Tony Mowbray Discussion

[1864roverite]

01254 372001 is the number that called me.

[rigger]

2 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

01254 372001 is the number that called me.

Phoned and left a message to say I will not be renewing whilst Mowbray is still manager.

[funny-old-game]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-56664180

Where are Britain's loneliest places in lockdown?

1 Blackburn

2 Middlesbrough

What an ironic coincidence

Edited April 7, 2021 by funny-old-game

[unleaded]

Will go down as one of the worst ever managers imho ... will love to wipe out the memory of his years in charge .. just a nothing last 2 years .... 

Mowbray hit the ceiling 2 years ago ...just going round & round like a fan now ..... 

Venkys are just too slow to do anything ....Crazy that they not potting him 

[pentelrobot]

1 hour ago, 1864roverite said:

01254 372001 is the number that called me.

That was the same number that called me last week. Told the young lady that I would not be renewing my ST if Mowbray was still in charge next season. If he isn't potted this week, I honestly cannot see us gaining another point and relegation looms.

[Butty]

3 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Must be some form of negotiations going on agreeing severance package for the Coventrio and Benson and Lowe hopefully.

Wishful thinking from you yet again 😂

[windymiller7]

Sorry guys, just catching up. 

Yes, 01254 372001 was the number that came up on my phone but on the voicemail he left the number 01254 508215 which I assume must be his particular DDI.

[simongarnerisgod]

ben benson is a symbol of our pathetic regime imo,here`s a coach who`s never played football at any level,coaching high level professionals with the the aid of a textbook coaching badge,he`d be removed from his position immediately by a manager who knew and cared,very much a symbol of our current regime,settling for second and third best in all departments of the club

[Silas]

2 minutes ago, windymiller7 said:

..... he left the number 01254 508215 which I assume must be his particular DDI.

😯😯

I'd strongly recommend Les pulls a sickie tomorrow. 

His ear's going to be red raw by end of the day. 😀

 

But on a serious note, would this all  not get fed back to the top? If the office staff ring about 100 a day for renewals and half of them all say how angry they are with TM and the state of the club, surely at some point they have to realise this is seriously damaging their customer base. 

That's how a normal business would operate.......... I think I see where I'm going wrong. 

[DeeCee]

5 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

I was just having my lunch. Now the dog is having it. 

Melton Mowbray pork pie?

[den9112]

28 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

ben benson is a symbol of our pathetic regime imo,here`s a coach who`s never played football at any level,coaching high level professionals with the the aid of a textbook coaching badge,he`d be removed from his position immediately by a manager who knew and cared,very much a symbol of our current regime,settling for second and third best in all departments of the club

Correct ,i have also had my issues with Benson, i believe he used to teach the kids and for some unknown(known) reason he is were he is today...I believe he was good with the youngsters though .......Going to add that for the first time that i have been a season ticket holder (pay on the day back in the Eighties ) but almost 45 years of following Rovers and i will not be bying a season ticket if TM is in charge next season ..

Edited April 7, 2021 by den9112

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, DeeCee said:

Melton Mowbray pork pie?

Cheese butty. I would never give a pork pie away. There's a line Deecee!

[tomphil]

1 hour ago, funny-old-game said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-56664180

Where are Britain's loneliest places in lockdown?

1 Blackburn

2 Middlesbrough

What an ironic coincidence

All the more reason to need a team with a bit of fight and hope about it.

Sadly it reflects its manager, comfortable in a dire situation.

[Mashed Potatoes]

42 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

ben benson is a symbol of our pathetic regime imo,here`s a coach who`s never played football at any level,coaching high level professionals with the the aid of a textbook coaching badge,he`d be removed from his position immediately by a manager who knew and cared,very much a symbol of our current regime,settling for second and third best in all departments of the club

It's a fallacy to believe that someone has to have played at a high level to be a good coach.

Not sure why you have something against Benson. He is the goalkeeping coach - the one area of the team where there has been visible improvement this season. It is a pity that the other coaches like Lowe and Johnson have not had the same impact.

[tomphil]

3 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

It's a fallacy to believe that someone has to have played at a high level to be a good coach.

Not sure why you have something against Benson. He is the goalkeeping coach - the one area of the team where there has been visible improvement this season. It is a pity that the other coaches like Lowe and Johnson have not had the same impact.

That's because Kaminsky has probably forgotten more than Benson will ever know.

Quality keepers just need putting through their paces day in day out, thankfully the recruitment dept found us one.

Perhaps Benson will learn something from him.

[windymiller7]

3 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

It's a fallacy to believe that someone has to have played at a high level to be a good coach.

Not sure why you have something against Benson. He is the goalkeeping coach - the one area of the team where there has been visible improvement this season. It is a pity that the other coaches like Lowe and Johnson have not had the same impact.

I disagree. What the books say isn't necessarily what works in real life situations which he would only know if he'd played the game at any reasonable level.

I see it regularly at work, give me a lad in the design office that's got a bit of site experience over one that's just come through the academic route any day. What works on paper doesn't always work on site or will end up costing a shitload more.

[oldjamfan1]

Of all the problems we have at Rovers just now I’m not convinced Ben Benson is actually one of them. Having a dodgy keeper is not why we are in the predicament we are in. 

[Mashed Potatoes]

2 minutes ago, tomphil said:

That's because Kaminsky has probably forgotten more than Benson will ever know.

Quality keepers just need putting through their paces day in day out, thankfully the recruitment dept found us one.

Perhaps Benson will learn something from him.

The problem with your sort of argument is that Benson can never win - if the player he coaches does well then apparently it is all down to the player. Noboby is going to tell me you would use the same argument if Benson was a popular former player like "good old Johnno".

[oldjamfan1]

1 minute ago, windymiller7 said:

I disagree. What the books say isn't necessarily what works in real life situations which he would only know if he'd played the game at any reasonable level.

I see it regularly at work, give me a lad in the design office that's got a bit of site experience over one that's just come through the academic route any day. What works on paper doesn't always work on site or will end up costing a shitload more.

There are numerous examples of fabulous football coaches that debunk this, in fairness.

Mourinho, Wenger, etc etc

[Mashed Potatoes]

Just now, oldjamfan1 said:

There are numerous examples of fabulous football coaches that debunk this, in fairness.

Mourinho, Wenger, etc etc

Yes - and Bill Belichick, the most successful NFL coach in history, never played the game after the age of 23.

[windymiller7]

6 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

There are numerous examples of fabulous football coaches that debunk this, in fairness.

Mourinho, Wenger, etc etc

What do you mean....look at the evidence - top players! 🤣 (that's Mourinho bottom right btw)

 

[tomphil]

8 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

The problem with your sort of argument is that Benson can never win - if the player he coaches does well then apparently it is all down to the player. Noboby is going to tell me you would use the same argument if Benson was a popular former player like "good old Johnno".

There is no argument to be had.

A novice coaching from a manual was coaching young keepers and putting a loanee through his paces.  Now he's got an experienced international number 1 there everyday.

Who's rubbing off on who ?   What can he possibly 'teach' someone like Kaminsky ?

Nothing, apart from perhaps offering stats on the opposition.  So in effect having him around is better for Benson and his own learning curve no ?

The Johnno comment is bollocks seeing as he had a very good and long career as a high level player.  So no correlation whatsoever but yes he should be perfectly able to coach the first team instead of Mowbray and Venus.

How could he be worse than 1 win in 14 with such a good squad to pick from that he knows very well.

 

[1864roverite]

Silence from within the walls of Ewood is deafening🤬

Had an email response though informing me that it has been passed to SW

[Mashed Potatoes]

9 minutes ago, tomphil said:

There is no argument to be had.

A novice coaching from a manual was coaching young keepers and putting a loanee through his paces.  Now he's got an experienced international number 1 there everyday.

Who's rubbing off on who ?   What can he possibly 'teach' someone like Kaminsky ?

Nothing, apart from perhaps offering stats on the opposition.  So in effect having him around is better for Benson and his own learning curve no ?

The Johnno comment is bollocks seeing as he had a very good and long career as a high level player.  So no correlation whatsoever but yes he should be perfectly able to coach the first team instead of Mowbray and Venus.

How could he be worse than 1 win in 14 with such a good squad to pick from that he knows very well.

 

I think Benson has been coaching at the club since 2015 so is no longer a novice.

Good old Johnno may have been a decent player but he is listed as being the Technical Coach and Head of Player Development so can hardly be absolved from responsibility for the disappointments on the pitch - if only he had been as successful as Ben Benson.

Edited April 7, 2021 by Mashed Potatoes

[Hasta]

3 minutes ago, tomphil said:

What can he possibly 'teach' someone like Kaminsky ?

Stop thinking your Frank Beckenbaur every time the opposition play a ball over the top?