Tony Mowbray Discussion

[martonrover]

  On 12/04/2021 at 12:03, chaddyrovers said:

The problems is certain people have taken advantages of them and now are very caution who they can trust. 

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Well I would suggest that appointing a series of stooges and the manager's mate are not the most likely to yield a positive outcome.

That is not a case of their being unlucky, it's wilful neglect.

[chaddyrovers]

  On 12/04/2021 at 14:49, Richard Oakley said:

@chaddyrovers Absolutely. It does depend on who do the review.

Rumour is that once the furlough ends 50% of those employed in the admin side, including coaches would be made redundant. Presumably staffing levels would be part of the review.

Teams under a transfer embargo were limited to new contracts not exceeding £520,000 a year including any payments to agents to a squad up to 25 players. Since the players union wants the squad limit removed, it doesn't sound like that has changed.

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We be out of embargo shortly I believe. EFL mess up

 We see in the future

[RoversClitheroe]

I'm genuinely starting to lose my mind. 

All these stat accounts now trying to convince fans Mowbray isn't doing as badly as everyone thinks? 

Are they thinking straight? 

I'm genuinely baffled.

Like a Company that's going into administration, and some analyst saying "they shouldn't be going under as they have reduced expenses in X" 

It's an absolute joke imo.

[Stuart]

More time? I know he’s stealing a living and he’s committing crimes against football but he just needs sacking not imprisonment!

[RoversClitheroe]

  On 12/04/2021 at 18:04, Stuart said:

More time? I know he’s stealing a living and he’s committing crimes against football but he just needs sacking not imprisonment!

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Honestly mate it's becoming a complete joke all these stat accounts trying to back Mowbray lol

[Stuart]

  On 12/04/2021 at 18:05, RoversClitheroe said:

Honestly mate it's becoming a complete joke all these stat accounts trying to back Mowbray lol

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Can’t work out of the are being controversial for click bait, if they are planted by the club, or if they are just being deliberately obtuse.

[DanielMB]

Expected Goals is the most useless thing  ever. All it says is that we should score more goals than we are. Still doesnt put points on the board.

[Theaxe15]

  On 12/04/2021 at 18:22, DanielMB said:

Expected Goals is the most useless thing  ever. All it says is that we should score more goals than we are. Still doesnt put points on the board.

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Agreed. I never expect goals anyway when we have the £12 million cows arse banjo express on the pitch. Their collective output should be enough for a sacking as it is.

[BlackburnEnd75]

  On 12/04/2021 at 18:22, Stuart said:

Can’t work out of the are being controversial for click bait, if they are planted by the club, or if they are just being deliberately obtuse.

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Maybe they are struggling to leave the 'mowbray is the messiah' club.

I think it must be a lot easier to watch the games 100% believing that he is 'the guy'

[LDRover]

That stat account has no credibility until Dan Clough 'likes' it.

[RoversClitheroe]

  On 12/04/2021 at 18:37, BlackburnEnd75 said:

Maybe they are struggling to leave the 'mowbray is the messiah' club.

I think it must be a lot easier to watch the games 100% believing that he is 'the guy'

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Hahah no it's not when you watch the game with your eyes rather than stats hahha

[Stuart]

  On 12/04/2021 at 18:37, BlackburnEnd75 said:

Maybe they are struggling to leave the 'mowbray is the messiah' club.

I think it must be a lot easier to watch the games 100% believing that he is 'the guy'

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I can’t imagine anything more depressing than watching Mowbray football, losing, and thinking “this is as good as it gets”.

[roversfan99]

Its a case in point of something ive seen more than once, the continuation of an argument (in this case the twitter account admitted recently that Mowbray needs to go so its not even a point he agrees with himself) simply to back up and champion the use of data.

xG is an inherently flawed system that implies that it can be expected that over time, over and underperforming in the actual league table v the xG table will revert to the mean but that simply isnt true, it implies that all teams are equally clinical for one. Brighton would be in the Champions League if it meant anything, we would be in the play offs and Swansea would be in mid table.

[tomphil]

If you've got an Hons degree in it or whatever then there'll be a need to willy wave it around.

[simongarnerisgod]

in the telegraph,tony is urging our other forwards to  reach the armstrong standard of goalscoring,rather difficult when you only play with one striker,put the other two out wide and you have pass the ball sideways and back because there is no other option,im`e sure mowbray has breathed to much of the chemical ridden air on his soujourns back to his beloved middlesborough

[Mattyblue]

  On 12/04/2021 at 18:00, RoversClitheroe said:

I'm genuinely starting to lose my mind. 

All these stat accounts now trying to convince fans Mowbray isn't doing as badly as everyone thinks? 

Are they thinking straight? 

I'm genuinely baffled.

Like a Company that's going into administration, and some analyst saying "they shouldn't be going under as they have reduced expenses in X" 

It's an absolute joke imo.

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Where is ‘performances vs results’ remotely a debate anywhere else in first team football?  Oh yes, just the one club where a manager has a job to save with imbecilic owners.

These teenage data geeks really are Mowbray’s useful idiots

Edited April 12, 2021 by Mattyblue

[Stuart]

  On 12/04/2021 at 19:54, Mattyblue said:

 

Where is ‘performances vs results’ remotely a debate anywhere else in first team football?  Oh yes, just the one club where a manager has a job to save with imbecilic owners.

These teenage data geeks really are Mowbray’s useful idiots

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There really is only one stat that matters for   football managers. Anything else is just an excuse.

At least at clubs where football is the raison d’être.

[Banzai]

  On 06/04/2021 at 14:30, Roverall said:

response@venkys.com

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Response @ Venkys ?

That has got to be the biggest oxymoron in the universe.

[Darwen Rover 007]

Absolute shambles that Tony is still here.. to say I was excited last week after the Bournemouth game when I heard he was going was an understatement, it was HOPE for a new start, a fresh start, yes they may have recruited a dudd, but I would always rather roll the dice and live life going for stuff than stay mediocre.. 

 

I'm hoping they're lining up a corker before potting Tony.. it definitely is the bloody hope that kills us 

[simongarnerisgod]

some people can`t see the wood for the trees,mowbray will never,ever get us promoted,it`s as simple as that,he`s had nearly 5 seasons and we are back where we started in 2017,after spending considerable amounts of money on the journey as well,just what do these statistic  imbeciles not understand

[skous18]

Brutal

[broadsword]

  On 12/04/2021 at 18:04, Stuart said:

More time? I know he’s stealing a living and he’s committing crimes against football but he just needs sacking not imprisonment!

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Speak for yourself, chum! 

[RoverKyle]

  On 12/04/2021 at 19:54, Mattyblue said:

 

Where is ‘performances vs results’ remotely a debate anywhere else in first team football?  Oh yes, just the one club where a manager has a job to save with imbecilic owners.

These teenage data geeks really are Mowbray’s useful idiots

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Performances v Results isn't even a debate for Rovers. Both have been woeful.

[Tom]

  On 12/04/2021 at 21:26, RoverKyle said:

Performances v Results isn't even a debate for Rovers. Both have been woeful.

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Yeah but if you ignore the results, and the performances then the ‘numbers’ show we are doing well

I believe the team that finishes outside the top ten with the highest xG goes into the preliminary rounds for the Intertoto cup and gets a £25 Subway voucher 

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[RoversClitheroe]

  On 12/04/2021 at 19:26, roversfan99 said:

Its a case in point of something ive seen more than once, the continuation of an argument (in this case the twitter account admitted recently that Mowbray needs to go so its not even a point he agrees with himself) simply to back up and champion the use of data.

xG is an inherently flawed system that implies that it can be expected that over time, over and underperforming in the actual league table v the xG table will revert to the mean but that simply isnt true, it implies that all teams are equally clinical for one. Brighton would be in the Champions League if it meant anything, we would be in the play offs and Swansea would be in mid table.

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This is spot on.

xG most flawed football star out there.