I think we have looked way off.

Give Mowbray the season, he deserves it, and see where we end up. Pointless chopping it up now, wont get us to EPL all of a sudden.

If we are miles off end of season, then I couldn't argue trying someone new.

 

[Ewood Ace]

6 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

Avoided this place during the poor form because I got tired of being one of the few contrary voices.

Call me an idiot (almost feel like one with how shit some of this has been) but I still am happy for him to stay.

 

Reason?

The owners and pretty much every single thing since they came in.

 

The rebuild job TM has done - 

The solidity, the stability, the focus on youth and sustainability, the integration of the academy, the INTEGRITY, and the squad that he has assembled (and PLEASE check our net spend I’m sick of hearing he’s had bucket loads of cash for our level)

 

We know that it is easily lost.

It is easily thrown away.

 

Are there even any solid suggestions for a successor?

 

I trust TM. He might not be the most exciting, or some tactical genius that can piss the championship (no one is). 
 

But at least it’s about the football with him.

 

Lots to lose.

But still a dice that is hot in the hand and tempting to throw right now.

So would you give him a contract for life?

[Ewood Ace]

Honestly I think the only thing keeping him here is the good pay packet he is picking up which will probably his last big one before retirement. He looked like a man tonight who had no interest whatsoever and would rather have been anywhere else.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

1 minute ago, Wood26 said:

If we are miles off end of season, then I couldn't argue trying someone new.

What does that mean? Mowbray said Top 6. 

[SBlue]

 

Just now, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Which is why he should go, because the football's appalling. 

Very fair comment.

Like I say, victim of his own success.

It wasn’t about the football FOR YEARS before Mowbray, in fact since the day they bought the club.

 

If we think we are due an improvement and have ideas for who and why - then I’m certainly listening... but we know that we probably won’t get it.

 

The vitriol and disrespect to the man on here sometimes is pretty nauseating and short sighted imo.

 

But let it be known - imo we have looked utterly fucking well poor for the last couple of months, WAY below the capabilities of this squad.

Shite situation all round. 

[Wood26]

Just now, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

What does that mean? Mowbray said Top 6. 

Yeah exactly that. Not in top 6, then time for change.

[simongarnerisgod]

Just now, LDRover said:

Already happening on FB mate. "We were in Div 1 a couple of seasons ago, mid table is fine"

it`s not really about being in midtable,it`s about mowbray not being able to get any consistency out of a pretty decent squad,it now appears he`s plumbed new depths and it`s a complete disorganised mess

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

7 minutes ago, Wood26 said:

I am with you mate. 

There is no getting away from home poor we been, even winning in january I think we have looked way off.

Give Mowbray the season, he deserves it, and see where we end up. Pointless chopping it up now, wont get us to EPL all of a sudden.

If we are miles off end of season, then I couldn't argue trying someone new.

 

If Big Jack was running the show he'd be long gone. If by some miracle he'd have hung on until until now he'd have been fired after tonight's game. It's over for him at Rovers. Come Monday morning we should be looking for the new guy.

Edited February 12, 2021 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[SBlue]

5 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

So would you give him a contract for life?

Is that a strawman, a false equivalence, or are you just being intentionally dense?

Not been on here a while so need to get used to the level of discourse again.

[darrenrover]

17 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

Avoided this place during the poor form because I got tired of being one of the few contrary voices.

Call me an idiot (almost feel like one with how shit some of this has been) but I still am happy for him to stay.

 

Reason?

The owners and pretty much every single thing since they came in.

 

The rebuild job TM has done - 

The solidity, the stability, the focus on youth and sustainability, the integration of the academy, the INTEGRITY, and the squad that he has assembled (and PLEASE check our net spend I’m sick of hearing he’s had bucket loads of cash for our level)

 

We know that it is easily lost.

It is easily thrown away.

 

Are there even any solid suggestions for a successor?

 

I trust TM. He might not be the most exciting, or some tactical genius that can piss the championship (no one is). 
 

But at least it’s about the football with him.

 

Lots to lose.

But still a dice that is tempting to throw.

What's Jack Marshall, Ken Furphy, Gordon Lee etc. doing these days? Time moves on.

 Do we just have to contend ourselves with shit, shit and more shit because we may appoint another dead-leg? If that's the case I'm jacking it all in. It's a ludicrous argument. WE ARE BLACKBURN ROVERS!

Everyone at Brockhall and Ewood hate Mowbray with a passion, they all think he's a complete dick. Can you not see that in everybody's body language week after week?

The man sat motionless all match tonight, wrapped in a bloody snood. Do you not think he should have been stood in The Technical area snarling instructions, motivating and driving his team on? Course he should!!

Just fuck off Mowbray, you are damaging our famous club and we've suffered enough in the past 10 years FFS.

Just bloody do one!!

Edited February 12, 2021 by darrenrover

[darrenrover]

9 minutes ago, LDRover said:

Already happening on FB mate. "We were in Div 1 a couple of seasons ago, mid table is fine"

Are they not all pillocks employed by the club?

[matt83]

8 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

Avoided this place during the poor form because I got tired of being one of the few contrary voices.

Call me an idiot (almost feel like one with how shit some of this has been) but I still am happy for him to stay.

 

Reason?

The owners and pretty much every single thing since they came in.

 

The rebuild job TM has done - 

The solidity, the stability, the focus on youth and sustainability, the integration of the academy, the INTEGRITY, and the squad that he has assembled (and PLEASE check our net spend I’m sick of hearing he’s had bucket loads of cash for our level)

 

We know that it is easily lost.

It is easily thrown away.

 

Are there even any solid suggestions for a successor?

 

I trust TM. He might not be the most exciting, or some tactical genius that can piss the championship (no one is). 
 

But at least it’s about the football with him.

 

Lots to lose.

But still a dice that is hot in the hand and tempting to throw right now.

Fear of the Venkys is a valid concern but they brought him here.

May I ask what is it you trust Mowbray to do? If it’s promotion or even the play offs it’s simply never happening. Ever. He’s too tactically inept. If it’s bumbling around mid table then I trust him also. But at £200 million in debt that can’t go on forever  

There have been lots of decent suggestions for replacements but I cannot be bothered listing them. Personally I’d have Pearson or Hughes.

I disagree it is about the football with Mowbray. I think it’s about himself and his bank balance but that’s just my opinion. 

[Wood26]

Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

If Big Jack was running the show he'd been long gone. If by some miracle he'd have hung on until until now he'd have been fired after tonight's game. It's over for him at Rovers. Come Monday morning we should be looking for the new guy.

We are 8th, 2 places out of our goal, with a way to go. I get it, we are frustrating as hell, but let him finish season, if we dont make it, change it in summer. 

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, S8 & Blue said:

The vitriol and disrespect to the man on here sometimes is pretty nauseating and short sighted imo.

I agree with that to a point, he deserves to go quietly and with thanks for doing the job he's done. But he really should go, he doesn't even look interested. And when your average Joe can see that playing Gally on the wing/wing back/full back is absolutely insane then the gig is up.

[LDRover]

1 minute ago, darrenrover said:

Are they not all pillocks employed by the club?

It's the only plausible explanation. Well that and insanity.

[Ewood Ace]

Just now, S8 & Blue said:

Is that a strawman, a false equivalence

It's not though is it. You are basically saying that whilst Venkys are here (which could be a long time) that he should be manager.

3 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

Like I say, victim of his own success.

What success?