Tony Mowbray Discussion

[BlackburnEnd75]

I take pride in the performances, not the results, I’ve always said that I’m a performance related coach and I think the performance of the team has generally been good.

Thats Kean level delusional.

Performances are not 'generally good'

He needs to be replaced with a results related coach.

 

[1864roverite]

From my point of view the performances have been dire so god knows what game he has been watching 🤬

[Blue blood]

4 minutes ago, Stuart said:

A performance-related coach in a results-driven sport. Well that can’t end well.

Maybe if our possession stats drop but results improve he’ll go then, eh?

The guy is taking the mick out of every single one of us.

Lockdown has been the second best thing* to happen to Mowbray. Having no fans on his back, no booing in the ground. Will be very interesting to see how his relationship with the press develops if this run continues.

Agree lockdown has been a huge help for him as no criticism. Given he cannot take even the slightest bit of questioning (how arrogant) it's probably only fed into his god complex as well. 

As for the press - I'm yet to see any real challenge. And if 1 win in 14 doesn't garner more searching questions I can't see 1 in 15 or even 20 doing so either. 

[matt83]

1 minute ago, BlackburnEnd75 said:

I take pride in the performances, not the results, I’ve always said that I’m a performance related coach and I think the performance of the team has generally been good.

Thats Kean level delusional.

Performances are not 'generally good'

He needs to be replaced with a results related coach.

 

He’s just not in touch with reality. We’ve not played well this calendar year. Millwall was ok, everything else has been a range of poor to atrocious 

[West Yorks Rover]

Is it time for a " MOWBRAY OUT "  banner in the sky over the stadium ?

[riverholmes]

This might be Mowbray's last 'big' job, that is, with a relatively 'established' Championship club. I think, after successive capitulations in his managerial jobs, the shine he had from his West Brom management days, when they, I believe, got promoted into the Premiership playing attractive football, will have long faded. In the least, he will be out of a job for some time, when he does leave, before he is in the running for any upper tier manager job.

Moreover, I think his repeated references in the above post-match interview to getting players to "understand" the game, might be a form of sublimation (wild speculation on my part, I concede) and a way of saying that he doesn't understand the game anymore. The game has evolved (not necessarily for the better, in my view), teams are playing with three in the middle, often, and Mowbray hasn't worked out, this season, how to replicate it or counter it. The results of having strikers out wide, defending at full back or swinging in crosses, unsuccessfully, has been embarrassing but not unusual.

There is no forward planning. Today, we had four central midfielders (five, if you include Bennett) on the bench. Some of them, likely, won't be here next season. It makes little sense, except, as a favour to senior players or a hapless lack of foresight.

Mowbray out isn't enough - it has to Mowbray-ism out. That is, tactical confusion, old pals acts with signings, impetuousness and lack of planning and building of the squad. The sad truth is, Mowbrayism is an endemic part of the English game, so picking a new boss will not be simple.

Edit: I should acknowledge that he did get Rovers promoted from League 1 and that will be a positive in his CV when it comes to looking for roles in the future. Might make him attractive to an aspiring League 1/2 side, perhaps.

Edited April 5, 2021 by riverholmes

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, Stuart said:

The guy is taking the mick out of every single one of us.

Exactly. 

He's zero integrity. 

[K-Hod]

3 minutes ago, West Yorks Rover said:

Is it time for a " MOWBRAY OUT "  banner in the sky over the stadium ?

I’ll bet those plane owners have been quiet, I imagine we could raise the funds from this forum alone!

[Bigdoggsteel]

2 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Exactly. 

He's zero integrity. 

He is zero integrity? 

To be fair, he's not going to resign and miss out on a pay off. No one would. It's up to someone, anyone, to sack him 

[West Yorks Rover]

1 minute ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

He is zero integrity? 

To be fair, he's not going to resign and miss out on a pay off. No one would. It's up to someone, anyone, to sack him 

He does have to think about his next job though, if he hangs on too long here there might not be one.

Because it wouldn't look good, would it ?

[matt83]

1 minute ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

He is zero integrity? 

To be fair, he's not going to resign and miss out on a pay off. No one would. It's up to someone, anyone, to sack him 

I think the reason why he’s judged harshly for not walking is because he’s said with his integrity he’d walk if he became a burden. So when he’s become a burden and still not prepared to walk just proves he either hasn’t got the integrity he claimed to have or he’s a lair. Possibly both. 

[callumrovers]

34 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

Fair play to Andy Bayes for that. Atleast hes tried to get answers.

[callumrovers]

7 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

I’ll bet those plane owners have been quiet, I imagine we could raise the funds from this forum alone!

100% get something going and ill chip in.

[LDRover]

20 minutes ago, matt83 said:

That laugh that came out was the initial reaction of an arrogant man who knows he’s bulletproof regardless of how he tried to explain it away.

 

Yep. Like an 'if only you knew' laugh.

[oldjamfan1]

He’ll be gone before the Cardiff game. 

[Gumbi]

2 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

He’ll be gone before the Cardiff game. 

Which season?

[callumrovers]

4 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

He’ll be gone before the Cardiff game. 

Its the hope that kills you.

[RoversClitheroe]

4 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

He’ll be gone before the Cardiff game. 

Is that what you've heard? Or your opinion?

[DeeCee]

17 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

I’ll bet those plane owners have been quiet, I imagine we could raise the funds from this forum alone!

It would be pointless, the pundits would just say it's from a few disgruntled fans.

But I'd happily chip in.

 

[oldjamfan1]

1 minute ago, Gumbi said:

Which season?

Ha ha. Joking apart he won’t survive this. 

[oldjamfan1]

Just now, RoversClitheroe said:

Is that what you've heard? Or your opinion?

I have heard that there are conversations being had. I gave up betting a couple of years ago but if I was still a gambler I would be throwing the house at TM to be the next manager sacked in the championship 

[Waggy76]

1 minute ago, oldjamfan1 said:

Ha ha. Joking apart he won’t survive this. 

I can't believe he has lasted this long ,I hope you are right !

[broadsword]

He had to take venus with him if he does go. We need both poison pills out. And then hopefully Waggott walks to, like he promised if St Tony got booted 

[Darrenbot]

I think its easy to see now he's never going to walk so its up to the Venky's to sack him, i don't think they care enough to do it,they seem happy enough to keep plodding along into the abyss,

[RoversClitheroe]

4 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

I have heard that there are conversations being had. I gave up betting a couple of years ago but if I was still a gambler I would be throwing the house at TM to be the next manager sacked in the championship 

One can hope!