Tony Mowbray Discussion

[AllRoverAsia]

28 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Then you hear Nixon say 'well protected'....

Wonder if Waggot has any connection to this lot as well ?

Andy Cole would know re Swag

Edit: Posted before I saw the post by @arbitro about Swag and Cole

Edited February 17, 2021 by AllRoverAsia

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

13 minutes ago, roverandout said:

I haven't posted on here for nearly 2 years but some of the delusional comments on Lancashire telegraph on his 28 game 'journey' tripe, really has my blood boiling. Are some people really that gullible? 

There are some aspects that do ring true - but it really just comes across as excuses from a manager under pressure.

Edited February 17, 2021 by DavidMailsTightPerm

[roversfan99]

As mentioned elsewhere, absolutely crazy to imply that numerous years dont count towards his journey. He mentions dependence on Dack and in particular Graham, last season the former got injured and the latter started 14 times, a few right at the end. Also and crucially, there is no signs that there is any consistency, clarity or progress on this "possession based journey," if anything we seem to be getting worse and worse.

10 hours ago, roverstdt said:

I agree with you but would you trust the owners, the CEO to bring someone who could?

If that is prime reasoning, then you are accepting that Mowbray doesnt deserve to carry on.

But it isnt a valid defence for me, and I hate Venkys and distrust them as much as anyone. Such a mentality of living in fear and thus accepting mediocrity is at best just kicking the problem a year or two down the line.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

16 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Only a small group of people in India, I would suggest right now.

Have you read the LT comments? There's still a silly few who hang on his every word. 

[booth]

3 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Have you read the LT comments? There's still a silly few who hang on his every word. 

Plenty on Facebook who can't wait to jump on anyone who politely think Mowbray has done his best and time to move on. Some overseas and young adults who think they can abuse people who have been going to Ewood for 40-50 years.

[davulsukur]

15 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Have you read the LT comments? There's still a silly few who hang on his every word. 

Nar, I stopped reading those comments a long time ago.

[tomphil]

He spent 12 million pounds to cover for the eventual DG departure and probable Dack one. He said as much himself a couple of years ago, he's failed badly there, we are still faffing about with the full back positions and plugging holes in the center of defense !

The absolute only real positive thing he's got right recently is the keeper. Credited his recruitment team with that one, if it that hadn't worked out we'd probably be looking at Pears as his number 1.

Rest of the team is still just mix and match constantly the same as it has been since it became clear the lge 1 promotion side wouldn't prosper in this div. If i thought for one min he was close to dropping on something good and sticking to it i'd cut him some slack.

All i see is another 2 or 3 years like that last, not a disaster but not going anywhere. Unfortunately the departures WILL start at some point then it's a whole new ball game again. 

[Tom]

More absolute nonsense, it really feels we are in the last knockings of his reign here and he’s going on the defensive.

I’ve no doubt though we’ll scrape a lucky win tonight and Twitter will resume with the ‘where’s the Mowbray out mob now?’  BAU

[chaddyrovers]

13 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Hes one of the first names on the team sheet regardless simply because we dont have another competent right back at the club and never have in Mowbrays side. Some of the players he has stuck there recently beggars belief. Hes also a huge prospect seemingly wherever he goes and the contract situation is piss poor. But he has been poor lately.

Yes the lack of right back to challenge Nyambe has been a problem we have been raise on here a number of times. 

Nyambe is huge prospect? he is 23 years old now. Surely he is too old to be prospect. 

We don't know what the contract problem has been between the club and Nyambe?  

12 hours ago, Parsonblue said:

Nyambe is probably the best defensive prospect that we have at the club.  He ought to be our right-back for the next 5 or 6 years or more.  He has all the attributes needed for that position but, sadly, I suspect he will be allowed to drift away from the club.  

Nyambe isn't a prospect anymore, he is 23 years old now. I ain't his biggest fan of Nyambe over the past of seasons. His defensive game isn't good enough still. Why this haven't improve over the last 2 seasons I don't know. I think we need a new right back

2 hours ago, Miller11 said:

We talk about people currently with HSH. To be honest we haven’t spent a great deal of time discussing our preferred replacements because I don’t believe Mowbray is under any pressure from Venky’s and won’t be going anywhere soon.

On air from 6pm - 7pm

https://roversradio.co.uk/listen-live

 

also worth noting we recorded yesterday afternoon before his latest interviews. There’d be some talking points with this latest nonsense.

Thanks Miller11. I don't know if he is under pressure from the Owners for sure but his comments today, suggest he is under pressure from someone. 

1 hour ago, AllRoverAsia said:

He also claims in that article that he doesn't study other teams.

I do believe that.

This is so like a re-run of what he and his mates got up to at Coventry where he did a runner a couple of days before the axe.

So if he doesn't study other teams why did he play Armstrong against Dickie in wide forward role with Elliott as false 9 role against QPR? 

52 minutes ago, TheKitGuy said:

Anyone else want a Bilic or Jokanovic type, Eastern European hard nut who won't take anything less than 110% 

Bilic has just gone to China and Jokanovic is managing in the middle East where they both be on massive money contracts. 

I think a younger British manager would be the way to go if we need a replacement

10 hours ago, roverstdt said:

I agree with you but would you trust the owners, the CEO to bring someone who could?

If we want a new manager/head coach would Cheston be in charge of bring in the new person or would that do by other none Rovers related people like an agent or Pasha?

[booth]

I'm a bit behind. Did he really say he didn't believe in formations?

[Tom]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yes the lack of right back to challenge Nyambe has been a problem we have been raise on here a number of times. 

Nyambe is huge prospect? he is 23 years old now. Surely he is too old to be prospect. 

We don't know what the contract problem has been between the club and Nyambe?  

Nyambe isn't a prospect anymore, he is 23 years old now. I ain't his biggest fan of Nyambe over the past of seasons. His defensive game isn't good enough still. Why this haven't improve over the last 2 seasons I don't know. I think we need a new right back

 

You are right we do need a new right back.

Because a bloody good championship one is about to leave for nothing!

Plus players can keep improving after 23, even if he didn’t he’s far far from a weak link

 

I remember your criticism of him previously is he is good defensively but not in an attacking sense, now he’s not good enough at the back

Edited February 17, 2021 by Tom

[Tom]

2 minutes ago, booth said:

I'm a bit behind. Did he really say he didn't believe in formations?

Yes on sky sports pre game on Friday, words where akin to ‘I’m not big on formations’

[Blue blood]

Aside from anything else, even if we buy his change fairytale, it's a lie. Graham hardly played last season, Dack was out for half of it so we never really played the Dack-Graham combo last season at all. 

Incidentally it's managerial genius to use both the presence and absence of Dack as excuses at the same time. 

Get rid. No integrity. No progress. No clue. 

[booth]

2 minutes ago, Tom said:

Yes on sky sports pre game on Friday, words where akin to ‘I’m not big on formations’

He's lost the plot.

[Blue blood]

2 minutes ago, Tom said:

Yes on sky sports pre game on Friday, words where akin to ‘I’m not big on formations’

Stackable in itself. 

Although given how many we go through he could have fooled me. 

[Ewood Ace]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Nyambe isn't a prospect anymore, he is 23 years old now. I ain't his biggest fan of Nyambe over the past of seasons. His defensive game isn't good enough still. Why this haven't improve over the last 2 seasons I don't know. I think we need a new right back

He's the best defender at the club by a mile. The only reason that you aren't a big fan is because your dear leader regularly uses him as a scapegoat and you know that he isn't going to sign a new contract, so when he goes for a pittance of what he is worth you can continue to defend the dear leader. 

[Tom]

Remember a bit before Bowyer left his demeanour changed, talked of fans coming out from under their rocks, Big Sam referred to himself as an expert in face of criticism.

Mowbray is changing his tone. I wonder if he finally feels under pressure?

[RoversClitheroe]

2 minutes ago, Tom said:

Remember a bit before Bowyer left his demeanour changed, talked of fans coming out from under their rocks, Big Sam referred to himself as an expert in face of criticism.

Mowbray is changing his tone. I wonder if he finally feels under pressure?

Hope he feels a lot of pressure and leaves our great club. I just don't like him anymore think he's tarnishing his rep and he's becoming poison to the club.

Get him out of here asap.

Hopefully if we do lose tonight he's gone.

[AllRoverAsia]

13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

So if he doesn't study other teams why did he play Armstrong against Dickie in wide forward role with Elliott as false 9 role against QPR? 

I was being sarcastic about yet another Mowbray lie. I had hoped it would have been obvious.

[chaddyrovers]

8 minutes ago, Tom said:

You are right we do need a new right back.

Because a bloody good championship one is about to leave for nothing!

Plus players can keep improving after 23, even if he didn’t he’s far far from a weak link

I don't see Nyambe has being in the best 6 rights backs in this league. 

Yes he can keep improving but his days of prospect are gone since he is 23 years old

4 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

He's the best defender at the club by a mile. The only reason that you aren't a big fan is because your dear leader regularly uses him as a scapegoat and you know that he isn't going to sign a new contract, so when he goes for a pittance of what he is worth you can continue to defend the dear leader. 

I disagree that he is our best defender by a mile. He has a problem with positional sense. It has cost us a few goals. 

We have a 12 months contract option which I expect Rovers will exercise. 

Where have a defend Mowbray today. I have posted my doubts on Nyambe for the past couple of seasons on here. 

[Ulrich]

16 minutes ago, Tom said:

More absolute nonsense, it really feels we are in the last knockings of his reign here and he’s going on the defensive.

I’ve no doubt though we’ll scrape a lucky win tonight and Twitter will resume with the ‘where’s the Mowbray out mob now?’  BAU

Barnsley are doing very well at the moment, my head says we will have a hard night to get all 3bpoints and I am not sure our players are up to it, on present form.

I hope he is under pressure, he should be, both from within the club and India. He is failing by his own standards and does not appear capable enough to turn matters around. We will see.

[Darwen Rover 007]

I think his comments today indicate that he is under pressure.. God I hope this is true and this is the start of his farewell journey! 

The man is and always will be middle of the road 

[Tom]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I don't see Nyambe has being in the best 6 rights backs in this league. 

Yes he can keep improving but his days of prospect are gone since he is 23 years old

I disagree that he is our best defender by a mile. He has a problem with positional sense. It has cost us a few goals. 

We have a 12 months contract option which I expect Rovers will exercise. 

Where have a defend Mowbray today. I have posted my doubts on Nyambe for the past couple of seasons on here. 

Going by the same argument that people use to justify keeping Mowbray

When Nyambe leaves who do you bring in to be one of the best 6 right backs in the league then with the budget we are likely to have?

[47er]

3 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Phew, only 28 games in! I was getting worried for a few years there.

Right, so now he claims we are only just building our "identity" and the last few seasons were just to consolidate our position.

This is literally, the slowest build ever.

I'm not sure exactly what kind of identity we are trying to build now? We have very little shape, organisation and the players often look like they just met in the car park before kick off.

They built the pyramids quicker than this!

(Mind you, Tony wasn't on that job!)

[RoversClitheroe]

10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I don't see Nyambe has being in the best 6 rights backs in this league. 

Yes he can keep improving but his days of prospect are gone since he is 23 years old

I disagree that he is our best defender by a mile. He has a problem with positional sense. It has cost us a few goals. 

We have a 12 months contract option which I expect Rovers will exercise. 

Where have a defend Mowbray today. I have posted my doubts on Nyambe for the past couple of seasons on here. 

I completely disagree with every single sentence in this post.