Tony Mowbray Discussion

[roverstdt]

Not quite sure what Rovers fans expect, realistically, we do not have the finances for a Pearson or a Hughes so how we would get them is more FM21 rather than reality. 

The question we should all be asking ourselves is are we better than Watford, Brentford, Bournemouth, Swansea, Norwich? No we are not, the only one I see us still finishing ahead of is Reading but we are not the finished article yet. We have barely had the same back four...We need to continue building we don't deserve to go up but we should target it. 

[rigger]

52 minutes ago, roverstdt said:

Not quite sure what Rovers fans expect, realistically, we do not have the finances for a Pearson or a Hughes so how we would get them is more FM21 rather than reality. 

The question we should all be asking ourselves is are we better than Watford, Brentford, Bournemouth, Swansea, Norwich? No we are not, the only one I see us still finishing ahead of is Reading but we are not the finished article yet. We have barely had the same back four...We need to continue building we don't deserve to go up but we should target it. 

The question should be. Why aren't we better than Watford, Brentford, Bournemouth, Swansea and Norwich 

[Richard Oakley]

56 minutes ago, roverstdt said:

Not quite sure what Rovers fans expect, realistically, we do not have the finances for a Pearson or a Hughes so how we would get them is more FM21 rather than reality. 

The question we should all be asking ourselves is are we better than Watford, Brentford, Bournemouth, Swansea, Norwich? No we are not, the only one I see us still finishing ahead of is Reading but we are not the finished article yet. We have barely had the same back four...We need to continue building we don't deserve to go up but we should target it. 

We have had Kaminski, Nyambe, Lenihan and Douglas since the near the beginning of the season Why did they look like they'd never played together against Preston?

Yes, we or rather Venkys, do have the finances for a Pearson or a Hughes.

Mowbray looked like he was finished, last Friday.

[booth]

1 hour ago, roverstdt said:

Not quite sure what Rovers fans expect, realistically, we do not have the finances for a Pearson or a Hughes so how we would get them is more FM21 rather than reality. 

The question we should all be asking ourselves is are we better than Watford, Brentford, Bournemouth, Swansea, Norwich? No we are not, the only one I see us still finishing ahead of is Reading but we are not the finished article yet. We have barely had the same back four...We need to continue building we don't deserve to go up but we should target it. 

A manager with a plan, who can organise a defense and play players in their most suited positions. And not waste ridiculous amounts of money.

Is that too much to ask in 2021?

[booth]

1 hour ago, rigger said:

The question should be. Why aren't we better than Watford, Brentford, Bournemouth, Swansea and Norwich 

Mic drop.

[G Somerset Rover]

He’ll sit down if he wants thank you very much: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19094602.mowbray-explains-lack-touchline-presence-preston/

[SoldierMo]

Just read that very very touchy

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

2 hours ago, roverstdt said:

Not quite sure what Rovers fans expect, realistically, we do not have the finances for a Pearson or a Hughes so how we would get them is more FM21 rather than reality. 

The question we should all be asking ourselves is are we better than Watford, Brentford, Bournemouth, Swansea, Norwich? No we are not, the only one I see us still finishing ahead of is Reading but we are not the finished article yet. We have barely had the same back four...We need to continue building we don't deserve to go up but we should target it. 

Bloody well better than what we are getting atm...including a Manager who looks and sounds like he gives a toss.l like most on here want to start believing in the Club again.

Dare we challenge the footballing behemoths of Swansea,Bournemouth et al...JHC!!

Edited February 16, 2021 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[chaddyrovers]

Mowbray on Rovers job security 

"That's the journey I keep talking about and the one I hope we can take Blackburn Rovers on. If people don't want that, that's OK. I'm just a football coach. I'm an employee of the club. I am a vision and an identity of where want to go.

If the club decides that somebody else is going to have that journey then that's fine. At this moment, we're doing our very, very best to try and win football matches.

Nobody sits there and thinks we don't want to win the next match - we want to win every game. And yet the reality is that is really difficult in this league."

Tony Mowbray on the impact of Blackburn Rovers performances, intensity issues and job security - LancsLive

[Ewood Ace]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Mowbray on Rovers job security 

"That's the journey I keep talking about and the one I hope we can take Blackburn Rovers on. If people don't want that, that's OK. I'm just a football coach. I'm an employee of the club. I am a vision and an identity of where want to go.

If the club decides that somebody else is going to have that journey then that's fine. At this moment, we're doing our very, very best to try and win football matches.

Nobody sits there and thinks we don't want to win the next match - we want to win every game. And yet the reality is that is really difficult in this league."

Tony Mowbray on the impact of Blackburn Rovers performances, intensity issues and job security - LancsLive

Still wittering on about his F-ing journey.

[JHRover]

2 hours ago, roverstdt said:

Not quite sure what Rovers fans expect, realistically, we do not have the finances for a Pearson or a Hughes so how we would get them is more FM21 rather than reality. 

The question we should all be asking ourselves is are we better than Watford, Brentford, Bournemouth, Swansea, Norwich? No we are not, the only one I see us still finishing ahead of is Reading but we are not the finished article yet. We have barely had the same back four...We need to continue building we don't deserve to go up but we should target it. 

Sigh.

How do you know we don't have the finances for those managers? We are losing £15 million a year, so how can we not have room in there to employ a good management team?

Its like owning a mansion and paying £2000 a month on your mortgage but not having the finance to put the heating on or repair the roof when it starts to leak. It makes no sense because longer term it will cost more to continue.

Hughes and Pearson are two well known options. Both are unemployed and facing the managerial scrapheap unless they get back to work and quickly. Neither have the clout these days to wait for a PL job because they aren't going to get one. The Championship is the best they can hope for.

Personally I'd go elsewhere because I don’t think either would be ideal options for us. Neither have assembled promotion winning sides recently although both are better than Mowbray and have accomplished more than him in their management careers.

I'd be looking more towards an up and comer like Cowley, Neil, Rowett or failing that overseas like Brentford and Barnsley have done well. No baggage, on their way up in the game.

Presumably we couldn't afford any of those even though we could pay them more than £0 or whatever PNE/Millwall are doing. 

The 'building' is just a myth. Half the senior players are out of contract in 4 months time, our top goalscorer is likely to be sold and our defence is built on loans. It is time a different manager 'built' in the summer window.

I know what the next excuse will be. Once we've lost all these players and sold Armstrong it will be all about reinvesting and giving it time to settle. It never ends.

[JHRover]

Mowbray thought our first half v Preston was unrecognisable? Really? 

I thought it was all too familiar. Sh1te for the most part after the first 10 minutes. The only difference was we actually managed a goal for once thanks to the penalty, but then again we conceded 2 which cancelled it out. Usually we go in at half time 0.

The only home game this season i don't think we've been rubbish in the first half has been Wycombe. Anyone suggest any other decent first halves at home?

[G Somerset Rover]

4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Mowbray thought our first half v Preston was unrecognisable? Really? 

He comes out with the ‘unrecognisable’ guff at least once during every death spiral. 

Edited February 16, 2021 by Gavlar Somerset Rover!

[rigger]

2 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

He comes out with the ‘unrecognisable’ guff at least once during every death spiral. 

A decent manager would recognise that there is a problem. And fix it.

[AllRoverAsia]

2 hours ago, roverstdt said:

Not quite sure what Rovers fans expect, realistically, we do not have the finances for a Pearson or a Hughes so how we would get them is more FM21 rather than reality. 

The question we should all be asking ourselves is are we better than Watford, Brentford, Bournemouth, Swansea, Norwich? No we are not, the only one I see us still finishing ahead of is Reading but we are not the finished article yet. We have barely had the same back four...We need to continue building we don't deserve to go up but we should target it. 

When was it that you started following Rovers?

[Crimpshrine]

2 hours ago, roverstdt said:

Not quite sure what Rovers fans expect, realistically, we do not have the finances for a Pearson or a Hughes so how we would get them is more FM21 rather than reality. 

The question we should all be asking ourselves is are we better than Watford, Brentford, Bournemouth, Swansea, Norwich? No we are not, the only one I see us still finishing ahead of is Reading but we are not the finished article yet. We have barely had the same back four...We need to continue building we don't deserve to go up but we should target it. 

Rovers fans, like fans of all clubs, expect the owners to show some interest. It's not too much to ask.

If Venky's want a top manager they they can afford one.

Kenny Dalglish didn't turn up one day and ask if we had any jobs going. We had an owner who knew what he wanted and paid what was required.

[Blue blood]

3 hours ago, roverstdt said:

Not quite sure what Rovers fans expect, realistically, we do not have the finances for a Pearson or a Hughes so how we would get them is more FM21 rather than reality. 

 

I don't think it's the height of unreasonableness for Rovers fans to want a manager who doesn't make rediculous mistakes like playing a striker at right back. But then I could be being picky. 

[roversfan99]

2 hours ago, roverstdt said:

Not quite sure what Rovers fans expect, realistically, we do not have the finances for a Pearson or a Hughes so how we would get them is more FM21 rather than reality. 

The question we should all be asking ourselves is are we better than Watford, Brentford, Bournemouth, Swansea, Norwich? No we are not, the only one I see us still finishing ahead of is Reading but we are not the finished article yet. We have barely had the same back four...We need to continue building we don't deserve to go up but we should target it. 

Firstly, we dont know if those managers are realistic or unaffordable, neither are at the peak of their managerial reputation, we can only speculate. We was repeatedly told that Hughton was never going to settle for a Championship club before joining Forest. But of course, as Barnsley, (working the other way, should they be on par with use considering their resources?) as Reading, as Brentford and as Swansea all prove, a bit of imagination when recruiting a manager can pay off, none of us have an excessive knowledge of managers across the world, hence the repeats of the same old names, but lets not pretend that no one is out there.

The constant inferiority complex does frustrate me because it is never an accurate picture. Swansea have had to use half a team of loans, they sold their main defender to Spurs, had to sell Celina, couldnt afford a new deal for Van Der Hoorn. Mowbray had had time, hes had money, no pressure to sell anyone, why cant we be competitive? Reading again you touch on, a new manager has turned them around. Brentford constantly sell their best players and work on a profit. Even Watford, is their wage bill much higher than ours? Of course it is, but its not a simple advantage, much of the budget is used up on unshiftable wasters like Gray and Deeney who dont contribute, a common occurrence as we know when we came down, we had a massive wage bill, much of it being sponged up by high earning rubbish.

Ultimately, if we can not compete with all of these supposed giants, why has our public aim for the last 2 seasons, one that we have not been competitive in reaching as of yet is to get into the top 6? Have you genuinely seen in the last 3 or 4 months, a manager who is building and progressing a team with clarity, with tactical consistency and with the knowhow to ever break into a serious conversation of being promotion contenders?

[AllRoverAsia]

21 hours ago, LDRover said:

My own personal favourite. 

But, no, he's never rated him. No sirreeeee

Investigative journalism at it's best. Well done!

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

He’ll sit down if he wants thank you very much: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19094602.mowbray-explains-lack-touchline-presence-preston/

To be fair, I dont think it matters. Each to their own, some successful managers take a back seat on a match day, whereas some shit managers jump around ranting and raving. I think it is understandable but just clutching at straws when people complain at things like that because the tactics/selections/subs etc much of which will be decided and worked on beforehand. People are fed up of the bizarre decisions in general and stuff like this is just used to try and further strengthen an already convincing point.

[K-Hod]

1 hour ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

He’ll sit down if he wants thank you very much: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19094602.mowbray-explains-lack-touchline-presence-preston/

It’s almost like he’s not being paid well to play a striker that he signed at right back....

[JHRover]

No problem at all if Mowbray wants to sit down during games. Alex Ferguson sat down most games, Steve Kean stood up all game and Owen Coyle running around like a dad at a 5 a side competition and it didn't do them any favours.

Trouble is Mowbray has changed. In earlier days he was a manager who prowled the touchline shouting at players, now he's making a conscious effort to move away from that and not stand up. I'm not sure its because he doesn't want to or its a natural occurrence rather a deliberate attempt or act by him, with motives unclear right now.

[AllRoverAsia]

1 hour ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

He’ll sit down if he wants thank you very much: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19094602.mowbray-explains-lack-touchline-presence-preston/

So the alleged use of a haemorrhoid cushion was fake news, glad all is ok down there 

Edited February 16, 2021 by AllRoverAsia

[simongarnerisgod]

what will it take to get tony out of his yogaesque position??

[Stuart]

1 hour ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

He’ll sit down if he wants thank you very much: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19094602.mowbray-explains-lack-touchline-presence-preston/

What absolute bullshit.

Our last four performances have been abysmal. If he thinks that 45 minutes against PNE is just a blip then he is either a fool, in denial, or trying to send a message t’ th’owners.

He must surely be under pressure from somebody at the club because the fans aren’t even there to show their disapproval. There would have been comprehensive booing at full time on Friday and he got away with one there.

We need a win tomorrow to keep up appearances and we need a big performance to show that there is still a heartbeat under those blue and white shirts.