Tony Mowbray Discussion

[tomphil]

10 hours ago, Tom said:

Unusual that we haven’t heard the usual platitudes from Tony today with the only quotes on the back of signing Edun presumably before the disappointment later on 

Is he fed up himself?

I don't see how he can be expecting any sort of backing now to be honest. He himself knows that for our income hes had tremendous backing compared to similar clubs in his entire time here.

He spaffed 12 million on 2 forwards years ago and only recently do we see any green shoots from either. He just about covered that with the sale of Armstrong but that was 4 years in the making nearly. Also he fell out with then nudged out a keeper for 3 million who is now probably worth triple that.

The likes of Downing will have cost over a million in his brief stint here and there are other examples. So he's still in debt to them to the tune of millions on any balance sheet although of course selling a fit Dack would've balanced it.

Pray we don't have to wait another 4 years for him to produce and sell another over 10 million !

Edited September 2, 2021 by tomphil

[JohnGo]

1 hour ago, benhben said:

Not seen him play but reading a report from one of our pre-season friendlies Garrett sounded quite promising and did well against a decent side (Leeds?). Sounded like a 6ft+ centre mid who enjoyed a tackle. If hes decent ive no problem giving one of our youngers some game time but agree we are short if no-one comes through.

Johnson is back training but that doesnt fill me with any excitement. 

Garrett is class I’ve watched him for the u23 against Everton and Leicester. In both games he was the best on the park. He’s represented England at all age groups until he had a bad injury. I don’t think he’ll be far off the first team by Christmas. Then again he’s got to get past Mowbray and Uranus!

[TheRoversReturn]

11 hours ago, Tom said:

Unusual that we haven’t heard the usual platitudes from Tony today with the only quotes on the back of signing Edun presumably before the disappointment later on 

Is he fed up himself?

He's sounded fed up all year. He'd have loved a pay-off and could be on his allotment right now rather than having to go into work every day. He'd love to be furloughed on full pay for no work, most people would!

[roverandout]

43 minutes ago, tomphil said:

I don't see how he can be expecting any sort of backing now to be honest. He himself knows that for our income hes had tremendous backing compared to similar clubs in his entire time here.

He spaffed 12 million on 2 forwards years ago and only recently do we see any green shoots from either. He just about covered that with the sale of Armstrong but that was 4 years in the making nearly. Also he fell out with then nudged out a keeper for 3 million who is now probably worth triple that.

The likes of Downing will have cost over a million in his brief stint here and there are other examples. So he's still in debt to them to the tune of millions on any balance sheet although of course selling a fit Dack would've balanced it.

Pray we don't have to wait another 4 years for him to produce and sell another over 10 million !

The last paragraph.  Whaaaat?? I don't want him here for another 6 months never mind 4 years

[perthblue02]

11 hours ago, Tom said:

Unusual that we haven’t heard the usual platitudes from Tony today with the only quotes on the back of signing Edun presumably before the disappointment later on 

Is he fed up himself?

miserable about the biscuit run cutbacks, gone are the M& S chocolate selection now its a nip across the road to Aldi

[1864roverite]

12 hours ago, Tom said:

Unusual that we haven’t heard the usual platitudes from Tony today with the only quotes on the back of signing Edun presumably before the disappointment later on 

Is he fed up himself?

Absolutely spot on! He has never been short coming forward whining or moaning and even trying to offer explanations or apportioning blame into others than himself! His silence alongside the missing maggot is deafening to say the least !

[RoverDom]

The international break doesn't usually fall now dose it? I.e. straight after the window shutting. Usually he'd have to be doing pre match press conferences within a couple of days so he'd have to face the music straight away. Could he be taking advantage of the break knowing that the next prematch conference is over a week after the window  shuts so he can trot out the "pffft that was ages ago, it is what it is" line

[Hasta]

10 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

West Brom are a PL squad. We aren't. I'm not comparing us to them and imo we shouldn't be compare to them

Not they aren't. They were proven not good enough to be a premier league squad last season and that's why they are in our division.

They are obviously one the best sides in the league but if we have any ambition or belief we can ever get promoted then of course we should be comparing ourselves to them.

West Brom may have scraped a last minute win against Peterborough but in that game it didn't look like two teams from different leagues

 

 

[roversfan99]

4 hours ago, benhben said:

Not seen him play but reading a report from one of our pre-season friendlies Garrett sounded quite promising and did well against a decent side (Leeds?). Sounded like a 6ft+ centre mid who enjoyed a tackle. If hes decent ive no problem giving one of our youngers some game time but agree we are short if no-one comes through.

Johnson is back training but that doesnt fill me with any excitement. 

I would have let Johnson go but to be honest, there is a strong case to get him into the team next Saturday.

In these last few games, there has been a whole lot of nothingness in our midfield, Buckley, Clarkson and Rothwell all repeatedly ineffective, with Travis trying (and obviously struggling) to get a grip of the midfield in those games. Johnson would bring some physicality and experience.

[Mercer]

14 hours ago, Tom said:

Unusual that we haven’t heard the usual platitudes from Tony today with the only quotes on the back of signing Edun presumably before the disappointment later on 

Is he fed up himself?

I think it is fair to assume all is not hunky dory at Rovers.

I get the impression that morale is generally poor among staff.

A number of us thought Mowbray would be through the exit door in days following the home defeat to Bournemouth back in April.

IMO, there is neither rhyme nor reason behind many decisions made at Rovers.

I think there is an air of unpredictability and idiosyncrasy about Rovers and despite having got off to a decent start and the closure of the transfer window, it would not surprise me in the least if we soon saw the departure of Mowbray.   

Edited September 2, 2021 by Mercer

[roversfan99]

There isnt a game until next Saturday though, aside from a few snippets about the signings, would it be normal for the manager to do an interview in the first week of an international break?

1 minute ago, Mercer said:

I think it is fair to assume all is not hunky dory at Rovers.

I get the impression that morale is generally poor among staff.

A number of us thought Mowbray would be through the exit door in days following the home defeat to Bournemouth back in April.

IMO, there is neither rhyme nor reason behind many decisions made at Rovers.

I think there is an air of unpredictability and idiosyncrasy about Rovers and despite having got off to a decent start and the closure of the transfer window, it would not surprise in the least if we soon saw the departure of Mowbray.   

 

 

 

You say similar on a continuous basis. A stopped clock and all that...

[Bigdoggsteel]

49 minutes ago, Mercer said:

I think it is fair to assume all is not hunky dory at Rovers.

I get the impression that morale is generally poor among staff.

A number of us thought Mowbray would be through the exit door in days following the home defeat to Bournemouth back in April.

IMO, there is neither rhyme nor reason behind many decisions made at Rovers.

I think there is an air of unpredictability and idiosyncrasy about Rovers and despite having got off to a decent start and the closure of the transfer window, it would not surprise me in the least if we soon saw the departure of Mowbray.   

I don't get that in the slightest from the players TBH. Surprised, but it looks the opposite. The moral and team spirit is better here than I recall since we went down from the PL. For all that's going on(or not going on) I don't see how anyone could disagree that the moral and team spirit is really excellent. 

[blue_n_white99]

Am I the only clown on here who reads LT comments even though I know the vast majority are going to drive me mental.

[joey_big_nose]

26 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I don't get that in the slightest from the players TBH. Surprised, but it looks the opposite. The moral and team spirit is better here than I recall since we went down from the PL. For all that's going on(or not going on) I don't see how anyone could disagree that the moral and team spirit is really excellent. 

I agree - feels like morale should be rock bottom but seems the opposite from the performances.

I guess a lot of the kids will be energised that they have a real opportunity to further their careers significantly.

When we get on the wrong end of some results though it might turn quickly though.

That's always been the way with Mowbrays teams. Great when on a run, but really sink in the mire.

[roverandout]

28 minutes ago, blue_n_white99 said:

Am I the only clown on here who reads LT comments even though I know the vast majority are going to drive me mental.

Yep me too. Lots of happy clappers on there. I'm just deranged I guess

[Bigdoggsteel]

12 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

I agree - feels like morale should be rock bottom but seems the opposite from the performances.

I guess a lot of the kids will be energised that they have a real opportunity to further their careers significantly.

When we get on the wrong end of some results though it might turn quickly though.

That's always been the way with Mowbrays teams. Great when on a run, but really sink in the mire.

This is it, so I cautiously say what I did! Its the resilience and bouncebackability thats so important and will tell a story 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

This is it, so I cautiously say what I did! Its the resilience and bouncebackability thats so important and will tell a story 

It's more morale with the non playing staff within the Club that has been at absolute rock bottom I'd say.

A very unhappy and divided camp by all accounts.

No prizes for guessing which 3 or 4 staff have been on the right side of the divide until now.

 

 

[Bigdoggsteel]

19 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It's more morale with the non playing staff within the Club that has been at absolute rock bottom I'd say.

A very unhappy and divided camp by all accounts.

No prizes for guessing which 3 or 4 staff have been on the right side of the divide until now.

 

 

Why would the non playing staff be unhappy? Have there been paycuts? 

[Paul Mellelieu]

Suspect that when we reach 666 pages, something will happen.  

[JacknOry]

2 hours ago, blue_n_white99 said:

Am I the only clown on here who reads LT comments even though I know the vast majority are going to drive me mental.

Nope - just did it. They're even having digs at Sharpe for being for suggesting there are 'discerning voices'. Has the fanbase ever been so split? How can one side be so far away from the other? I just cannot see their logic and apparently they cannot see the logic of those with opposing views. 

Many here want Sharpe to ask questions, on there they want him to leave TM and Waggott alone.

[JacknOry]

1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Why would the non playing staff be unhappy? Have there been paycuts? 

Think J*B said Waggott has stopped giving them free season tickets as part of their perks. Something they've had for many many years. That's gonna hurt morale if true.

 

Edited September 2, 2021 by JacknOry

[Dreams of 1995]

19 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

Think J*B said Waggott has stopped giving them free season tickets as part of their perks. Something they've had for many many years. That's gonna hurt morale if true.

 

You cant serious lol 

Has he genuinely done that? The bloke is such a used car salesman. He’s a hawk, after every last penny he can grab, before he moves on to another place 

Seriously can’t wait until he buggers off. One in a long list of people having Venkys pants pulled down….

Or do they know?

[chaddyrovers]

5 hours ago, Hasta said:

Not they aren't. They were proven not good enough to be a premier league squad last season and that's why they are in our division.

They are obviously one the best sides in the league but if we have any ambition or belief we can ever get promoted then of course we should be comparing ourselves to them.

West Brom may have scraped a last minute win against Peterborough but in that game it didn't look like two teams from different leagues

 

 

But the vast majority of that squad was in the PL last season and are very physical side.  

I would say them and Fulham will be top 2 unless they have very poor run of form.

I didn't see the Peterborough vs West Brom game at all so unable to comment on that game specifically 

3 hours ago, Mercer said:

I get the impression that morale is generally poor among staff.

A number of us thought Mowbray would be through the exit door in days following the home defeat to Bournemouth back in April.

 

Are we talking staff in the club offices, club shop, etc? cos the playing squad morale looks strong, toughness and we wont be beaten attitude. 

Its appears that the club look and spoke to different options about replacing him but they weren't interested enough from what different posters have posted recently. It will be interested to see what they did regarding Mowbray after this season and if we went on a bad run would they look to replace him and with who

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

There isnt a game until next Saturday though, aside from a few snippets about the signings, would it be normal for the manager to do an interview in the first week of an international break?

You are correct there roversfan99 that the manager normally would do some in house Rovers interview. But Bayes, Sharpe and Crooke won't interview him until the Thursday before the Luton game. I'm sure they have asked the club for an interview with either Waggott or Mowbray over the lack of permanent striker signing this week but whether they get it debateable. 

Mowbray needs to get on the training ground and start working on the tactics for Luton game and keep coaching our young squad. 

[RevidgeBlue]

4 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Why would the non playing staff be unhappy? Have there been paycuts? 

All sorts of things I think.

[RevidgeBlue]

3 hours ago, JacknOry said:

Nope - just did it. They're even having digs at Sharpe for being for suggesting there are 'discerning voices'. Has the fanbase ever been so split? How can one side be so far away from the other? I just cannot see their logic and apparently they cannot see the logic of those with opposing views. 

Many here want Sharpe to ask questions, on there they want him to leave TM and Waggott alone.

Yes, unbelievably the incredible bland Sharpe was getting pelters on the LT website earlier.

After writing a completely non judgmental piece on the transfer window he  dared to suggest in the last two or three lines that the current policy of bringing in loans and failing to tie our own players down on deals could come back to haunt us in 12  months time.

Many suggesting his articles were clickbait to get people to read them!

Quite astonishing.

I generally find his articles so boring as to be not worth reading as they're just repeating what Mowbray or Waggott have said without any independent analysis or opinion.