Tony Mowbray Discussion

[chaddyrovers]

  On 03/03/2021 at 15:35, davulsukur said:

UK time i'm guessing?

We are in the sacking zone now then.

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Yes

[Bigdoggsteel]

  On 03/03/2021 at 15:40, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

He genuinely sounds like he can't believe he hasn't been sacked yet - or at least shocked that he hasn't heard rumblings it's imminent. Welcome to a club being run by Indian chicken farmers who don't give a fuck Tony, this is how this place works. Makes me sick to my stomach. 

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I got the same impression 

[Wovers]

  On 03/03/2021 at 15:43, davulsukur said:

I reckon, providing he pulls out enough wins to get us safe this season (which i personally doubt) Venkys won't even consider binning him.

So he could very well be here next season. I think if we hit the bottom 3, Venky's would pull the trigger (with it being too late)

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Possibly pal, give up hoping he will go.

[gumboots]

  On 03/03/2021 at 15:27, chaddyrovers said:

Bowyer was sacked on a Monday night after 6pm..we played Brentford at home and drew 1-1

Coyle was sacked on Tuesday afternoon.after 3pm after we played Man Utd at home in FA Cup

 

 

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But Mowbray is still here!

[roverandout]

  On 03/03/2021 at 16:00, gumboots said:

But Mowbray is still here!

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Yep

[chaddyrovers]

  On 03/03/2021 at 16:00, gumboots said:

But Mowbray is still here!

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I answered a question posed by @RoversClitheroe

[rigger]

  On 03/03/2021 at 14:58, RoversClitheroe said:

What time have managers been sacked at in the past?

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Far too late !

[RoversClitheroe]

Reckon the social team are making a video or something with a cheeky "5 minute warning 🛑" Mowbray 3 year extension due to being an honourable bloke.

[SuperBrfc]

  On 03/03/2021 at 15:27, chaddyrovers said:

 

Coyle was sacked on Tuesday afternoon.after 3pm after we played Man Utd at home in FA Cup

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I wonder if losing to United 'shames' the owners into taking action? If I remember rightly, Allardyce was sacked after a heavy defeat at Old Trafford. Coyle was sacked after the FA Cup defeat to United. There's plenty of United fans in India, maybe even among Balaji's group of friends for him to lose face on those occasions.

Could just be a coincidence, I suppose. I'm just wondering what the heck it will take for them to do something.

[windymiller7]

Can you imagine letting Bruno Fernandez loose against our current midfield! 🤣

Anyway, he's not going is he? Yeay, Millwall defeat to look forward to now.

[PeteJD13]

He’s not going anywhere yet maybe a few more losses but he went sympathy vote on sky, then in-house how unlucky we are. So he’s tried to shift the narrative whilst having a dig at fans 

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

  On 03/03/2021 at 13:43, Mike E said:

I'm always quick, just ask Mrs. E!

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Can confirm. 

[Gone to seed]

  On 03/03/2021 at 16:19, SuperBrfc said:

I wonder if losing to United 'shames' the owners into taking action? If I remember rightly, Allardyce was sacked after a heavy defeat at Old Trafford. Coyle was sacked after the FA Cup defeat to United. There's plenty of United fans in India, maybe even among Balaji's group of friends for him to lose face on those occasions.

Could just be a coincidence, I suppose. I'm just wondering what the heck it will take for them to do something.

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Please can we have a whip round, and organise a snap game against United? That's what I would call 'Crowd Funding' with a purpose...

Better times, I'm afraid 😉

Edited March 3, 2021 by WIR Second Coming

[yellowsubmarine]

Good night from Asia here. Hopefully tomorrow will be a new beginning.

[PeteJD13]

  On 03/03/2021 at 17:07, yellowsubmarine said:

Good night from Asia here. Hopefully tomorrow will be a new beginning.

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If that new beginning is Mowbray continuing to oversee our slide down the table then, that’s our new beginning 

[Wovers]

  On 03/03/2021 at 16:37, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Can confirm. 

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Mr E’s wife is a dingle, they grew up with quick.

[SuperBrfc]

  On 03/03/2021 at 16:26, windymiller7 said:

Can you imagine letting Bruno Fernandez loose against our current midfield! 🤣

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I don't know what would be worse, the inevitable drubbing or the sympathy from some of their fans afterwards.

I know a number of their fans who are sympathetic towards us these days. There's even a thread on one of their forums about Rovers with some saying they miss us and want us back in the Prem. I preferred it when they hated playing us.

[ben_the_beast]

Mowbrays recent comments about the owners needing a plan and if he isn't on the journey, not letting them throw it all away are odd. Does he have an eye on an upstairs, director of football type role...

If he did. My view is he wouldn't allow a manager to manage. I think he'd be sticking his oar in. He does love to talk football. He's a stubborn man as well. Too principled at times. I think he'd cause conflict. 

But.. at the same time. We feel a bit fucked. Venkys don't have a plan. As soon as Mowbray is gone the vultures will be circling to mug us off once again. Because the owners still don't have a clue what they are doing. The perfect situation of a proper set up is never going to happen. Having a person with football experience in place at director level in Mowbray, even though I'm sure it would come with conflicts and challenges could be the next best scenario.

I'm not a fan of this as I'm typing it. But. Like I said. In my opinion we really are a bit fucked.

[ElTwis]

I realise this is an unpopular viewpoint but I actually think TM in an executive role of some sort might not be the worst thing. He clearly holds the trust of the owners and its clear that lines of communication back to India are flawed to say the least. I've never met him but his reputation seems based around honesty so would it be such a bad thing having him on the ground with a new manager in place? 

 

Obviously it would depend on exactly what his role might be, a new manager needs autonomy and what's seen as a traditional DOF role might not be the best fit but considering we're an unusual club maybe theres room for an unusual role. I'm envisaging someone who understands the game in this country and can present clearly to the owners what's happening and what it means whilst leaving the decision making to the new manager. 

[ElTwis]

  On 03/03/2021 at 18:00, ben_the_beast said:

Mowbrays recent comments about the owners needing a plan and if he isn't on the journey, not letting them throw it all away are odd. Does he have an eye on an upstairs, director of football type role...

If he did. My view is he wouldn't allow a manager to manage. I think he'd be sticking his oar in. He does love to talk football. He's a stubborn man as well. Too principled at times. I think he'd cause conflict. 

But.. at the same time. We feel a bit fucked. Venkys don't have a plan. As soon as Mowbray is gone the vultures will be circling to mug us off once again. Because the owners still don't have a clue what they are doing. The perfect situation of a proper set up is never going to happen. Having a person with football experience in place at director level in Mowbray, even though I'm sure it would come with conflicts and challenges could be the next best scenario.

I'm not a fan of this as I'm typing it. But. Like I said. In my opinion we really are a bit fucked.

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Ah, pretty much what Ben said! 

[martonrover]

  On 03/03/2021 at 18:14, ElTwis said:

I realise this is an unpopular viewpoint but I actually think TM in an executive role of some sort might not be the worst thing. He clearly holds the trust of the owners and its clear that lines of communication back to India are flawed to say the least. I've never met him but his reputation seems based around honesty so would it be such a bad thing having him on the ground with a new manager in place? 

 

Obviously it would depend on exactly what his role might be, a new manager needs autonomy and what's seen as a traditional DOF role might not be the best fit but considering we're an unusual club maybe theres room for an unusual role. I'm envisaging someone who understands the game in this country and can present clearly to the owners what's happening and what it means whilst leaving the decision making to the new manager. 

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For me, you need an experienced football executive, not an ex-manager who will no doubt want to stick his oar in all the time. That would put a lot of potential candidates off.

[windymiller7]

  On 03/03/2021 at 18:38, martonrover said:

For me, you need an experienced football executive, not an ex-manager who will no doubt want to stick his oar in all the time. That would put a lot of potential candidates off.

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Edited March 3, 2021 by windymiller7
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[RV Blue]

The only thing I can think of that’s worse than Mowbray being the manager is Mowbray being a director, put that shite idea right in the bin.

[chaddyrovers]

  On 03/03/2021 at 11:27, ElTwis said:

The feeling from the coaches in the club is "I'm not sure how long he'll last". That's a direct quote so read into it what you will! 

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Thanks for sharing 

[tomphil]

Trouble with Mowbray going upstairs is it'll have to be his man in place below him, same as above him.  Think it sounds like he's hinting at that with his don't throw it all away comments. What he really means is don't sack all my staff and start again with someone else if i go.

That means Venus fly trap in the bosses chair - just look at him on the touchline with TM back seat driving at times this season.  Or failing that Johnson, who would be Tony' puppet. Then he'd have to find another pointless role for Mark.

He has us by the nuts whichever way you look at it, the man has been struck by Tony Blairs god complex i can see it now.