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I’m sorry Paul, but it really has bewildered me that running Blackburn Rovers sensibly has been made to look as arduous as sewing in sparring mitts, but that is how it has been presented throughout th

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I certainly don't claim to be 'ITK' at all but shortly after the final whistle yesterday I received a text from someone extremely close to the club - not the playing or coaching side - who doesn't nor

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I keep coming back in my head to just how ridiculous this whole scenario is. February 2017 - facing likely relegation they finally sack Owen Coyle - he should never have been allowed anywhere nea

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11 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

“If you were in their position you’d be doing the same, or may be you wouldn’t. Maybe you’d be a results orientated owner who, ‘lose three on the bounce, sack him and get the next one in’ but then you might have four, five, six managers a season if that was the case"

This is getting ridiculous now. 1 win in 14. No other owners in the country wouldn't have sacked him by now. 

Annoying, irritating man 

Yeah good argument there from Tony. It would be daft to sack a manager if they sacked a manager for losing three on the bounce. 

But how about six on the bounce? Or with one win in 14? I mean as a defence it would be good if those were the options but they're not whatsoever the two alternatives we are facing. Surprised - well I am not - that no one called him out on this as his defence is utterly at odds with reality and the situation. 

He can do one. Second worse manager behind Kean now imo. Ince and Coyle were useless but less objectionable. 

 

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3 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Full credit to Sharpe for once as I'd have told the lying cowardly scumbag to go feck himself.

What a lowlife Mowbray is.

A shyster like his mates.

 

I would have preferred that response from Sharpe to be honest 

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9 minutes ago, windymiller7 said:

He's pissing himself laughing at us now as he knows his mate won't sack him, Pasha is a pussy, & the local press won't push anything too hard. The only way he'd get any grief would be from us in the ground and he knows that that's not an option we have. FWIW I think he'd cave under a barrage of abuse from the fans on a matchday.

I'm so angry, & feel so utterly helpless that it makes me even more angry.

(I've noticed Les isn't answering his phone today btw!)

Yes, he's a coward. With crowds in he'd have cried and run away just like he did at Coventry.

Probably stayed on to oversee Brockhall destruction though !

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Riverside under the drip said:

We have always said that he'll never be as bad as Kean or Coyle and this has been taken as fact. I think it is time to actually compare.

Compared to Kean:

1. No drink-driving lies or agent interference (known that is).

2. Players with family connections signed who are objectively not good enough (Myles Anderson / Aynsley Pears).

3. Results of the team are now worse than at any point then.

4. Odd (ludicrous) statements in the press which seem to defy logic.

5. Mowbray does have a managerial record of some sorts before taking over.

So he's not quite as bad (from a criminal standpoint if nothing else) but it is far closer than you'd at first think.

Compared to Coyle:

1. Previous promotion (Coyle with Burnley, Mowbray with West Brom).

2. Tumbling down the league without any seeming halt.

3. No link to Burnley I suppose.

4. Promotion from League 1 (we cannot know if Coyle would have done the same or not).

I would say that he is on a par with Coyle for utter hopelessness but has the potential to get worse if he keeps up this arrogant 'journey' nonsense. Again, it's worrying how he seems to be in company with the worst managers in our history when you ignore emotion.

Look I am no fan of Coyle but strongly disagree Coyle is on a par with TM. TM is far worse than Coyle. Here's why:

1. Lies - both told them (Coyle knew some contract situations but not others) but TM has told way more. In fairness he has been here longer but his seem of a greater extent. Nayambe's injury situation for one is Kean-esque. As is the judge me on performances not results. Other things are reality defying which o can't recall Coyle doing, such as rewriting when Graham went out of the team. Verdict TM worse.

2. TM has insulted the fans far more. From blaming for Nayambe's injury to saying we won't be satisfied as we remember winning the premiership. Verdict TM worse. 

3. Corruption - Coyle getting the job as outstanding candidate. TM getting his mate as boss and the training ground fiasco. verdict TM far worse. 

4. Alienation of young players. Coyle did a bit with Warton and didn't use youngster enough. But TMs treatment of Raya and Nayambe has been shocking. TM worse again. 

5. Transfer duds. Stokes was pretty appalling but he didn't cost £7 or even £5 million. Expensive payoff and an utter flop but TM beats him for blowing all the budget on non scoring strikers. And that's before we get onto Walton or Ayala...

6. Past record. Tie - maybe Coyle slightly worse as failure everywhere bar Burnley, but the Celtic failure is pretty huge. Perhaps Coyle edges this one. 

7. Coyle had his best players sold. TM hasn't had to have anyone sold who he didn't want to. TM has had £15 million to spend. I think Coyle had £250k to spend. Verdict TM way worse. 

8. Additional cock ups. Coyle wins for the Duffy fiasco, not taking him off, dropping him, disciplining him for throwing the Cardiff game. Coyle worse. 

9. Best team - neither really knew this whatsoever but given 4 years to clock this I would say this is a bigger failing in TM. Also Could never played Gally at right back. TM worse.

 

So overall TM has been worse. More lies, more corruption, more incompetence. Not that this is an endorsement of Coyle. He was utterly crap too. But less crooked and in much more challenging circumstances. 

 

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7 minutes ago, callumrovers said:

There not going to put a mowbray out ad going around Ewood are they??

 

Or we create an ad for a fake housing development company specialising in downsizing structures in place and building houses, all with the intention of lining pockets.  Make a few sneaky, snide references to the Coventrio.  Might garner publicity if it succeeded haha

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50 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Because our owners dont give a flying fuck about the club, as has been proven right throughout their time owning us.

He isnt as bad as Coyle or indeed Kean either. We are going backwards, he has long since overstayed his welcome, but he isnt as bad as those 2 and will have to do a lot to get to that stage.

I disagree.  Hes worse than those two. Coyle never bullshited. Yes he was poor but Mowbray is a downright liar and a fraud. Kean knew he was a wrong 'un but never tried to hide it. This guy speaks with a forked tongue and tries to play the good guy when in fact football wise hes the devil reincarnated 

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Just now, roverandout said:

I disagree.  Hes worse than those two. Coyle never bullshited. Yes he was poor but Mowbray is a downright liar and a fraud. Kean knew he was a wrong 'un but never tried to hide it. This guy speaks with a forked tongue and tries to play the good guy when in fact football wise hes the devil reincarnated 

He's on par with if not worse than Coyle at this stage, but lets not go all crazy here bringing Kean into it 

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2 hours ago, Mercer said:

Why is it raining today when the weather forecast yesterday said it would be fine!? 

Seriously though, I posted an update yesterday and then decided to hide it after a few minutes - some on here might have seen it before I hid it.  Decided to hide it because I didn't want to set the hares running again. 

All I will say is that my understanding now is it's got a bit more bigger and complicated.  I still think there is a fair chance Mowbray will not be in charge on Saturday. 

Will be interested in where @oldjamfan1 thinks we now are.

If I've been sold a dud and none of this happens, as posted previously, I will retire to my wines from this MB. 

Mercer, please keep posting your info. No need to leave the messageboard..

 

1 hour ago, mustard said:

"If you were in their position you’d be doing the same, or may be you wouldn’t. Maybe you’d be a results orientated owner who, ‘lose three on the bounce, sack him and get the next one in’ but then you might have four, five, six managers a season if that was the case."

It was 5 on the bounce and now 1 win in 14, Tony...

He's fucking deluded as fuck

Owners need to be results driven based. Performance can be good but doesnt get any points on the board. Results do. Mowbray a manager job is to get results. Simple as. 

He is getting more and delude every day..😡

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2 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

He's on par with if not worse than Coyle at this stage, but lets not go all crazy here bringing Kean into it 

I disagree.  Im starting to hate this guy more than kean

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