Tony Mowbray Discussion

[martonrover]

1 minute ago, Ulrich said:

Never buy a new build, designed to last 20-30 years, shocking houses.

I am curious, we all seem galvanised in opinion regarding our management team, but I would like to know if we can transform that into an action? We have a home game coming up, so if the the supporters groups and individuals were to turn up at kick off, could we muster several hundred of us to protest? A plane flying over, hundreds of us chanting would make the press in the current climate and whilst they may not act at least we would have tried. I am willing to contribute to the plane idea and also to turn up and scream my head off, but are others and the supporters groups? We need to do something, otherwise nothing will change and our club will decline further. Other suggestions are also welcome. So how many of us are willing?

I'm not sure it's a good idea to encourage a gathering at the moment. If nothing else, it would allow for the supporters to be painted in a bad light.

The trouble with the plane is, it's a bit of a hackneyed old idea now, and may appear a little crass.

A newspaper advert might be good, but I guess the LT would be loathe to run it for fear of upsetting the club.

[Ulrich]

Provided we followed the laws, what can they do? Lock down will be over and even the police will not be able to stop us. Yes the plane has been done, but a paper advert is too placate and won't generate further coverage.

[CheshireRover]

With pubs half opening on Monday, if by Saturday we are 1/17 I can see some drunken folk making a beeline for Ewood anyway, regardless of anything being planned, when they realise they can make their voice heard for the first time…

[Ulrich]

That's a cracking idea, let's get drunk and storm Ewood. That will not look good on us at all.

[CheshireRover]

As though the current situation paints the club in a good light?

It’s people’s right to protest, having a few pints doesn’t change that does it?

All I am saying is Ewood Park is not a long walk from the Brown Cow, Havelock etc. A bit of liquid courage and people may want to tell Mowbray he’s a prick in person.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, Ulrich said:

Provided we followed the laws, what can they do? Lock down will be over and even the police will not be able to stop us.

Are social distancing measures still not in place?

[perthblue02]

1 hour ago, martonrover said:

I think they're weighing up whether to appoint someone from Barratt or Redrow.

"We can continue respecting Jack Walkers legacy by building an estate of champions league quality homes within the next two years for 1 million a year, using apprentices and a few builder loans from Eastern Europe" - Mrs Desai 09/04/21 (probably)

Edited April 9, 2021 by perthblue02

[mustard]

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19220124.tony-mowbray-sticking-beliefs-amid-rovers-criticism/
 

“Every football club wants to go in a direction, I’ve talked a lot about a journey and making this team a more possession-based and ball orientated team,” he said

 

“I’ve spent my career not liking stats, it’s down to whether you win or lose, but there is a correlation out there between having more possession and losing.”

Wait, am I tripping?  Has he admitted there’s a correlation between more possession and losing, whilst insisting on a more possession-based system?  Surely he means winning???  Though our correlation is certainly one with losing. 
 

Need to listen to the audio to see if that’s what was said.  Flabbergasting, if so. 

[Gone to seed]

1 hour ago, martonrover said:

I'm not sure it's a good idea to encourage a gathering at the moment. If nothing else, it would allow for the supporters to be painted in a bad light.

The trouble with the plane is, it's a bit of a hackneyed old idea now, and may appear a little crass.

A newspaper advert might be good, but I guess the LT would be loathe to run it for fear of upsetting the club.

There are perfectly good electronic display systems on the Fox & Hounds site and adjacent to the Darwen End on Bolton Road that could be utilised, if we were to put a little effort into crowdfunding a statement or two. There are also railings a plenty in the approaches to the stadium to which a variety of custom made messages could easily be appended and photographed (for wider publicity means). Of course I'm not saying we should do such a thing - I mean, shaming the club on it's own doorstep? Who would dare to think of adopting that kind of guerrilla tactics anyway...? Audacious upstarts? A lunatic fringe? Actual supporters with the best long term interests of the club at heart.....?!!

[davulsukur]

7 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Think the decision to sack him has been made but cos we used HSH agency if they dont have a suitable candidate might be why hes not gone yet. 

I mean if our search is limited to one agency, what's the point?

It would in fact just show how little Venkys have been paying attention over the last 10 years, or how much they actually care.

[1864roverite]

His body language clearly suggests that he simply isn’t bothered whether we win lose or draw- he knows he is at the end of the line whether it’s him resigning or getting hooked and that really does annoy the shit out of the supporters.

Waggots silence in media circles emphasises this and shows a clear lack of value of our club and epitomises the level of his leadership in running our club.

Its a total shit show🤬

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, mustard said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19220124.tony-mowbray-sticking-beliefs-amid-rovers-criticism/
 

“Every football club wants to go in a direction, I’ve talked a lot about a journey and making this team a more possession-based and ball orientated team,” he said

 

“I’ve spent my career not liking stats, it’s down to whether you win or lose, but there is a correlation out there between having more possession and losing.”

Wait, am I tripping?  Has he admitted there’s a correlation between more possession and losing, whilst insisting on a more possession-based system?  Surely he means winning???  Though our correlation is certainly one with losing. 
 

Need to listen to the audio to see if that’s what was said.  Flabbergasting, if so. 

It only makes sense of you carry on reading to the next para in the article....he's acknowledging that we have loads of possession and lose but...

“That shouldn’t be the case, you should have more control and be able to create chances and the more you have the ball the less chance the opposition should have"

Edited April 9, 2021 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama

[K-Hod]

‘I’ve spent my career not liking stats’

However, now it’s the only thing that could possibly make him look better, he’s all about them....

[Wheelton Blue]

The time and place for pretending to play tika taka is not here and now.

We need points and we need them quickly.

The man is a fool.

[Gone to seed]

24 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

I mean if our search is limited to one agency, what's the point?

It would in fact just show how little Venkys have been paying attention over the last 10 years, or how much they actually care.

Yes, you can imagine the job description...

Manager Required (Football Operations and Strategy)

Following the recent progression the club into the English fourth tier, Blackburn Rovers PLC seeks the services of an ambitious, capable and experienced professional manager to take charge of first team matters. The ideal candidate will be able to demonstrate a clear track record of success, including leading teams with a similar historical and professional pedigree through systematic and transformational change, as we seek to climb the football pyramid back to our rightful place at the highest levels in sport in this country.

We anticipate the successful candidate will bring not only a wide and well established network of relationships and connections within the game, but also the commercial acumen to build a vibrant and purposeful squad of senior professionals capable of competing effectively at the highest levels.

Recognised and accredited professional qualifications are a must, as is the ability to assemble a strong and dedicated team of support staff for front of house and back-room roles.

Candidates whose modus operandi includes facial contortionism, directing game play from prone positions, effecting the appearance of sleep during match time, use of supercilious remarks to contain local press coverage, public chiding of staff as a 'motivating approach', dogmatic insistence on the use of assets in clearly inappropriate roles during match play, constant berating and undermining of long term supporters as being somehow unrelated to long term decision making and planning, collaboration with unspecified but potentially unscrupulous others to asset strip this proud club, or any other such non-football-positive behaviours NEED NOT APPLY.

Applications to: The Tea Lady (being the senior 'management' representative left in the actual building following the recent departure of the (haha) Chief Executive). Blackburn Rovers Football Club PLC. Nuttall Street, Blackburn BB2 4JF

 

 

Like that is going to happen...

Edited April 9, 2021 by WIR Second Coming
He's fat, he's round, he's tearing down the ground, Steve Waggot, Steve Maggot!

[martonrover]

57 minutes ago, WIR Second Coming said:

There are perfectly good electronic display systems on the Fox & Hounds site and adjacent to the Darwen End on Bolton Road that could be utilised, if we were to put a little effort into crowdfunding a statement or two. There are also railings a plenty in the approaches to the stadium to which a variety of custom made messages could easily be appended and photographed (for wider publicity means). Of course I'm not saying we should do such a thing - I mean, shaming the club on it's own doorstep? Who would dare to think of adopting that kind of guerrilla tactics anyway...? Audacious upstarts? A lunatic fringe? Actual supporters with the best long term interests of the club at heart.....?!!

Good idea. I think it's been looked at before, but maybe an advert in the Indian press rather than the LT?

[RoversClitheroe]

Could we start a government petition to get rid of the Coventrio? Ha

[Mattyblue]

‘I’ve spent my career not liking stats, it’s down to whether you win or lose’

Hang on, thought it wasn’t about winning or losing, but ‘performances’? Anyone would think he has begun to say the exact opposite to the above quote, which is the very antithesis of what first team managers are appointed for, for the benefit of idiotic owners and job preservation...

[tomphil]

The guy should be ripped into little pieces by ANY half decent journo with a pair of balls.  The stuff he comes out with is meat and drink it's like a boxer standing thee with his hands down.

Unbelievable how he can get away with such contradictory dog shit week after week, month after month. He's embarrassing. 

Soon as he mentions possession and performance again after another defeat there's your chance boys !

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

The problem with Mowbray is he's not very thick-skinned and gets very defensive when questioned on anything related to his football management.  He's also arrogant. The two things are probably related.

Trouble is he's not very good at his job so ends up tripping himself up with his increasingly bizarre excuses. He's not getting a better gig than here. I bet he can't believe his luck. 

[Displaced Rover]

Just for fun I decided to have a look at the last 15 games (league only) of Mowbray and the two previous sacked managers (I've ignored Lambert). 

Makes grim reading for old Tony.

Mowbray - P15 / W2 / D4 / L9 - 0.67 PPG

Coyle - P15 / W4 / D4 / L7 - 1.07 PPG

Bowyer - P15 / W3 / D8 / L4 - 1.13 PPG

Interestingly both Bowyer and Coyle were sacked going into an international break so looks like we missed the boat the other week.

I cannot understand how anyone with such a record is still clinging on. Man of integrity...

[den]

55 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

‘I’ve spent my career not liking stats, it’s down to whether you win or lose’

Hang on, thought it wasn’t about winning or losing, but ‘performances’? Anyone would think he has begun to say the exact opposite to the above quote, which is the very antithesis of what first team managers are appointed for, for the benefit of idiotic owners and job preservation...

I think what he’s saying, or trying to say is that if you concentrate first and foremost on performances, the results will follow. Doing it the other way round won’t work He’s saying we are playing really well and we are not far off getting the results to match.

Thing is Tony, you’ve had over four years and look at what’s actually happening on the pitch. Yes, some nice passing out from the back and at times good movement. We never, ever look like scoring or winning a game though. You have got this particular approach very badly wrong - and this squad - the squad you’ve built over four years - don’t have it in them to change anything. 
 

It’s time to completely rebuild IMO, starting with a new manager, because we’re not as close to being successful and challenging the top six as you think we are. Time to get someone else in with fresh ideas about how to win games and challenge for the play offs.

[Blue blood]

58 minutes ago, Displaced Rover said:

Just for fun I decided to have a look at the last 15 games (league only) of Mowbray and the two previous sacked managers (I've ignored Lambert). 

Makes grim reading for old Tony.

Mowbray - P15 / W2 / D4 / L9 - 0.67 PPG

Coyle - P15 / W4 / D4 / L7 - 1.07 PPG

Bowyer - P15 / W3 / D8 / L4 - 1.13 PPG

Interestingly both Bowyer and Coyle were sacked going into an international break so looks like we missed the boat the other week.

I cannot understand how anyone with such a record is still clinging on. Man of integrity...

I think this clearly illustrates that the lunatics are running the asylum. Especially when compared to Bowyer it's a very interesting comparison. Both had previous of being the right end of the table years before, both dug us out of a hole initially. And yet one was given the boot despite having to sell a number of key players. The other gets to spend a ton and still is in a job with a worse record. Whichever way you cut it, that he is still hear shows Kean-esque levels of power and influence far beyond what the managerial role should entail. Another crushing blow for the club. 

[windymiller7]

It says it all really that I don't think I've actually ever heard the the phrase "1 win in 14" used before when  a football manager is being discussed! I think the worst is probably "1 win in 10/11"

Unbelievable Geoff!

[Ghost7]

It's unusual at this level. Typically Premier League strugglers go through patches like this but they are more often than not known to be out of their depth in that league. 15+ without a win would get you in the Premier League's all time top 10 worst runs after Ipswich. Totally unacceptable at our level though and no manager would survive it at a club with competent owners.