Tony Mowbray Discussion

[Paul Mellelieu]

1 hour ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Not confused at all, poor team performances are very much the mowbray norm with the good displays very much the exception, not hard to see why we are where we are. Absolute lack of tactical nous, direction and style 

Not really what I said.

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, Ewood Ace said:

He's gone into full Kean mode now. No doubt the next Rooney, Batistuta, Smalling and Irwin will be coming in next season.

He's never played in the Premier League, Tony lying again.

He only played 10 games for us and got worse the more he played.

[Adam C]

5 hours ago, rog of the rovers said:

Has Tony Mowbray already had his chance to rebuild the club?

Has he been given time?

Has he been supported through long stretches without victories?

Has he been encouraged and respected by the fanbase?

Has he had the chance to buy his own players?

Has he tried to introduce a style and a culture?

Has he been able/encouraged to promote the youth players he feels are good enough?

Has he had to adapt to a changing market, division, expectations?

Has he had the backing of the board and senior managers?

 

If any of the answers above were NO, then I'd be willing to stand by him and give him more time.

 

He's had three and a half seasons in the Championship.

Lets be brutally honest, we're right back where we were when he took over.

 

 

Nailed it. 

[Wheelton Blue]

Unless Sharpe has a direct line into someone higher up the food chain than Waggott, IMO Sharpe won't have a clue whether Mowbray is staying or going.

The whole article and ...'indications are that Rovers will stick by their manager...' are merely based on the latest nonsensical interview with Mowbray himself.

[Bbrovers2288]

1 hour ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

Not really what I said.

Correct me if I’m wrong but you suggested that we started off the season playing well and were confused as to why we couldn’t keep it up? Answered your question perfectly 

[Miller11]

I think it’s been pretty evident he will be here next season for a while. The whole idea of an end of season review is completely stupid, and admittedly therefore plausible with our idiot owners, but if he was going he’d be gone by now.

There’s not a single valid argument for him to still be in the job. None.

I expect that Waggott, a man who since day one has, barring the occasional early platitude positioned himself firmly against the clubs supporters, will double down.

Expect increased ticket prices, aggressive guilt tripping dressed up as a marketing campaign, even more insulting interviews, lies and plenty more dumbing down and running down of our club. Oh, and the continuous reminders of how knowledgeable, humble and passionate Venky’s are, and how we should be grateful to them. The excuses for the record low ST sales will already have been thought up.

They will be hoping for apathy. Ideally enough to have another go at a property development.

 

[DeeCee]

I really, really hate the #&+* 

[tomphil]

30 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

I think it’s been pretty evident he will be here next season for a while. The whole idea of an end of season review is completely stupid, and admittedly therefore plausible with our idiot owners, but if he was going he’d be gone by now.

There’s not a single valid argument for him to still be in the job. None.

I expect that Waggott, a man who since day one has, barring the occasional early platitude positioned himself firmly against the clubs supporters, will double down.

Expect increased ticket prices, aggressive guilt tripping dressed up as a marketing campaign, even more insulting interviews, lies and plenty more dumbing down and running down of our club. Oh, and the continuous reminders of how knowledgeable, humble and passionate Venky’s are, and how we should be grateful to them. The excuses for the record low ST sales will already have been thought up.

They will be hoping for apathy. Ideally enough to have another go at a property development.

 

Yes they'll get their whopping salaries regardless then the low gates will be blamed soley on covid. When the crowd start to tell the manager what they really think it'll be blamed for poor performances.

Perfect storm for these chancers but then again Ewood always will be under this ownership. 

[Mercer]

Shocked and horrified.

It now seems more likely Mowbray will be offered a new extended contract rather than be sacked!  IMO, this is all too reminiscent of the Kean era.

IMO, our club is engulfed by a cancer - I think there is no rhyme or reason behind executive decision making. 

After some 60 years of supporting Rovers through thick, thin and very thin, I am now finished with the club.  Waggott and Mowbray disgust me and by the time they leave town, I dread to think what will be left of our club.  

 

 

Edited April 22, 2021 by Mercer

[Paul Mani]

He won’t be here next season. Will be formally relieved of his duties once the season is finished.

He’s staying to effectively hand over and tie off loose ends. Hence why he knows the budget already. Advising on who needs to be kept on etc.

New broom for a new season!

Edited April 22, 2021 by Paul Mani

[roversfan99]

11 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

He won’t be here next season. Will be formally relieved of his duties once the season is finished.

He’s staying to effectively hand over and tie off loose ends. Hence why he knows the budget already. Advising on who needs to be kept on etc.

New broom for a new season!

Why would he be told the budget if he was going to be removed? Sadly, I think its false hope to think he will be removed.

[Miller11]

9 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

He won’t be here next season. Will be formally relieved of his duties once the season is finished.

He’s staying to effectively hand over and tie off loose ends. Hence why he knows the budget already. Advising on who needs to be kept on etc.

New broom for a new season!

Really hope you are right.

If this is the case though it’s absolute madness! He’s not a competent advisor. A new man should’ve been given enough time to at least assess things themselves, if not to salvage something from this absolutely disastrous campaign.

[roversfan99]

Even if he was to be let go, it is still further incompetence and negligence on behalf of Venkys to allow Mowbray to start telling players that they are staying or going only for him to be removed.

Obviously leaving him as manager would be even more senseless and sadly it seems inevitable.

[Dolly blue]

15 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

He won’t be here next season. Will be formally relieved of his duties once the season is finished.

He’s staying to effectively hand over and tie off loose ends. Hence why he knows the budget already. Advising on who needs to be kept on etc.

New broom for a new season!

Well Paul, I’ve just had a gin...then read this post....thought I’d had one too many .....I don’t know whether to begin to hope ( again ) ...dare I ?? 
Don’t know if it’s a source or a hunch on your part ...but , at least , at least ..........

[Ulrich]

19 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

He won’t be here next season. Will be formally relieved of his duties once the season is finished.

He’s staying to effectively hand over and tie off loose ends. Hence why he knows the budget already. Advising on who needs to be kept on etc.

New broom for a new season!

We don't need Marlon back.

Will Maggot be going with him? He needs removing post haste.

[tomphil]

17 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

He won’t be here next season. Will be formally relieved of his duties once the season is finished.

He’s staying to effectively hand over and tie off loose ends. Hence why he knows the budget already. Advising on who needs to be kept on etc.

New broom for a new season!

Who's hoodwinked you into believing that one ?

Why would anyone in their right minds let a departing manager under a bit of a cloud start deciding who he wants to keep ?  Only way i see that being the case is if they are just rearranging the chairs. He steps aside but stays on in some capacity and Venus and/or Johno stand in the line of fire.

It'll be cooked up by him & Swaggo as well not the owners.

Just watch and see.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, Paul Mani said:

He won’t be here next season. Will be formally relieved of his duties once the season is finished.

He’s staying to effectively hand over and tie off loose ends. Hence why he knows the budget already. Advising on who needs to be kept on etc.

New broom for a new season!

He doesn't sound like a man who's going. He'll be here when the season starts. 

[Paul Mani]

10 minutes ago, Ulrich said:

We don't need Marlon back.

Will Maggot be going with him? He needs removing post haste.

Don’t know about Waggot...

[Gav]

32 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Shocked and horrified.

It now seems more likely Mowbray will be offered a new extended contract rather than be sacked!  IMO, this is all too reminiscent of the Kean era.

IMO, our club is engulfed by a cancer - I think there is no rhyme or reason behind executive decision making. 

After some 60 years of supporting Rovers through thick, thin and very thin, I am now finished with the club.  Waggott and Mowbray disgust me and by the time they leave town, I dread to think what will be left of our club.  

 

 

Come on Mercer, you're far to long in the tooth to believe this nonsense.

The owners are the problem, the managers are just a side show.

593 pages of managerial discussion, when the owners are the real villains. 

If fans can't see that after 10yrs, you're not looking hard enough.

Venkys Out.

Edited April 22, 2021 by Gav

[JHRover]

What happened to the summer review?

For weeks, no months, his story has been that we need to get through the season to the summer and then we can assess, review and see what the owners want to do.

Now all of a sudden he knows his budget, knows who's going, knows who he wants to keep and is planning ahead.

How? When?

[Ewood Ace]

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

What happened to the summer review?

Tony's conducted it already and recommended to India that he stays on.

[Boroblue]

So according to Mowbray for the first time in Venkies entire reign they have proactively decided to keep him in place, organise a budget, decide on contracts and all this without a meeting. Who is he trying to Kid the contract extensions would always have been activated. The more senior pros would always have a decision hanging over them That has not changed. Pickering was always coming.

I think he struggles for something to say and this is the best he can do. It also diverts attention from that on the pitch disaster he’s in the process of over seeing.

The boro big fella has a meeting coming with his masters. Let’s see how he fares then. We should have got used to his blag by now. Absolutely said nothing in that interview. What a load of old guff.

[Mercer]

6 minutes ago, Gav said:

Come on Mercer, you're far to long in the tooth to believe this nonsense.

The owners are the problem, the managers are just a side show.

593 pages of managerial discussion, when the owners are the real villains. 

If fans can't see that after 10yrs, you're not looking hard enough.

Venkys Out.

I think our owners are a problem - how many business folk out there spunk away some £20million a year whilst at the same time, IMO, sit idly by and watch their 'investment' go to rack and ruin.

However, the club's most important senior managers (Waggott and Mowbray) are, IMO, two imbeciles who have been taking the p1ss out of the club and its fans for some time now.

I could just about stomach indifferent ownership if I knew the operational senior management of Rovers had the best interests of the club at heart;  IMO, Waggott and Mowbray fail miserably on this.   

[Gav]

46 minutes ago, Mercer said:

I think our owners are a problem - how many business folk out there spunk away some £20million a year whilst at the same time, IMO, sit idly by and watch their 'investment' go to rack and ruin.

However, the club's most important senior managers (Waggott and Mowbray) are, IMO, two imbeciles who have been taking the p1ss out of the club and its fans for some time now.

I could just about stomach indifferent ownership if I knew the operational senior management of Rovers had the best interests of the club at heart;  IMO, Waggott and Mowbray fail miserably on this.   

It’s a side show, Waggot, Agnew, Shaw, Singh, King rat, Coyle and many more.

Venkys are the problem, they allow the current regime to take the piss out of the fans, 'stomaching' them under any circumstances is a bloody disgrace, now wonder we're in the shit.

Bigger picture FFS.

 

 

Edited April 22, 2021 by Gav

[Gamst]

The most demoralising aspect is that nobody is listening. This is an echo chamber. We now have a manager who's position is untenable talking about plans for next season. His talk of a journey is so far displaced from the truth he is starting to sound like comical Ali. The current plans seem to involve most of the first team squad leaving and the manager who has just presided over one of the worst runs in the clubs history staying. He claims that we play attractive football but I honestly cannot stand watching us passing it about aimlessly like we do at present and the plan seems to be that we keep pushing on with this style of play. Are we truly expected to buy into these plans?? When faced with a situation where ones feelings are completely ignored its healthiest to just disengage (although it's hard for me to imagine disengaging any further than I already have done in the last 3 months!). This is heading in a very bad direction.