Tony Mowbray Discussion

[LeftWinger]

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, Blue blood said:

Agree it's a certainty for a few reasons 

1) We couldn't survive another death spiral like that. No Rotherham or Wednesday situation to bail us out.

2) We will need to replace Armstrong and Elliott our best two attacking players. TM doesn't have a good record of signing strikers. 

3) I fear a Coyle type situation where significant transfers are only sanctioned after outgoings have happened leaving us playing catch up. 

4) The defence needs major work. Nayambe could be off. We lose our loan centre backs, Warton won't be fit for a while, Williams needs replacing, and Ayala who knows? That's a lot of surgery needed assuming that Pickering is any good. 

5) TM won't back down from this possession football guff which has cost us time and time again. It's not working but he is obsessed with it even when it doesn't work. 

6) TM didn't know his best team this season. How he will know if when we have a raft of new players I have no idea. Other than the start of last season I can't really remember a settled team since the early days. 

Relegation next year looks a cert with TM.

I don’t think he’s ever known his best team.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

'Only way' - Mowbray on how Rovers can challenge parachute clubs | Lancashire Telegraph

More gobbledygook

[AllRoverAsia]

It's embarrassing having a manager where you need to ask Alexa to find an explanation for his verbal trash.

[yellowsubmarine]

It's time! Let's get Mourinho in.

[tomphil]

The flannel has started again, not having this fabled 100 million doesn't mean we should be so so far away from it every season. Also he's had several death spirals here and not been sacked so if someone else takes over why should they be unless we are starring relegation in the face ?

That's something that has been a real threat the second half of this season. If it wasn't for the points gained in a few spectacular early wins before his system got sussed that's exactly where we'd be. Stick that up your identity !

Parachute money has always given well run and managed clubs in this league an edge of the others. That didn't start in the last few years just to throw a spanner in his works, it's always been that way. Just means others with decent means - like us - have to be more organized, work harder EVERY game, be very astute with signings and the main thing, be better managed.  That's what gives you a chance otherwise why bother.

He's set to ramp it up in the coming weeks with more bluff and bluster as he carries on without a care in the world. Then he'll be hoisting the white flag again by December.

Why is he even making these comments anyway - unchallenged as usual. He doesn't look at the table and doesn't care about the team as long as he thinks individuals are performing and developing. He told us so just last week.

Just #### OFF !

[davulsukur]

it's all kicking off in football today, come on Venkys fuel the fire by sacking Mowbray! (no one will even notice, outside of Rovers)

 

[JHRover]

The thing that is making a mockery of his identity and slow build drivel is the fact that most of his squad are out of contract in a few weeks. 

So there is no build or identity. Its a hand to mouth existence of recycling players and assembling a squad on the cheap.

Whatever identity he desires will have to be rebuilt over the summer in recruitment and coaching. Presumably this will take months or years to take effect and we will need Mowbray to lead us on that journey. No thanks.

He knows he can't point to progress on the squad or the usual claim of we are a couple of defenders or key signings short of being the finished article- we need more than half a squad- so instead he is trying to play down the scale of the impending exodus.

Like a worm on a hook and I pity anyone who still has genuine belief in where this is going.

They're more bothered about protecting St Tony and his staff than what is best for this football club. 

 

[tomphil]

He's just going to go through all the same old spin again it's like it's scripted. 

Needs defenders - didn't sign any

Needs quality - Had 12 million, didn't sign any.

Needs windows - Had loads of them and we are now further away than ever.

Needs experience - Got wages for Holtby, Johnson, Downing x2, Trybull, Ayala & Douglas.

Needs transition to possession - 2 wins in 16 and nearly ended up in relegation fight.

Needs new pitch - But others kept beating us on the same bit of ground.

Needs new training ground - I'm not even commenting on that one.

Now he needs 100 million or another 10 windows.

Anybody who buys into this still either needs therapy or hasn't really been around Rovers long enough to form any other opinions.

Like i said originally - Just #### off !

[broadsword]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

The thing that is making a mockery of his identity and slow build drivel is the fact that most of his squad are out of contract in a few weeks. 

 

I swear they built Stonehenge quicker

[47er]

25 minutes ago, broadsword said:

I swear they built Stonehenge quicker

and the pyramids.

[Bigdoggsteel]

Look the slow build was meant to reach fruition this season. It clearly hasn't. I have no doubt he is using Covid as an excuse with Venkys and it comes down to whether they buy that or not. They probably will and give him next season to see out his contract. It will be a relegation battle I imagine. 

Edited April 19, 2021 by Bigdoggsteel

[tomphil]

The fact that it hasn't come to fruition isn't really the issue for most, as it was always a very long shot under him anyway.

The fact he wasted an entire season transitioning then has wasted this one with the style hes transitioned to. The fact his 12 million pounds worth of forwards still look worth a third of that combined. The fact we've won just 2 out of 16, dropped like a stone until we finally find a team worse than us we can beat. And the fact he's still here preparing to carry on the same next season....

All those really are the issues.

[Mattyblue]

You can’t ‘slow build’ in the Championship, there’s too much of an emphasis on a rapid turnover of players and managers. Loanees are a big part of most club’s set ups - the antithesis of a slow build when 4/5 players bugger off back to their parent club every June.

Alas, we have owners that still fundamentally don’t understand the game, so such self serving BS keeps him in a job.

[tomphil]

He was the one who insisted on slow build if his own words a few years ago are to be believed. Now he's giving the sob story the league is being left behind by the parachute money clubs.

It's always been the case and its always been the case you stand still you get left behind.

A right visionary isn't he.

[gumboots]

1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Look the slow build was meant to reach fruition this season. It clearly hasn't. I have no doubt he is using Covid as an excuse with Venkys and it comes down to whether they buy that or not. They probably will and give him next season to see out his contract. It will be a relegation battle I imagine. 

Wont be much of a battle with him in charge, will it?

[perthblue02]

Looks like Sam the winger project will be ongoing next season is TM is still here

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19243106.gallagher-has-adapt-mowbrays-wide-striker-role/

[Richard Oakley]

15 minutes ago, perthblue02 said:

Looks like Sam the winger project will be ongoing next season is TM is still here

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19243106.gallagher-has-adapt-mowbrays-wide-striker-role/

The mind boggles.

[Ghost7]

Imagine having to adapt your game to a wide forward when you have all the physical attributes of a CF and because your manager failed to sign players that suit his own system. He should be used as an impact sub and his first touch worked on in training.

[DanielMB]

He is talking about the importance of having an identity, yet he has been here for years without ensuring we have one.

[Blue blood]

6 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

'Only way' - Mowbray on how Rovers can challenge parachute clubs | Lancashire Telegraph

More gobbledygook

According to TM the only two ways are build an identity through a manager OR sack a manager every time they lose a few games and start again. 

Radical school of thought but how about the new manager comes in and y'know does well and gets success. Why is that not even an option? TM hasn't mentioned that which is surprising as that has happened at a number of clubs. Strange - almost as if he isn't trying to present a balanced view. 

Also the £100 million is a lie. Ask Sheffield United, look where Barnsley Reading and the mighty Brentford are. 

Forked tongue whenever he speaks. 

[Blue blood]

1 hour ago, perthblue02 said:

Looks like Sam the winger project will be ongoing next season is TM is still here

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19243106.gallagher-has-adapt-mowbrays-wide-striker-role/

The gall of the man is unbelievable. He references a game from 4 years ago as to proof of it's success. I can name a lot more games from.far more recently where it hasn't worked. 

The stats do him no favours either. Only 2 goals from starts in that position show statistically it isn't working. The fact that 5 come as a substitute, which won't all be right wing appearances, also doesn't support that this is a good idea either. So why persevere. 

The man is a pig headed buffoon. 

[JHRover]

The man is a buffoon but he's also a crafty sod who is very consciously painting an image of continuity and "as you were folks" into the minds of supporters.

A few more weeks of this and a couple more wins in the dead rubbers and it won't need much for him and his acolytes behind the scenes to cart on into another season, claiming that there is a process underway, continuity is needed, development is in progress. 

Not long ago it was a case of getting through the games and then reviewing things in the summer when a parting of the ways would suit all concerned. Prepare yourselves for a shift away from that with a series of interviews like this one to implant reluctance to seek change and convince people that no other manager could match Mowbray's performance and journey.

It would be almost funny if those behind the scenes didn't actually believe it.

By end May there will be no question about the manager's future and the only question will be whether we fans are prepared to tolerate another year of it or cough up another £450 to have the p*ss taken out of us again.

[RevidgeBlue]

8 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

'Only way' - Mowbray on how Rovers can challenge parachute clubs | Lancashire Telegraph

More gobbledygook

I'm sure Sharpe and Mowbray are now delighting in seeing how many different ways they can come up with to take the piss out of the fans.

Mowbray: I've come up with a a unique new way of bridging the gap between us and the Club's with parachute money!

Sharpe: What is it Tone?

Mowbray: You have to have "an identity!" Everything else just falls into place like magic!

Sharpe: Brilliant Tone! You're too good for me mate!

It's absolutely meaningless, the two things are completely unrelated., talk about a non sequitur. The only mystery is how the LT let him get away with it time after time.

You honestly couldn't make this load of old cobblers up and you haven't been able to for quite some time. The only straw I'm grasping onto is that maybe he knows he's gone already and simply doesn't care what he says anymore.

Even then he should be showing the Club a great deal more respect than he has been doing.

[simongarnerisgod]

i think our tony has a massive ego in the managerial sense and compares himself to the very top level,of course he is`nt very good and when it does`nt go right,he blames everyone and everything else for his shortcomings,he`s well shoehorned in at rovers,it`s a dream job for him,only way we`ll be rid is if he either dies,decides himself that he wants to go or some club even more insane than ours decides they want him