Tony Mowbray Discussion

[RevidgeBlue]

20 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

A bit like Mr. Waggott "believing" that a space restricted new site could meet Cat 1 Academy Regulations.

Not a lot of evidence to back up either claim though is there? 

[DE.]

1 win since the end of January, 13 games, and he thinks we'll win enough games not to be concerned? Proper head in the sand stuff. I think we'll scrape enough points to survive but to be in that position from where we were is horrific. Mowbray's blasé nature about the whole thing is even worse. He's shown himself to be a manager with little to no real ambition and unfortunately that will affect the players as well. I've said it time and time again but we need a winner in the dugout who genuinely cares and gets upset if his team fail to perform and fail to win matches - not somebody who looks like he's on the verge of nodding off at any given point during the match. 

[OldEwoodBlue]

If we continue our amazing recent points per game ratio we will get another 4 points.

50 points normally keeps you up... apart from when Mowbray last got us relegated with 51.

 

What lofty aspirations we now have thanks to Venkys.

Couldn't be further away from Jack's "Think Big"

[Bigdoggsteel]

Does anyone know a Phil Gregory? 

Is he on here? Hi Phil if so

He's talking some nonsense on Instagram. Defending the manager in a ludicrously blinkered fashion 

 

[Bigdoggsteel]

1 hour ago, DE. said:

1 win since the end of January, 13 games, and he thinks we'll win enough games not to be concerned? Proper head in the sand stuff. I think we'll scrape enough points to survive but to be in that position from where we were is horrific. Mowbray's blasé nature about the whole thing is even worse. He's shown himself to be a manager with little to no real ambition and unfortunately that will affect the players as well. I've said it time and time again but we need a winner in the dugout who genuinely cares and gets upset if his team fail to perform and fail to win matches - not somebody who looks like he's on the verge of nodding off at any given point during the match. 

I have been concerned for a while. Still very concerned now. What really concerns me is the amount of people saying "we will be fine" even though there is no guarantee of that and no reason to suggest that barring other clubs not getting results too,that we will be. 

[DE.]

6 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I have been concerned for a while. Still very concerned now. What really concerns me is the amount of people saying "we will be fine" even though there is no guarantee of that and no reason to suggest that barring other clubs not getting results too,that we will be. 

Looking at the table, the chances of us being overtaken by all but two of the teams below us is very slim I'd say. We've probably done enough to drag ourselves over the line. It's certainly not where we should be, though, after 4 years with a manager who has had a very unique luxury of not having to sell anybody and being funded a decent amount every season to boot. 

[Bigdoggsteel]

6 minutes ago, DE. said:

Looking at the table, the chances of us being overtaken by all but two of the teams below us is very slim I'd say. We've probably done enough to drag ourselves over the line. It's certainly not where we should be, though, after 4 years with a manager who has had a very unique luxury of not having to sell anybody and being funded a decent amount every season to boot. 

True, but lose the next two and other results go against us and things could look far more perilous. I wouldnt fancy us getting a result if pressure was really on. 

 

[Sparks Rover]

1 minute ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I wouldnt fancy us getting a result if pressure was really on. 

 

Exactly! Half of the team are out of contract and the other half go back to their clubs.

Why would they give a toss?

[Bigdoggsteel]

2 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Exactly! Half of the team are out of contract and the other half go back to their clubs.

Why would they give a toss?

And those that could play who have reason to care, are out on loan 

[Bigdoggsteel]

Honestly we would have a better chance accumulating points if we played the under 23s with Barr as manager for the remaining games 

[tomphil]

Mowbray manages and spins his tombola to the law of averages.  

'I'll keep doing this and it'll come off sooner or later'

'Surely we'll win a game or two soon we're only losing one nil'

Never ever have a night at the casino with this mon but if he invites you for a game of cards grab it with both hands, you'll fleece him.

[DE.]

2 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

True, but lose the next two and other results go against us and things could look far more perilous. I wouldnt fancy us getting a result if pressure was really on. 

 

The only slight comfort in our present situation is that all of the teams below us are down there because they can't put together a decent string of results. It's possible one or two will do, as tends to happen towards the end of the season, but 7 out of the 9 below us? It isn't impossible but we would have to lose practically every one of our remaining games. Knowing our luck rather than scrape to safety we'll end up winning every remaining game, meaning absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things but giving TM a boost going into the summer and ensuring he's in situ for another dreary campaign next season.

[Bigdoggsteel]

22 minutes ago, DE. said:

The only slight comfort in our present situation is that all of the teams below us are down there because they can't put together a decent string of results. It's possible one or two will do, as tends to happen towards the end of the season, but 7 out of the 9 below us? It isn't impossible but we would have to lose practically every one of our remaining games. Knowing our luck rather than scrape to safety we'll end up winning every remaining game, meaning absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things but giving TM a boost going into the summer and ensuring he's in situ for another dreary campaign next season.

Indeed, that would be very unsatisfactory. I just have a bad feeling we could end up in an unprecedented last day relegation. This is what following Rovers and Ireland will do to a man 🤣

[onlyoneDuff]

We have a flag with this man's face on it as if he's a Rovers legend! The Coventry three are taking the piss and are worse than Kean and his lot...prove me wrong!

[tomphil]

No problem with people wanting to show their support for him but the flag thing was a club lead vomit inducing gimmick. Appearing for the cameras to wave towards India, it's a hark back to the shagnew crowd figure dressing up to protect certain people.

Of course the usual suspects took to social media and a few on here defending it. Even Dalglish and Souness didn't get that treatment.

Waggot OUT !

[Ulrich]

7 minutes ago, tomphil said:

No problem with people wanting to show their support for him but the flag thing was a club lead vomit inducing gimmick. Appearing for the cameras to wave towards India, it's a hark back to the shagnew crowd figure dressing up to protect certain people.

Of course the usual suspects took to social media and a few on here defending it. Even Dalglish and Souness didn't get that treatment.

Waggot OUT !

When we're allowed back in and the cameras are on the flag, someone should spark a match.

[tomphil]

44 minutes ago, Ulrich said:

When we're allowed back in and the cameras are on the flag, someone should spark a match.

They wave this huge flag of his boat race like he's some sort of Shankly style great leader or figurehead. Then he comes out and hides slumped way up in the seats as far from the touchline he can get without going into the stands.

You really couldn't make it up.

[Ulrich]

3 minutes ago, tomphil said:

They wave this huge flag of his boat race like he's some sort of Shankly style great leader or figurehead. Then he comes out and hides slumped way up in the seats as far from the touchline he can get without going into the stands.

You really couldn't make it up.

As with everything these days, it is all propaganda and bullshit.  Something rovers have become very reliant upon. I find it absolutely repulsive that TM who has achieved the square route of bugger all at rovers is placed in a position of supposed worship. I'd wave a flag of Jack first and foremost but we cannot have our benevolent owners looking 2nd best.

[JacknOry]

Flag was probably tm and waggots idea anyway. Who made the decision? All done to make Venkies think he is idolised.

[JHRover]

Stalin would be proud of the cult they've managed to develop here. 

As I say, Mowbray's biggest success here has been to develop this image that he is absolutely and utterly indispensable and the best manager this club has had or could hope to employ. Some turnaround from taking Coventry to the bottom division and missing out on the Chesterfield job to having a giant flag of yourself commissioned and paid for by Blackburn Rovers. 

I'll never forget Waggott in an early interview of his and there was talk about budgets and structures and he mentioned needing the right structure to ensure the club could keep people like Tony Mowbray here and not lose them. Incredible comments for a CEO to make but those were in the days after promotion when things were ticking over quite nicely.

I don't believe anything they say or do is an accident. They're on a continual communication cycle with people in India.

The idiots have been had again and they still can't see it.

[Ghost7]

The one positive I'm going to take from Mowbray's performance this season is the exposure of Waggott. As a club we needed a CEO that the fans can trust to make the tough decisions, friendships aside, for the good of the team. He isn't the man and the sooner both are gone the better.

The issue we have is that both tick all of the boxes for our inept owners and one plans to make them a significant amount of money. Unfortunately I think we'll be protesting at Ewood again soon enough...

Can anyone tell me another club on the planet where the manager essentially hired his CEO? There may be one but it seems extremely unusual to me (??), and if there is I'd like to know how that turned out.

It's been a frustrating season but any fan who thought Mowbray was a good manager, even at the end of last season, or thinks that the recent form is not his fault, really does need a reality check.

[RevidgeBlue]

5 hours ago, Ghost7 said:

The one positive I'm going to take from Mowbray's performance this season is the exposure of Waggott. As a club we needed a CEO that the fans can trust to make the tough decisions, friendships aside, for the good of the team. He isn't the man and the sooner both are gone the better.

The issue we have is that both tick all of the boxes for our inept owners and one plans to make them a significant amount of money. Unfortunately I think we'll be protesting at Ewood again soon enough...

Can anyone tell me another club on the planet where the manager essentially hired his CEO? There may be one but it seems extremely unusual to me (??), and if there is I'd like to know how that turned out.

It's been a frustrating season but any fan who thought Mowbray was a good manager, even at the end of last season, or thinks that the recent form is not his fault, really does need a reality check.

The conflict of interest is so basic isn't it?1

I flagged it up when it was first being mooted that Waggott was to be appointed but results on the pitch (in League 1) had picked up somewhat so no-one seemed unduly bothered at the time as the **** hadn't hit the fan at that point.

[RevidgeBlue]

10 hours ago, JHRover said:

I'll never forget Waggott in an early interview of his and there was talk about budgets and structures and he mentioned needing the right structure to ensure the club could keep people like Tony Mowbray here and not lose them. Incredible comments for a CEO to make but those were in the days after promotion when things were ticking over quite nicely.

The thing that struck me more was recently when things weren't ticking over quite as nicely and Waggott went out of his way to publicly make excuses for Mowbray due to Covid.

What sort of Chairman or CEO does that? 

A proper unbiased CEO would simply have said that results simply weren't good enough and left it at that leaving the incumbent manager in no doubt he had to pull his socks up or else.

Mind you, what we didn't know at that point was that there are training grounds to be sold and housing developments to be built.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Let's get #mowbrayout trending. It's the least we can for the good of BRFC

And attach the letter to your tweet👍

An Open Letter to Steve Waggott - CEO of Blackburn Rovers (protectjackwalkerslegacy.com)

 

Edited April 5, 2021 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama

[AllRoverAsia]

I suspect that when Mowbray went to Pune, post relegation, and got himself a new contract on the back of the relegation, the early seeds were sown re the STC sale and the need to recruit Maggott and Penus to see it through.

Back then Mowbray was quite publicly anti-Academy.

Nothing to do with football got him this lifetime gig.

The Vs have once again NOT been conned.

They head the scam.

Mowbray and the other scumbags will all be here next season, regardless of what happens in the remainder of this season, to continue in their real job.

May they all rot in the Hell that awaits them.