roverandout Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 3 hours ago, PeteJD13 said: No so sure why Mowbray would be about to lose his job when we’re 8th, if we are still top 10 in three months I’d expect him to get a new deal. Well Steve kean got the sack/pushed out when rovers were fourth Quote
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MarkBRFC Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, roverandout said: Well Steve kean got the sack/pushed out when rovers were fourth Long, long time ago that was. No wonder Mowbray says he doesn't worry about contracts or ask for them, him and his mate will probably just draw there own up. Noticed he's 57. I reckon he will want to stick it out until he's 60 then retire. 2 Quote
roverblue Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Wheelton Blue said: 5 of the 7 sides we've played are in the bottom half; 3 of which are in the bottom 5. Hardly 'better sides'. You can spin this anyway you like, all of the sides we played bar Nottingham Forest finished above us last season (and Hull who were in League 1). Away points at Millwall, Boro and a win at Forest are great results. Beating Swansea (last season play off finalists) at home another great result, plus a great result Tuesday night after a really below par first half. The negativity on this forum is incredible at times just enjoy the form whilst it lasts! 5 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 3 hours ago, roverblue said: For me almost all of our problems are off field issues with the contract situation, crowds, transfers etc. which aren't down to Mowbray. They're 100% down to him. 8 Quote
Wheelton Blue Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, roverblue said: The negativity on this forum is incredible at times just enjoy the form whilst it lasts! Negativity or realism? I fully intend to enjoy it .. while it lasts. 1 Quote
roverblue Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: They're 100% down to him. Pretty sure Mowbray doesn't set ticket prices, makes offers and budgets for player signings or signs off on players wages. That would be the owners/Waggots job. 1 Quote
davulsukur Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 6 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Or a man who knows he off at the end of the season? I don't understand why we are just keeping him on until the end of the season if we don't want him long term? Likely to miss out on other managerial targets whilst we wait for the season the pan out. We still have to pay his wages for the remained of his contract either way, so what difference does it make if we sacked him now? Quote
Gav Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: They're 100% down to him. 110% down to Venkys. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, davulsukur said: I don't understand why we are just keeping him on until the end of the season if we don't want him long term? Likely to miss out on other managerial targets whilst we wait for the season the pan out. We still have to pay his wages for the remained of his contract either way, so what difference does it make if we sacked him now? I guess they are seeing how he does before letting him go or renewing his contract. I don't think they should renew his contract at the end of the season. unless we do the unthinkable and get promote. but I do see a different manager this season with this young team than previous years/season. I don't hate or have any angry towards him as person or manager but I do think he should have been replace last season/summer. Plus keeping who is available manager wise. Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: I hope you don't believe that Chaddy? 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 tony don`t half contradict himself,the alcies who sit on the benches in chorley bottoms talk more sense 2 Quote
Boroblue Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 11 hours ago, PeteJD13 said: No so sure why Mowbray would be about to lose his job when we’re 8th, if we are still top 10 in three months I’d expect him to get a new deal. I haven’t read all the responses because I’ve just got in. I’ll answer that for you from experience because by Christmas or shortly after we will be on a long losing streak. I’ll guarantee that it’s a given 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 12 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said: No one read Mowbrays article in the LT - sounds like he doesn't believe in contracts. Or he's a man under pressure and about to lose his job? I don't get why you repeatedly get your hopes up over very little. If he didn't get sacked after a season of obvious regression, he isn't going to 7 games later when we have had a good start. Quote
davulsukur Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 13 hours ago, PeteJD13 said: No so sure why Mowbray would be about to lose his job when we’re 8th, if we are still top 10 in three months I’d expect him to get a new deal. It's something Venkys would do, which is a worry. The earliest they should be thinking about giving him a new deal is at the end of the season, unless he has us on the most unlikeliest of automatic promotion charges or a sustained stay in the top 6, neither of which are happening. He took us on an absolutely horrific run which lasted a good chunk of the season putting us as close to a relegation battle as he could. He has form for these abysmal runs too, they aren't new. Barring a miracle, end of the season at the earliest should be the time they even consider handing him a new deal, even then it would have to be on the back of a terrific season. Reality is, they should be looking and sounding out new managers right now. 1 Quote
JohnGo Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 Not to worry I’ve heard from a good source in Italian football that Capello has been sounded out as a short term replacement for Mowbray. His salary would not be included in FFP, so not a problem. Quote
Paul Mellelieu Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 6 hours ago, JohnGo said: Not to worry I’ve heard from a good source in Italian football that Capello has been sounded out as a short term replacement for Mowbray. His salary would not be included in FFP, so not a problem. Sounds like you been on the Italian sauce rather than source. 4 Quote
Lucimo Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 14 hours ago, davulsukur said: It's something Venkys would do, which is a worry. The earliest they should be thinking about giving him a new deal is at the end of the season, unless he has us on the most unlikeliest of automatic promotion charges or a sustained stay in the top 6, neither of which are happening. He took us on an absolutely horrific run which lasted a good chunk of the season putting us as close to a relegation battle as he could. He has form for these abysmal runs too, they aren't new. Barring a miracle, end of the season at the earliest should be the time they even consider handing him a new deal, even then it would have to be on the back of a terrific season. Reality is, they should be looking and sounding out new managers right now. Well it doesn't look like it will be Cooper. Wonder who's left on the HSH list?? Quote
SuperBrfc Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lucimo said: Well it doesn't look like it will be Cooper. Wonder who's left on the HSH list?? Pulis is still available, worryingly! Quote
Lucimo Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said: Pulis is still available, worryingly! Good grief , that is a worry!! Quote
davulsukur Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Lucimo said: Well it doesn't look like it will be Cooper. Wonder who's left on the HSH list?? More dross i assume Quote
bluebruce Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 On 17/09/2021 at 14:01, roverblue said: You can spin this anyway you like, all of the sides we played bar Nottingham Forest finished above us last season (and Hull who were in League 1). Away points at Millwall, Boro and a win at Forest are great results. Beating Swansea (last season play off finalists) at home another great result, plus a great result Tuesday night after a really below par first half. The negativity on this forum is incredible at times just enjoy the form whilst it lasts! You can spin it how you want, yes, but it's this season not last season. It's the Championship - it doesn't matter how good they were last season, they could easily finish at the other end this season, and so far they are. Them being down there now, regardless of where they finish, shows they have started the season badly. So at the least, we played then when they were in bad form. Quote
oldjamfan1 Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 4 hours ago, bluebruce said: You can spin it how you want, yes, but it's this season not last season. It's the Championship - it doesn't matter how good they were last season, they could easily finish at the other end this season, and so far they are. Them being down there now, regardless of where they finish, shows they have started the season badly. So at the least, we played then when they were in bad form. We are only 8 games in, league positions don’t really mean that much at the moment. 6 Quote
bluebruce Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, oldjamfan1 said: We are only 8 games in, league positions don’t really mean that much at the moment. Correct. They do show form though. And we have played teams in poor form, almost exclusively. Quote
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