Tony Mowbray Discussion

[USABlue]

7 hours ago, 1864roverite said:

It’s now Thursday not a chance they will pot him today with a game on Saturday!

Yes unlikely but putting DJ in charge would afford a little continuity and I sincerely believe we'd see a massive new manager bounce.

[USABlue]

I had read on here sometime back that one of the Venkies bloodline was a game attending fan.  This had given me hope that word would get to them about how bad we are with Gobray in charge.  Sadly not the case, if it is they clearly are happy for him to carry on.

[Stuart]

4 hours ago, pedrob2014 said:

I had been willing to give Mowbray more time until this last couple of weeks when some of the things he has been saying have you just been truly bizarre..

 

the worst comment has to be that after the Reading game we have sat down and had a chat about how we can get more people into the box...… You mean it has taken 33 games to realise we don't get enough men in the box

Oddly there was a stat that we have the most or (second most) touches in the box. Maybe they are all Armstrong.

Getting people in the box is usually a sign of direct football so some thoughts:

- we don’t have any deadball specialists (Downing?)

- we don’t have any crossers of the ball (Nyambe)

- we don’t have any headers of the ball (Gallagher?)

- Mowbray’s only attribute that he clings to us his style of play, preferring (ineffective) possession over (aggricultural) long balls

Just imagine if he decides that to keep us up he has to become more like Warnock, Big Sam or Pulis! Oh the irony!!

Let’s Just hope it keeps us up...

[DeeCee]

Worst case scenario, we go down and TM and SW, MV still here next season.

I'm on suicide watch.

[JHRover]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

I said this last week that Cheston and Slivester could run the club until a new CEO is appoint by the owners. 

Cheston has been at the club for 7 years now and Slivester has been here for over 8 years now. Both experience footballing people. 

I'm not sure I'd credit either as being 'football people'. Both are experienced by virtue of the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers under this ownership, not because they are exceptional at what they do. The club allowed Dave Biggar, Alan Myers and Derek Shaw to depart and failed to replace any of them, leaving Cheston and Silvester as the last remaining 'board' members on the ground at Ewood. They allowed that status quo to continue for well over a year until Mowbray told them to put Waggott in.

During that time the club drifted along in a zombie like state, existing but doing little more than that. Bizarrely Cheston seems to have ended up with the job of identifying Lambert's replacement and supposedly interviewed luminaries such as Russell Slade, Neil Redfearn and Warren Joyce along the way. To be expected when it's an accountant leading the search. 

So yes the club could probably continue to function on a day to day basis administratively without Waggott but it really is unacceptable for a club of this size. They want their 'manager' to do it all and not have suits in the boardroom who know anything rocking the boat.

[Rogerb]

Jack Dowling fitness coach for academy at Everton has joined rovers first team set up according to Liverpool echo. Thirty plus games in we now decide to improve fitness!

[Sparks Rover]

56 minutes ago, USABlue said:

one of the Venkies 

Hey Hey

[JHRover]

13 minutes ago, Rogerb said:

Jack Dowling fitness coach for academy at Everton has joined rovers first team set up according to Liverpool echo. Thirty plus games in we now decide to improve fitness!

Think he's just a replacement for the outgoing Chris Rush.

[Wovers]

8 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Think he's just a replacement for the outgoing Chris Rush.

Hmmm I bet he was in a “rush” after doing such a shit job here.

[Elvis Biro]

7 hours ago, Giant said:

The India v. India one day series will also be held in Pune at the back end of March after the test and T20 games, so don’t expect our owners to be too bothered about BRFC with all this cricket on.

India V India? I'm definitely having a bet on that!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 minutes ago, Elvis Biro said:

India V India? I'm definitely having a bet on that!

Yeah me too, I'm backing India, how about you ?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, Sparks Rover said:

Hey Hey

" Hey hey we're the Venkies, and we're still hanging around

We've backed Tony Mowbray, so don't go putting him down ".

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, Rogerb said:

Jack Dowling fitness coach for academy at Everton has joined rovers first team set up according to Liverpool echo. Thirty plus games in we now decide to improve fitness!

 

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

Think he's just a replacement for the outgoing Chris Rush.

Liam Mason who was under Chris Rush in the fitness department has taken on the lead fitness coaching role with Dowling coming in under him

[matt83]

So the understudy of the guy running the department arguably responsible for the poor conditioning of players is now the main man. A classic rovers downgrade. 

[JHRover]

4 minutes ago, matt83 said:

So the understudy of the guy running the department arguably responsible for the poor conditioning of players is now the main man. A classic rovers downgrade. 

Prevailing attitude at the club over the last 5 years+ has been why bother bringing an external candidate in when an existing one can step up.

Not so simple in football. And we wonder why we are in the state we are.

[matt83]

Just now, JHRover said:

Prevailing attitude at the club over the last 5 years+ has been why bother bringing an external candidate in when an existing one can step up.

Not so simple in football. And we wonder why we are in the state we are.

The Peter principle springs to mind. 

[RoversClitheroe]

46 minutes ago, matt83 said:

So the understudy of the guy running the department arguably responsible for the poor conditioning of players is now the main man. A classic rovers downgrade. 

Chris Rush is highly rated. Few mutual friends who know him rate him.

[matt83]

Just now, RoversClitheroe said:

Chris Rush is highly rated. Few mutual friends who know him rate him.

They may rate him but the results in terms of player conditioning (the sheer volume of muscle injuries) and general fitness tells a different tale. The former not necessarily his fault but can’t say I’ve been impressed by fitness levels either. Although this season we have stopped conceding late goals which I’m sure was purely fitness related. 

[chaddyrovers]

46 minutes ago, matt83 said:

They may rate him but the results in terms of player conditioning (the sheer volume of muscle injuries) and general fitness tells a different tale. The former not necessarily his fault but can’t say I’ve been impressed by fitness levels either. Although this season we have stopped conceding late goals which I’m sure was purely fitness related. 

Do you not think that the lack of proper rest time during the summer and proper five to six pre season has cost Rovers and other teams this season in terms of injuries and fitness. 

 

[gumboots]

Yes it has but its affected as you say, other teams as much as us, yet we are the team that look, whenever I watch them (which hasn't been very often I will admit) very lethargic and lacking in that spark you need to win games

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Do you not think that the lack of proper rest time during the summer and proper five to six pre season has cost Rovers and other teams this season in terms of injuries and fitness. 

 

It doesn't help when you sign players with a history of injury problems. We had two centre halves in Lenihan and Williams. Both have a history of missing games. So we sign Ayala, who is basically a sick note. We got really lucky with Wharton coming through. Centre half is a key position and we were nowhere near strong enough in that area and we still aren't.

Signing two kids was a ridiculous move when we needed a senior pro.

If we do get relegated this season it'll be because we were weak in the centre of defence more than any other single reason.

[47er]

22 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Do you not think that the lack of proper rest time during the summer and proper five to six pre season has cost Rovers and other teams this season in terms of injuries and fitness. 

 

Which other teams have 1 point from the last 21?

[rigger]

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It doesn't help when you sign players with a history of injury problems. We had two centre halves in Lenihan and Williams. Both have a history of missing games. So we sign Ayala, who is basically a sick note. We got really lucky with Wharton coming through. Centre half is a key position and we were nowhere near strong enough in that area and we still aren't.

Signing two kids was a ridiculous move when we needed a senior pro.

If we do get relegated this season it'll be because we were weak in the centre of defence more than any other single reason.

Mowbray

[Blue blood]

31 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Do you not think that the lack of proper rest time during the summer and proper five to six pre season has cost Rovers and other teams this season in terms of injuries and fitness. 

 

You could be right except for that excuse doesn't hold water for a fraction of our players. By fraction I mean a rather big fraction - Lenihen, Williams, Ayala, Evans, Johnson and Holtby. All injury prone before this year and Covid excuses. Add in Dack was a carry on from last season injury wise and it's a poor excuse to hide behind. 

[RevidgeBlue]

11 hours ago, den9112 said:

That is closer to the truth than you know...😉

What, by Tony?