Tony Mowbray Discussion

[TheRoversReturn]

TM on his way out?!? Hmmmm....I'll believe it when I see it. I suppose if people keep saying it's gonna happen enough times for long enough that when it does happen they can say, "See! I told you so!" Not advisable to hold one's breath under these owners, however...

Don't worry guys, once Venky's realise that they've been badly advised for...oooh, 10, 11, 12 years or whatever it is now, they'll pot Tony and start to run the club in the way it should be run.

Edited September 9, 2021 by TheRoversReturn

[Sparks Rover]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

By doing business in a timely fashion you can overcome any unexpected last minute curve balls and move onto an alternative.

He's lying. You can tell, no names, no real information.   

He has no personality that a young lad would buy into. His attitude is old fashioned and I bet IF there was any potential last day arrivals, his slow miserable drone and his mate Ming looking shifty will have frightened em off.  No inspiration or anything, the young lads won't know Mogadon was a player or anything like that.  Just some grey old fart in tracksuit

Need a clear out of management quickly.

Edited September 9, 2021 by Sparks Rover

[Ulrich]

7 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

He's lying. You can tell, no names, no real information.   

He has no personality that a young lad would buy into. His attitude is old fashioned and I bet IF there was any potential last day arrivals, his slow miserable drone and his mate Ming looking shifty will have frightened em off.  No inspiration or anything, the young lads won't know Mogadon was a player or anything like that.  Just some grey old fart in tracksuit

Need a clear out of management quickly.

I have highlighted this point before, when you listen to TM talk, he just talks gibberish. If the latest LT article contains direct quotes, then I can understand why players would not be interested in coming here. He just doesn't make sense and training etc with him giving the instructions must be so confusing.

[OldEwoodBlue]

Don't worry folks...

In today's episode, Dack is on the cusp of back... lyca new signing.

[Gav]

7 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

He's lying. You can tell, no names, no real information.   

You leave Revidge and Mercer alone, have some respect please Sparks 😉

[AllRoverAsia]

1 hour ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

Don't worry folks...

In today's episode, Dack is on the cusp of back... lyca new signing.

Much ado about nothing apart from yet again telling us how hard he and his BF Park work.

This man gives tripe a bad name.

Dack comments a red herring thrown to the FB fanboys.

[roverandout]

25 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Much ado about nothing apart from yet again telling us how hard he and his BF Park work.

This man gives tripe a bad name.

Dack comments a red herring thrown to the FB fanboys.

And they lap it up

[tomphil]

An eternal defeatist whose very first thought on everything is to get the excuses in first.

[G Somerset Rover]

3 hours ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

Don't worry folks...

In today's episode, Dack is on the cusp of back... lyca new signing.

Wait til Trav gets injured and then it'll be "Wait til Dack and Trav are back" once again. 

[Wheelton Blue]

53 minutes ago, tomphil said:

An eternal defeatist whose very first thought on everything is to get the excuses in first.

Exactly.

It's all about why things can't or didn't happen, rather than making sure that they can or did happen.

[tomphil]

Hes constantly blamed the finances in the past when these alleged advanced efforts to sign some have fallen down. Can't really do that this time after a big sale so now it's not financial.

Well what is it then ?   Probably more worrying hearing that for once it isn't money.

[arbitro]

Mowbray has an honours degree in talking a lot without actually saying anything. What is the point of saying all he did about potential new players being 'in the building' without giving reasons for them not signing? And once again I question all this last minute panic trying to bring players in when the clock is certainly against him.

 

[tomphil]

Not sure how serious they actually are with some of these players they so called go for on permanents.  Seem quick enough to guarantee other clubs loanees game time and of course would he have let an ex boro boy leave the building without signing ?

[Bigdoggsteel]

6 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Not sure how serious they actually are with some of these players they so called go for on permanents.  Seem quick enough to guarantee other clubs loanees game time and of course would he have let an ex boro boy leave the building without signing ?

I think the loans who played deserved to though and Braintwaithe wasn't guaranteed game time. The only one you could argue didnt was Douglas and then you remember his competition was Bell. Elliott is starting for Liverpool now and THB will be playing in the Champions league. I don't think any loans were unfairly given game time. Who do you think was? 

[RoversClitheroe]

11 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

The only one you could argue didnt was Douglas and then you remember his competition was Bell.

Bell who's doing better than our left back for a team that's worse than ours?

[Bigdoggsteel]

2 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Bell who's doing better than our left back for a team that's worse than ours?

Was Bell shite when here, yes or no? 

Whats the metric you are using to say Luton are worse? Didn't they finish above us last season? 

Edited September 10, 2021 by Bigdoggsteel

[tomphil]

12 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I think the loans who played deserved to though and Braintwaithe wasn't guaranteed game time. The only one you could argue didnt was Douglas and then you remember his competition was Bell. Elliott is starting for Liverpool now and THB will be playing in the Champions league. I don't think any loans were unfairly given game time. Who do you think was? 

I'm thinking more that there might be issues regarding game time in talks with permanent players. Like some lad coming ready to sign having agreed terms to be then told he'll be behind a loanee kid in the pecking order initially.

When the recruitment team, agents, the ceo, owners and all that have done their bit in getting the player there terms agreed it's the managers job to bag him.

Not sure how many options someone like Bell had but he mentioned the drive and ambition of the selling job Lutons manager did. Remarking he'd never come across that before which i thought might have been a bit of a ref to Mowbray.

Of course it could be down to medical but that kind of thing usually leaks out pretty quick.

[Bigdoggsteel]

7 minutes ago, tomphil said:

I'm thinking more that there might be issues regarding game time in talks with permanent players. Like some lad coming ready to sign having agreed terms to be then told he'll be behind a loanee kid in the pecking order initially.

When the recruitment team, agents, the ceo, owners and all that have done their bit in getting the player there terms agreed it's the managers job to bag him.

Not sure how many options someone like Bell had but he mentioned the drive and ambition of the selling job Lutons manager did. Remarking he'd never come across that before which i thought might have been a bit of a ref to Mowbray.

Of course it could be down to medical but that kind of thing usually leaks out pretty quick.

I can't imagine Mowbray is saying this to any players, why would he? I would say it's just a case that they have better options. We have a wage cap and we are competing with so many clubs for the same players. Plus I'm sure some players are swayed by the managers personality, but this works both ways and many players have said they have signed because of Mowbrays love for the game. 

[AllRoverAsia]

45 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Mowbray has an honours degree in talking a lot without actually saying anything. What is the point of saying all he did about potential new players being 'in the building' without giving reasons for them not signing? And once again I question all this last minute panic trying to bring players in when the clock is certainly against him.

 

I think those 'players' were in the unfinished and deteriorating 'building' of Mowbray's mind.

A story based on fantasy and fiction cobbled together to fool the foolish.

I mean all those players in the building and not one signs and no reason given.

I'd rather believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny.

[tomphil]

17 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I can't imagine Mowbray is saying this to any players, why would he? I would say it's just a case that they have better options. We have a wage cap and we are competing with so many clubs for the same players. Plus I'm sure some players are swayed by the managers personality, but this works both ways and many players have said they have signed because of Mowbrays love for the game. 

Of course he'll say it if that's what he thinks especially if it's a player who he might not really want but just needs bodies. Then it's up to the lad himself, TM prides himself on his 'honesty'. It's well documented that other people bring in players so if the manager isn't that keen having been presented with someone i think it'll show in face to face talks.

He's already said it wasn't financial and i haven't seen that he's signed anywhere better.

 

[Bigdoggsteel]

17 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Of course he'll say it if that's what he thinks especially if it's a player who he might not really want but just needs bodies. Then it's up to the lad himself, TM prides himself on his 'honesty'. It's well documented that other people bring in players so if the manager isn't that keen having been presented with someone i think it'll show in face to face talks.

He's already said it wasn't financial and i haven't seen that he's signed anywhere better.

 

Who is the player you're referring to? 

I just don't believe he would be telling potential new signings that loans would be starting ahead of them and that is the reason they won't sign. Its just money, club(company) culture and personality of the manager, like all jobs. 

[martonrover]

42 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Who is the player you're referring to? 

I just don't believe he would be telling potential new signings that loans would be starting ahead of them and that is the reason they won't sign. Its just money, club(company) culture and personality of the manager, like all jobs. 

I’m not so sure about that.

Mowbray is on record as telling the centre back from Charlton we were chasing, (a couple of years ago), that he wouldn’t be going straight into contention for the first team .

‘Personality’ of the manager being a factor I can agree with.

[Sparks Rover]

1 hour ago, tomphil said:

Of course he'll say it if that's what he thinks especially if it's a player who he might not really want but just needs bodies. Then it's up to the lad himself, TM prides himself on his 'honesty'. It's well documented that other people bring in players so if the manager isn't that keen having been presented with someone i think it'll show in face to face talks.

He's already said it wasn't financial and i haven't seen that he's signed anywhere better.

 

Or he's just making the whole thing up.🤷‍♂️

[tomphil]

1 hour ago, Sparks Rover said:

Or he's just making the whole thing up.🤷‍♂️

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's poss massaging the truth a bit.

[tomphil]

2 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Who is the player you're referring to? 

I just don't believe he would be telling potential new signings that loans would be starting ahead of them and that is the reason they won't sign. Its just money, club(company) culture and personality of the manager, like all jobs. 

Maja is the one we are on about being in the building i assume. Not seen that he's joined anybody better than us though might be wrong.

From what iv'e read it was basically a done deal all set up but somewhere between him turning up to sign and deadline it's not happened.