Tony Mowbray Discussion

[OldEwoodBlue]

Mowbray Out !

[TimmyJimmy]

I think the problem with Mowbray's dressing room is that it's full of 'nice' people. Competitive sport needs spikey personalities, an edge, a bit of ruthlessness and once in a while outright badness. We need grit in the oyster, he's assembled a team of boy scouts.  We're going to win nothing if he continues to buy guys who are in touch with their feelings.

That in a nutshell is why TM will never build a team capable of promotion. We need a couple of evil sods like a Batty or a Keeley. Not going to happen though is it.

Flat caps, rattles and "play up you blues" is a Roy of the Rovers fantasy of a bygone era, the sport of today is a totally different beast and Mowbray is lost in the past.  What holds good for players holds good for managers. Think of spikey managers like Hughes or Warnock, think Ferguson or Souness and compare to TM, who's going to win something and who's not.

Edited May 22, 2021 by TimmyJimmy

[tina]

Or a Speedie. Never in this comfort zone. Interesting when the fans come back. Brentford are really vocal. We'll probably fight with each other like the old days of snakehead and crybaby

[tomphil]

2 hours ago, TimmyJimmy said:

I think the problem with Mowbray's dressing room is that it's full of 'nice' people. Competitive sport needs spikey personalities, an edge, a bit of ruthlessness and once in a while outright badness. We need grit in the oyster, he's assembled a team of boy scouts.  We're going to win nothing if he continues to buy guys who are in touch with their feelings.

That in a nutshell is why TM will never build a team capable of promotion. We need a couple of evil sods like a Batty or a Keeley. Not going to happen though is it.

Flat caps, rattles and "play up you blues" is a Roy of the Rovers fantasy of a bygone era, the sport of today is a totally different beast and Mowbray is lost in the past.  What holds good for players holds good for managers. Think of spikey managers like Hughes or Warnock, think Ferguson or Souness and compare to TM, who's going to win something and who's not.

Exactly, nice lads, nice slow sideways football, nice training ground banter etc.

Nice comfort zone for every one to sit in the middle of the division whilst the gaffer rotates to keep everyone happy.

Best job in the division for any bog average yes man.

[simongarnerisgod]

4 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Exactly, nice lads, nice slow sideways football, nice training ground banter etc.

Nice comfort zone for every one to sit in the middle of the division whilst the gaffer rotates to keep everyone happy.

Best job in the division for any bog average yes man.

sooner or later it`s going to bite him on the arse and we`ll end up in a relegation battle,then he`ll suddenly rediscover his honour and depart halfway through the season with plaudits from his fan club on facebook and in the telegraph☹️

[tina]

Has he gone? Can I return? Sad. Isn't it?

[Ulrich]

5 hours ago, TimmyJimmy said:

I think the problem with Mowbray's dressing room is that it's full of 'nice' people. Competitive sport needs spikey personalities, an edge, a bit of ruthlessness and once in a while outright badness. We need grit in the oyster, he's assembled a team of boy scouts.  We're going to win nothing if he continues to buy guys who are in touch with their feelings.

That in a nutshell is why TM will never build a team capable of promotion. We need a couple of evil sods like a Batty or a Keeley. Not going to happen though is it.

Flat caps, rattles and "play up you blues" is a Roy of the Rovers fantasy of a bygone era, the sport of today is a totally different beast and Mowbray is lost in the past.  What holds good for players holds good for managers. Think of spikey managers like Hughes or Warnock, think Ferguson or Souness and compare to TM, who's going to win something and who's not.

Our dressing room is full of players who don't question TM, weak mentally as strength of mind speaks and says when they think a boss is wrong.  He surrounds himself with yes men and anyone who disagress gets shunted.  Tm is a pathetic man, he cannot take critique as demonstrated by the comments he makes from the fans.  He is no leader and until the muppet goes we will continue to sign 'yes' men and weak players mentally.

[RoversClitheroe]

Let's hope the (now probably very old) rumours of Mowbray leaving end of May are true. We have pretty much 5 more days.

Has anyone heard anything more on it?

[Mike E]

On 22/05/2021 at 11:07, TimmyJimmy said:

I think the problem with Mowbray's dressing room is that it's full of 'nice' people. Competitive sport needs spikey personalities, an edge, a bit of ruthlessness and once in a while outright badness. We need grit in the oyster, he's assembled a team of boy scouts.  We're going to win nothing if he continues to buy guys who are in touch with their feelings.

That in a nutshell is why TM will never build a team capable of promotion. We need a couple of evil sods like a Batty or a Keeley. Not going to happen though is it.

Flat caps, rattles and "play up you blues" is a Roy of the Rovers fantasy of a bygone era, the sport of today is a totally different beast and Mowbray is lost in the past.  What holds good for players holds good for managers. Think of spikey managers like Hughes or Warnock, think Ferguson or Souness and compare to TM, who's going to win something and who's not.

YES YES YES!

Think of the dressing room Hughesy cultivated, full of hard bastards and several international captains.

Savage, Mokoena, Nelsen, Samba, Warnock, Bellamy, Roberts.

All complementing a squad already containing Friedel, Short, Flitcroft, Todd, Reid, Neill, Tugay.

[tomphil]

8 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Let's hope the (now probably very old) rumours of Mowbray leaving end of May are true. We have pretty much 5 more days.

Has anyone heard anything more on it?

Without actually coming out and saying 'nah nah na nah nah - i'm staying and there is fook all you can do about it' to the majority who've had enough of his self serving tripe. The guy himself has pretty much told everybody by his actions and statements that he's going nowhere. The stuff he's been doing with the squad rubber stamps this.

I think he'd have to be surgically removed from his Ewood comfort zone. Along with his little group and to the cost of several million quid.

So anyone still clinging to anything, which was only ever based on assumption wherever its come from, needs to take the top off the coffee pot and have a good old sniff.

Prepare the groundhog instead.

[RoversClitheroe]

1 hour ago, tomphil said:

Without actually coming out and saying 'nah nah na nah nah - i'm staying and there is fook all you can do about it' to the majority who've had enough of his self serving tripe. The guy himself has pretty much told everybody by his actions and statements that he's going nowhere. The stuff he's been doing with the squad rubber stamps this.

I think he'd have to be surgically removed from his Ewood comfort zone. Along with his little group and to the cost of several million quid.

So anyone still clinging to anything, which was only ever based on assumption wherever its come from, needs to take the top off the coffee pot and have a good old sniff.

Prepare the groundhog instead.

We're getting relegated aren't we? 😫😔

[dallydally]

12 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Let's hope the (now probably very old) rumours of Mowbray leaving end of May are true. We have pretty much 5 more days.

Has anyone heard anything more on it?

There's nothing to hear. Mowbray is going nowhere

[lraC]

I tend to agree that he is going nowhere, which is why the badly advised crew are still so wide of the mark, it is untrue.

Assuming they still know the square root of FA about football, someone must have advised them that keeping him, is the way forward, yet I don't know of any poster on here, who thinks that is good advice. Yet again, they have someone advising them, who is more interested in their own agenda, than the long term good of the club..

Will they ever listen and will the club ever make any proper progress with these owners? 

Answers on a postcode, but don't bother sending it to India.

[JohnGo]

Who should take over, and don’t rattle out the same old boring names, Warnock, McCarthy, etc, etc. Where’s the next Eddie Howe who’s going to take us to the promised land?

[Blue blood]

6 minutes ago, JohnGo said:

Who should take over, and don’t rattle out the same old boring names, Warnock, McCarthy, etc, etc. Where’s the next Eddie Howe who’s going to take us to the promised land?

You mean two blokes who have had their clubs doing significantly better than us in a fraction of the time spent at the club? 

Am happy with the next Eddie Howe too but any competence - old school or new - would be very welcome. 

[K-Hod]

8 minutes ago, JohnGo said:

Who should take over, and don’t rattle out the same old boring names, Warnock, McCarthy, etc, etc. Where’s the next Eddie Howe who’s going to take us to the promised land?

What’s wrong with managers that have better track records than the guy in the hot seat who’s underachieved so much?

[matt83]

I’d even settle for somebody random out of the phone book that won’t talk as much shite as Tonebola.

Mowbray hadn’t exactly set a high bar. Well bank rolling league one in order to force our way past the mighty Shrewsbury to a runners up position aside. 

Edited May 25, 2021 by matt83

[JHRover]

Mick McCarthy lost 3 of his 22 games at Cardiff. They'd lost 6 on the bounce before he went in

What is old or boring about that?

[chaddyrovers]

45 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

What’s wrong with managers that have better track records than the guy in the hot seat who’s underachieved so much?

Warnock isnt going to leave Boro for us. Dont forget the mess that after during the summer when he was set to take over before we appointed Coyle. 

Nothing wrong with looking at all different options out there. There is good options out there we could get if we had vacancy

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Mick McCarthy lost 3 of his 22 games at Cardiff. They'd lost 6 on the bounce before he went in

What is old or boring about that?

Is he going to Cardiff to come here? 

[JHRover]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Warnock isnt going to leave Boro for us. Dont forget the mess that after during the summer when he was set to take over before we appointed Coyle. 

Nothing wrong with looking at all different options out there. There is good options out there we could get if we had vacancy

Is he going to Cardiff to come here? 

We had almost a year to appoint him after he left the Ireland job and he was desperate to get back into the Championship. We could have been proactive and made a move.

We missed the boat. Cardiff got themselves a good manager and we are still lumbered with a poor one.

Can say the same for Forest with Hughton and Middlesbrough with Warnock.

These sort of managers aren't gambles.

[LDRover]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Is he going to Cardiff to come here? 

Well it depends where he's setting off from.

If he's in West Wales it makes sense to go on the M4/M5/M6. But if he's say, in Barnsley, it would be silly to go via Cardiff.

Edited May 25, 2021 by LDRover

[JohnGo]

Same old arguments, same old boring football tactics, bla, bla, bla. Have you guys no ambition to have football like we had in the 90’s? Your not reaching for the sky, you can’t get out the basement. I don’t know who’s available and don’t profess to know the pro game around Europe. I’ll say again can we find the next Howe or in Europe Nuno.

[lraC]

It's still the usual problem, no one will succeed whilst Venky's own the club, no matter how good the are.

 

Lambert was off like a shot, once he realised what they were all about and although he may not have been the answer, he certainly wasn't going to be messed about.

Tony is happy to toe the line, hence their reluctance to part company with him.

[tomphil]

They are sold on Tony & Waggos plans because they are preaching cost cutting and growing to sell now.

The fact that it will end up in league 1 again is completely lost on the ownership. Because they don't want the hassle of doing anything other than signing off the same budget every year.

[K-Hod]

24 minutes ago, JohnGo said:

Same old arguments, same old boring football tactics, bla, bla, bla. Have you guys no ambition to have football like we had in the 90’s? Your not reaching for the sky, you can’t get out the basement. I don’t know who’s available and don’t profess to know the pro game around Europe. I’ll say again can we find the next Howe or in Europe Nuno.

Only ambition I’ve got is for Rovers to get promoted. If that involves functional (what you’ve called boring) football, then so be it. 
Beats watching us pass it around aimlessly and have about two shots in a game....

(P.S- final time I’ll recommend you locating your nearest charm school and graduating from it).