Tony Mowbray Discussion

[Roverall]

FROM THE LT comments:

Author: No 9

As manager TM will, I imagine. have a list of priorities in his head for BRFC. These will be, in order -
Survival
Debt reduction
Balancing the books

Assuming he can keep some semblance of control on that, the next list will be -
Sell big-profit player(s)
Buy good prospect inexpensive young players
Loan-in players from (probably) NW big clubs who need play-time for their prospects

Finally (for next season) -
Avoid relegation from the Championship

BRFC needs a manager like TM because he can do all the above. He's a survival manager who knows how to work within the budget HE IS GIVEN.

Promotion to the Premiership? He wants it, of course, but BRFC's survival is FAR FAR more important to all genuine Rovers fans. TM knows that.
Ignore the Ivory Tower contributors on here, they're just on here to wind up the real Rovers fans.
Final point. TM is guiding us through extraordinarily difficult times. Now is NOT the time to take a risk on some glamorous spendthrift. Stick with TM.

Come on you Blues!!

 

Now if that isn't from a club plant I'll be damned!

[rog of the rovers]

It can be put as simply as this

September 2020: Maybe Rovers can push that extra step and gatecrash the top 6.

May 2021: I hope we can avoid relegation next year

[windymiller7]

1 minute ago, Roverall said:

FROM THE LT comments:

Author: No 9

As manager TM will, I imagine. have a list of priorities in his head for BRFC. These will be, in order -
Survival
Debt reduction
Balancing the books

Assuming he can keep some semblance of control on that, the next list will be -
Sell big-profit player(s)
Buy good prospect inexpensive young players
Loan-in players from (probably) NW big clubs who need play-time for their prospects

Finally (for next season) -
Avoid relegation from the Championship

BRFC needs a manager like TM because he can do all the above. He's a survival manager who knows how to work within the budget HE IS GIVEN.

Promotion to the Premiership? He wants it, of course, but BRFC's survival is FAR FAR more important to all genuine Rovers fans. TM knows that.
Ignore the Ivory Tower contributors on here, they're just on here to wind up the real Rovers fans.
Final point. TM is guiding us through extraordinarily difficult times. Now is NOT the time to take a risk on some glamorous spendthrift. Stick with TM.

Come on you Blues!!

 

Now if that isn't from a club plant I'll be damned!

I seriously hope it is, because if that's from a genuine Rovers fan, we've got real problems! Our aim is survival!? WTF?

I haven't posted much for the last week or so as it just gets me wound up, but that's tipped me over the edge again.

FFS just get this mon & his fat mate out of our club, the stench is now unbearable!

[davulsukur]

5 minutes ago, Roverall said:

FROM THE LT comments:

Author: No 9

As manager TM will, I imagine. have a list of priorities in his head for BRFC. These will be, in order -
Survival
Debt reduction
Balancing the books

Assuming he can keep some semblance of control on that, the next list will be -
Sell big-profit player(s)
Buy good prospect inexpensive young players
Loan-in players from (probably) NW big clubs who need play-time for their prospects

Finally (for next season) -
Avoid relegation from the Championship

BRFC needs a manager like TM because he can do all the above. He's a survival manager who knows how to work within the budget HE IS GIVEN.

Promotion to the Premiership? He wants it, of course, but BRFC's survival is FAR FAR more important to all genuine Rovers fans. TM knows that.
Ignore the Ivory Tower contributors on here, they're just on here to wind up the real Rovers fans.
Final point. TM is guiding us through extraordinarily difficult times. Now is NOT the time to take a risk on some glamorous spendthrift. Stick with TM.

Come on you Blues!!

 

Now if that isn't from a club plant I'll be damned!

Bloody hell!

That's it then, the height of our ambition, avoid relegation from the fucking championship?

Cheers Venky's.

[gumboots]

10 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Bloody hell!

That's it then, the height of our ambition, avoid relegation from the fucking championship?

Cheers Venky's.

Its Tony or Steve isn't it?

[tomphil]

That's an absolute PR plant on the LT thing it's always been home to them.

If we are at just avoiding relegation stage now then WTF has the last 3 seasons and it's investment/development been all about ?

Only a pillock would swallow that garbage but that is the blueprint of a club Mowbray & Waggot want to run.  Suits their agenda down to the ground.

[JHRover]

I've no doubt with what is coming that survival will be seen as an achievement next season.

All for the princely sum of £20 million per year. 

Doesn't take long for things to unravel does it?

Failed manager kept in place, clueless owners and drastic budget cuts can turn even a promotion capable side into relegation contenders.

[AllRoverAsia]

First point - Mowbrays career stats show he is not a 'survival' manager. He's actually quite good at leading or preparing teams to relegation.

Second point - How on God's good Earth can a manager be deemed a survival ace when he cannot organise a defence, doesn't do set play coaching and is indifferent to the Table.

That poster has Plant(pot) written all over IT

Edited May 7, 2021 by AllRoverAsia

[Mattyblue]

Good job he told them to ‘slow down’, ay...

[davulsukur]

39 minutes ago, gumboots said:

Its Tony or Steve isn't it?

Has to be one or the other

[LDRover]

1 hour ago, Roverall said:

FROM THE LT comments:

Author: No 9

As manager TM will, I imagine. have a list of priorities in his head for BRFC. These will be, in order -
Survival
Debt reduction
Balancing the books

Assuming he can keep some semblance of control on that, the next list will be -
Sell big-profit player(s)
Buy good prospect inexpensive young players
Loan-in players from (probably) NW big clubs who need play-time for their prospects

Finally (for next season) -
Avoid relegation from the Championship

BRFC needs a manager like TM because he can do all the above. He's a survival manager who knows how to work within the budget HE IS GIVEN.

Promotion to the Premiership? He wants it, of course, but BRFC's survival is FAR FAR more important to all genuine Rovers fans. TM knows that.
Ignore the Ivory Tower contributors on here, they're just on here to wind up the real Rovers fans.
Final point. TM is guiding us through extraordinarily difficult times. Now is NOT the time to take a risk on some glamorous spendthrift. Stick with TM.

Come on you Blues!!

 

Now if that isn't from a club plant I'll be damned!

That's one of the most disheartening posts I've ever read.

[Ghost7]

Are we still 5 or 6 years behind Brentford now?

[gumboots]

More like 25! My husband, being a southerner, has some Brentford supporting relatives. We used to feel sorry for them.....

[tomphil]

Survival manager ????

Since when ?   He's a midtable at best manager with multi million pound annual backing.  Without it he's very much a relegation bound manager, we've already had proof of that.

And before his name was over the door here in the relegation season he took Coventry to the bottom of their league.

[AllRoverAsia]

This is the man who messed up very badly in a 2 team league.

Think about that. It takes some doing.

I wonder what the Clubs PR budget is? Posters on the LT, all over Social Media like a bad rash - doesn't come cheap unless maybe outsourced to a country with a history of call centres and cheap wages.

[RevidgeBlue]

6 hours ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Proof - if any were needed - that he doesn’t speak directly to the owners anymore: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19284989.mowbray-says-summer-spending-must-carefully-calculated/

The parallels with Bowyer are incredible and it will end the same way. But how long is that piece of string?

Getting his excuses in already saying how difficult negotiations are.

He really is pathetic.

Let's hope the fact he appears to have been snubbed by the owners is a clear sign he'll be off after tomorrow's game.

[simongarnerisgod]

please do as she says tony!!!

[tomphil]

17 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

This is the man who messed up very badly in a 2 team league.

Think about that. It takes some doing.

I wonder what the Clubs PR budget is? Posters on the LT, all over Social Media like a bad rash - doesn't come cheap unless maybe outsourced to a country with a history of call centres and cheap wages.

I'd say County rather than Country, very North east of Yorkshire to be precise. 

Offices that say HSH over the door probably.

[tomphil]

24 minutes ago, Meesh said:

'No regrets' over top six comments as Mowbray evaluates season

So Coronavirus is wholly to blame for our dismal season. Of course, we're the only club affected by it, and it only affected us since January when things started getting... better?

Mowbray does not help himself with comments like these.

We knew that one was coming.

[tomphil]

2 minutes ago, Meesh said:

Also, Mowbray unwittingly admits that the teams above us have worse quality players. So it's not the players, it's not the supporters (we're not even there), then it must be... the weather!

But he's spent months bemoaning we don't have parachute money, 100 million etc and we can't compete with those above us.

He's puddled !

[JHRover]

Tony doesn't like making excuses. Except that's what he has done since the day he arrived, especially since we returned to the Championship.

Infact him and his mate Waggott are the excuse makers in chief. Every time they speak they can't help but cover their own failures with a catalogue of excuses for why.

Coronavirus has been a godsend for him on and off the pitch. He's going to spend the rest of his days blaming the pandemic for our diabolical season, of course anyone with an ounce of common sense would question how the pandemic has affected us any more than any other club and point out that everyone has had to deal with these issues.

Off the pitch the empty stadia have enabled him to plod along for months on end with virtually zero hassle or aggravation from anyone, as the only people he sees at the club are those who think he is god's gift or who owe their positions to him.

So those excuses keep on coming thick and fast.

No money/we can't compete/parachute money clubs/well supported clubs - yet £20 million a year and no sales says we can compete, and Derby/Sheff Wed going down shows the old crowds argument to be pointless.

Pandemic - nonsense

Pitch problems - so get it sorted like everyone else does

Injury issues - don't sign crocks

Wage bill too high - don't give multi-year big deals to crocks

Not many fans - how about putting tickets on sale

FFP - everyone has it and manages

Players demanding too much money - nonsense as the Bauer and Ayala fiascos prove the money is there when the boxes are ticked

Hard luck sob stories and excuses. I want a manager with a 'can do' attitude here who doesn't see obstacles everywhere he turns.

 

 

[AllRoverAsia]

“I tried to change the mentality of this football team that we’d come up from League One and sitting in mid-table might have been alright for us while we acclimatised to the league but we have to move on, move the parameters''

The liar re-writing history.

I could almost believe that we had spent decades in L1 and didn't keep most of the squad together, and yet I know we have those who will believe that we had to 'acclimatise' to the heady heights of the Championship.

No shame whatsoever. No apologies and no comprehension that he may be the problem.

Are we back to Year One?

 

[perthblue02]

In this weeks episode of the journey:

Dodgy Tony the bus driver resets the destination on the sat nav while keeping the meter running

The passengers shout in unison "haven't we been past that bit before"

The bus company owners are still watching the cricket and not answering their phones

(Eastenders dramatic drum roll)

[RoverKyle]

13 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

“I tried to change the mentality of this football team that we’d come up from League One and sitting in mid-table might have been alright for us while we acclimatised to the league but we have to move on, move the parameters''

The liar re-writing history.

I could almost believe that we had spent decades in L1 and didn't keep most of the squad together, and yet I know we have those who will believe that we had to 'acclimatise' to the heady heights of the Championship.

No shame whatsoever. No apologies and no comprehension that he may be the problem.

Are we back to Year One?

 

This rhetoric that we had to acclimatise to the Championship after promotion is a load of bull. We only ended up in L1 as our team massively underperformed under a hopeless manager (Coyle). The squad was more than capable of playing in the Championship, as evidenced by our decent form under Mowbray, before we went down. Throwing away the chance to win L1 at the end of the season was all on Mowbray and for me was the start of dumbing down fan expectations.

I'd have kicked him out of the club a season or two ago when he made out that we needed to be worried about Preston. A game in which we went 2 up and ended up losing 3-2. That was my final straw but I will admit he bought himself some time with me last summer when he seemed to be building something. It's his negative mindset though that obviously flows down to the players and we see it every season in our dire spells after January.

This journey that we're apparently on will only have a positive outcome if we replace Mowbray this summer with someone more capable and ambitious. We can't give him another window to waste resources and the opportunity for us to improve. 

Edited May 7, 2021 by RoverKyle

[rigger]

1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said:

please do as she says tony!!!

Watching that has cheered me up, no-end