Tony Mowbray Discussion

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, Wood26 said:

Yeah exactly that. Not in top 6, then time for change.

I'd argue that's fairly obvious now. He's never been in the Top 6 in 3 years has he?

I'd be more concerned with us going down if we now go on one of his 6/7/8 match winless runs, which he is very capable of. 

[SBlue]

1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said:

it`s not really about being in midtable,it`s about mowbray not being able to get any consistency out of a pretty decent squad,it now appears he`s plumbed new depths and it`s a complete disorganised mess

Agree it is tbh.

Are we overrating the squad?

Often think we do.

 

1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

If Big Jack was running the show he'd been long gone. If by some miracle he'd have hung on until until now he'd have been fired after tonight's game. It's over for him at Rovers. Come Monday morning we should be looking for the new guy.

Yeah but he ain’t. It’s Venkys. Fucking Venkys.

Kean, Berg, Appleton, Tosser Lambert and Fucking Owen Coyle Venkys.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, Wood26 said:

We are 8th, 2 places out of our goal, with a way to go. I get it, we are frustrating as hell, but let him finish season, if we dont make it, change it in summer. 

The way we're playing we're more likely to finish 8th from bottom. Our current form is relegation form. We are not out of the woods yet. Let's just waste the rest of this season just like we've wasted the last three.

[West Yorks Rover]

I'm seriously beginning to think that Mowbray is just as bad as Steve Kean, something very dodgy about

this club, even now.

Edited February 12, 2021 by West Yorks Rover

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, S8 & Blue said:

Agree it is tbh.

Are we overrating the squad?

Often think we do.

 

Yeah but he ain’t. It’s Venkys. Fucking Venkys.

Kean, Berg, Appleton, Tosser Lambert and Fucking Owen Coyle Venkys.

Well the way we are playing we haven't moved forward an inch since those days.

[darrenrover]

2 minutes ago, Wood26 said:

We are 8th, 2 places out of our goal, with a way to go. I get it, we are frustrating as hell, but let him finish season, if we dont make it, change it in summer. 

No, absolutely no. It's a flawed and week argument. The man is not good enough, He is not a winner: a blind man on a galloping horse can see that FFS. Did you see his depth of enthusiasm and care tonight? He could not give a fuck!

[joey_big_nose]

15 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

Avoided this place during the poor form because I got tired of being one of the few contrary voices.

Call me an idiot (almost feel like one with how shit some of this has been) but I still am happy for him to stay.

 

Reason?

The owners and pretty much every single thing since they came in.

 

The rebuild job TM has done - 

The solidity, the stability, the focus on youth and sustainability, the integration of the academy, the INTEGRITY, and the squad that he has assembled (and PLEASE check our net spend I’m sick of hearing he’s had bucket loads of cash for our level)

 

We know that it is easily lost.

It is easily thrown away.

 

Are there even any solid suggestions for a successor?

 

I trust TM. He might not be the most exciting, or some tactical genius that can piss the championship (no one is). 
 

But at least it’s about the football with him.

 

Lots to lose.

But still a dice that is hot in the hand and tempting to throw right now.

I agree we could easily get someone worse. But.... also feels like we have gone as far as we can with him. We have a decent squad now but not really kicking on in the table. If we just tread water things the team can get demotivated or distracted, and suddenly a mid table team finds itself in a relegation dogfight....

A year ago I was on balance up for giving him more time, but I'd say now it's definitely time to switch. We're probably safe, so could get Damian Johnson to care take while we do a proper full manager search, if we are not already looking with Mowbray in post. 

Maybe he knows that is already happening in the background and that's why he's looking disengaged? We can hope I suppose.

[Ewood Ace]

2 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

Yeah but he ain’t. It’s Venkys. Fucking Venkys.

Kean, Berg, Appleton, Tosser Lambert and Fucking Owen Coyle Venkys.

Yet you seemingly want their most recent appointment here for at least as long as they are.

[SBlue]

Just now, Ewood Ace said:

It's not though is it. You are basically saying that whilst Venkys are here (which could be a long time) that he should be manager.

What success?

I’m trying to suggest that jacking the manager might not be as simple an improvement as some suggest.

That it is a gamble, and I think a bit of context and respect is due for ‘s time here.

 

“YoU mEan A CoNtrAcT FoR LiFe!?!?”

[rigger]

4 minutes ago, Wood26 said:

We are 8th, 2 places out of our goal, with a way to go. I get it, we are frustrating as hell, but let him finish season, if we dont make it, change it in summer. 

It 's not about position in the league. It's the abject performances that we are producing that is the problem.

[simongarnerisgod]

1 minute ago, West Yorks Rover said:

I'm seriously beginning to think that Mowbray is just as bad as Steve Kean, something very dodgy about

this club.

im`e not having that,kean was a louse with an ego the size of jupiter,at least mowbray is a decent person just had his time here and now he should resign before he embarrases himself with kean like comments he`s started to come up with

[SBlue]

1 minute ago, Ewood Ace said:

Yet you seemingly want their most recent appointment here for at least as long as they are.

There’s a fucking time warp on here where TM came in when we were a PL club or even a competitor in this league.

 

No matter whether you think he should go or not - if you think he hasn’t done a great job for us then you need some fresh air.

[Ewood Ace]

Just now, S8 & Blue said:

No matter whether you think he should go or not - if you think he hasn’t done a great job for us then you need some fresh air.

He's done a decent job. A great job is rather an exaggeration. 

[Wood26]

1 minute ago, rigger said:

It 's not about position in the league. It's the abject performances that we are producing that is the problem.

Agreed performances are not good. I dont think someone new will come in and get us up this season, so happy to wait until summer.

Even if we did go up, look at the state of us, the team would get murdered unless heavy investment.

[Ghost7]

So we should forever accept mediocracy and underachievement because of a greater fear instilled by our owners that "things could be a lot worse"? This seems to be largely the reason some fans have left for keeping Mowbray in charge. Definitely not an idea I can get behind.

Edited February 12, 2021 by Ghost7

[Ewood Ace]

16 minutes ago, Wood26 said:

Give Mowbray the season, he deserves it, and see where we end up.

People been saying that to me for the last 2 years and we are still stuck in mid table and going no where with him.

[Blue blood]

Put it this way. Not even Coyle or he who should not be named ever played a centre forward at right back. Just saying. 

To clarify I am not saying he is as bad as them but when he makes errors they don't you worry about his competence. 

Can't remember many managers allowing players to decide whether they are fit. 

Look at Buckley also being right back. Elliott as a false 9. These are all mistakes an 11 year old wouldn't make.

I've seen hundreds of line ups on this board from those who hugely support the manager to those who are perhaps never happy. And never once has any of these players in these positions been suggested. What does that say about the manager? Are we all wrong or is it so stupid that no one else would do it? 

It's a clear sign he has lost the plot. Whatever he has or hasn't done these kind of decisions show he has run his term. 

 

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, Ewood Ace said:

People been saying that to me for the last 2 years and we are still stuck in mid table and going no where with him.

We're actually going backwards.

[SBlue]

2 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

He's done a decent job. A great job is rather an exaggeration. 

Fair. 
 

TBH I couldn’t see us being in this situation for YEARS when he took the job. We were fucked.

 

Maybe YOU are the positive happy clapper 😂

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Mowbray says Rovers were unrecognisable in Preston defeat | Lancashire Telegraph

“The team know the way we play, they know the expectations of the club and the manager, they have to go out and do it and they didn’t for long spells,” the manager said.

“The second half, the last half an hour anyway, was much of a team that I recognise, but I can’t accept watching and being a manager of a team that plays in the way that we did in the first half.  It’s not on and what we’re about and hasn’t been this season. That was my frustration with them.”

That quote sums up his character. We've played like that most of the season, especially 1st half as the stats prove. To say otherwise confirms he's an incredibly disingenuous individual, the total opposite of someone who is honest and trustworthy. 

[booth]

1 minute ago, Ewood Ace said:

He's done a decent job. A great job is rather an exaggeration. 

A decent job followed by his lobotomy in the Summer of 2019.

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Useless. I'm genuinely embarrassed to be Blackburn Rovers fan with Mowbray in charge. All my mates now taking the piss too.

Thats a massive overreaction. Understandable emotionally driven frustration, but embarassed? Behave.

26 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

Avoided this place during the poor form because I got tired of being one of the few contrary voices.

Call me an idiot (almost feel like one with how shit some of this has been) but I still am happy for him to stay.

 

Reason?

The owners and pretty much every single thing since they came in.

 

The rebuild job TM has done - 

The solidity, the stability, the focus on youth and sustainability, the integration of the academy, the INTEGRITY, and the squad that he has assembled (and PLEASE check our net spend I’m sick of hearing he’s had bucket loads of cash for our level)

 

We know that it is easily lost.

It is easily thrown away.

 

Are there even any solid suggestions for a successor?

 

I trust TM. He might not be the most exciting, or some tactical genius that can piss the championship (no one is). 
 

But at least it’s about the football with him.

 

Lots to lose.

But still a dice that is hot in the hand and tempting to throw right now.

Most of those reasons are just buzzwords.

The net spend is more than competitive, over 15m. Are we going forward, is there a plan or do his tactics and subs resemble chaos?

If the main reason to stick is fear then thats not one that paints the manager in a favourable light and surely is one that will never ever change.

[SBlue]

4 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

So we should forever accept mediocracy and underachievement because of a greater fear instilled by our owner's that "things could be a lot worse"? This seems to be largely the reason some fans have left for keeping Mowbray in charge. It's definitely not an idea you should have to get behind as a football fan.

You seem to be looking at it from the “We are and should easily be a PL team” side of things...

Whereas I look at it as “We were in L1 and looked like we were sinking further”

 

In context of the other clubs in this league, how competitive it is, and the complete clusterfuck he inherited...

Are we underachieving? Really?

 

I’ll have a better idea at the end of the season.

[Wood26]

3 minutes ago, darrenrover said:

Mowbray apologists, question for you:

Is there any truth in the rumour that you do split shifts?

1. Statistical analysis

2. Social Media coverage

Now justify yourselves.

WE ARE ROVERS diehards, BRFC means everything to us. Just do the honourable thing and disappear from whence you came, you parasites.

You can earn £2 an hour elsewhere.

I dont do any statistical analysis or social media on Rovers.

I got a season ticket this season knowing unlikely i will get to go to a game. 

I know we aren't playing well, I am annoyed as you, I just dont mind him seeing season out and changing in summer.

If that makes me a parasite then okay mate. 

[booth]

32 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

The rebuild job TM has done - 

The solidity, the stability, the focus on youth and sustainability, the integration of the academy, the INTEGRITY, and the squad that he has assembled (and PLEASE check our net spend I’m sick of hearing he’s had bucket loads of cash for our level)

We've got one striker worth anything, around 1000 midfielders and a consistently terrible defense.