Tony Mowbray Discussion

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

His words are shocking - the majority of fans stayed behind the team far more than they deserved on Wednesday. TM has had far more support from the fans at Ewood than he deserves - and yet he is basically questioning their loyalty because some have dared to question him or his tactics.

Somebody needs to make him sit through 90 minutes of him driving his team on - and see if he can stay awake - several times on Wednesday he actually turned his back on them.

This is the worst spin interview since the days of Kean. It is such a shame - he actually did a reasonable job (up to last season where he failed miserably) - but is just past his sell by date. All his talk of integrity etc is being shown to be a sham. Having said that - I wouldn't walk out of my job without a pay-off - and it would appear that is what TM is aiming for. 

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Just read this about Ayala "As I keep saying, I’m not the doctor, I’m not the physio. We’ll wait and see how quickly he recovers."

I may be old fashioned - but surely a good manager would speak to his Physio/Doctor so he knows this information ? Surely this is part of team preparation and forward planning to know this information ?

[SuperBrfc]

“The guy who is shouting abuse, tell him to shut up and get on with supporting your team, that’s what would I do, that’s how I’ve always followed my team".

That comment right there is what will cause fights and arguments in the stands. Just like the Kean days. The FB/twitter/LT brigade will lap that crap right up. "Get behind the lads". This interview is worse than a Kean one, insulting us with nonsense about Pep and £200m.

[RevidgeBlue]

8 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

That's really strange that Pep and £200 million is needed because I could have sworn that Blackpool and Coventry were in worse positions than TM inherited with is but are now above us in the league. And that's without either Pep or the dosh. 

Spot on.

We've been on Tony's "journey" now for four and a half years and find ourselves behind those Clubs who in comparative terms are barely out of the starting blocks and who have spent the tiniest fraction of what we have.

What's he on about as well needing £100 or £200m to get promoted? He's already burnt his way through c£100m of the owners money over the last few years keeping the likes of Graham, Mulgrew, Bennett,Downing and Evans in clover.

[benhben]

Feck me. That interview is sickening. A diatribe of an arrogant imposter who knows full well he's immune from the sack. 

No apology, no promise to improve...simply an excuse and a message to fans to shut up and what more do you except. 

Awful. No other manager with a real boardroom would get away with this nonsense. 

He has absolutely zero intention of walking away from this easy paycheck.

Edited November 5, 2021 by benhben

[We Are The Rovers]

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[den]

He doesn’t help himself, does he?

referring to fans as “background noise” is simply saying that he doesn’t give a damn what they think - and then telling the background noise that they’re not going to get anyone better than him is, well, just sticking his fingers up to them.

Ive never heard this kind of thing from a rovers manager before. It defies belief. In a pre Venkys world the man would have been dragged over the coals for that, if not moved on. 
 

But he knows he’s safe. A mediocre manager such as him being free to talk that way is just further proof of how things have to change.

[Bigdoggsteel]

38 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

That's really strange that Pep and £200 million is needed because I could have sworn that Blackpool and Coventry were in worse positions than TM inherited with is but are now above us in the league. And that's without either Pep or the dosh. 

This is exactly what should have been put to him at the press conference 

[Bigdoggsteel]

6 minutes ago, Rovers Trust said:

Happy Birthday Rovers(!)

 

 

 

We would have lost without the sending off 

Why was Buckley false 9? 

This shite about not losing by 3 or 4 is total tripe. We won 2 in 17 on a run last season. 

Very annoying stuff out of him today 

[Armchair supporter supremo]

42 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

That's really strange that Pep and £200 million is needed because I could have sworn that Blackpool and Coventry were in worse positions than TM inherited with is but are now above us in the league. And that's without either Pep or the dosh. 

pre'fkin"cisely 

[RevidgeBlue]

Also reference to the "older gentlemen" who "lived through the glory years".

Patronising arsehole. The reason we older fans can see right through him is  not because of the Dalglish years but because of the pre Jack Walker years where we've seen proper managers whose shoes Mowbray isn't fit to lace like Furphy, Lee,  Smith, Kendall and Mackay thrive on a financial shoestring.

They never had tens of millions of pounds of owners backing and the luxury of running a wage bill of 187% to turnover like Mowbray has been able to do.

[Tom]

Every now and then the mask slips, people do forget it pretty quickly next time we win and he’s dunking a biscuit on twitter mind 

[roversfan99]

2 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

You say you want Mowbray out but weirdly preach about how it's never going to happen. You also defend Mowbray and say it's the Venkys fault.

The Venkys don't setup the team, formation to anything like that for that matter.

He's spent over £15m in his time, handed out countlessly pointless contracts to award a promotion, yet you blame the Venkys? He's the one in the press bigging up the Venkys, recommending contract extensions.

I really don't understand your stand point at all.

The statement in bold is typical of the illogical way that people view the current situation.

Who appointed Mowbray, and allow him to remain in his job despite regressing due to their negligence and disinterest? Why aren't they in any way responsible when they have been the common denominator in 11 dismal years?

I have repeatedly stated for a good 18 months that I want Mowbray out, but equally I don't get bogged down in analysing every word he says, nor do I think that he is the primary thing wrong with the club or responsible for everything.

The reason that I say that it won't happen unlike yourself who believes the most cryptic sources and whispers is because I know that the main underlying problem ie Venkys do not judge their managers and act upon that like normal owners.

[broadsword]

6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Also reference to the "older gentlemen" who "lived through the glory years".

Patronising arsehole. The reason we older fans can see right through him is  not because of the Dalglish years but because of the pre Jack Walker years where we've seen proper managers whose shoes Mowbray isn't fit to lace like Furphy, Lee,  Smith, Kendall and Mackay thrive on a financial shoestring.

They never had tens of millions of pounds of owners backing and the luxury of running a wage bill of 187% to turnover like Mowbray has been able to do.

He could definitely stand a clatter. He's up there with kean now for me

[pedrob2014]

His comments today are unbelievable definitely go to show that he knows he is in no danger of being sacked no matter what.

 

Mercer I know you keep saying it is going to happen sooner than people might think that interview today is fuck you I am here for as long as I want to be here.

 

I have tried to not join the he is as bad as Kean message but telling people that if they have a different opinion to him they should be told to shut up by other supporters is a disgrace

[SuperBrfc]

Oh, and isn't it odd how he says "I don't see it, I don't feel it" in relation to comments made online? Just a day or two after it was posted on here that fan comments have got to him. There have been a number of instances where it has felt as though he is responding to some of us on here.

A year or so ago he said he is made aware of comments on social media, so I don't buy what he is saying.

[Bigdoggsteel]

6 minutes ago, Tom said:

Every now and then the mask slips, people do forget it pretty quickly next time we win and he’s dunking a biscuit on twitter mind 

He has self-preservation down to a TEA

[RevidgeBlue]

The only crumb of comfort I'm clinging to is that he may know he's history and this is a parting shot at the fans on the way out of the door.

[Bigdoggsteel]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

The only crumb of comfort I'm clinging to is that he may know he's history and this is a parting shot at the fans on the way out of the door.

Man, he's not going anywhere and he knows it. That's very apparent. 

[Bigdoggsteel]

He would take redundancy if offered though I think. He would then come clean about working here, say he did a great job and claim we have unrealistic expectations. 

Fingers crossed we appint someone who will shut him up 

[pedrob2014]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

The only crumb of comfort I'm clinging to is that he may know he's history and this is a parting shot at the fans on the way out of the door.

it comes across the complete opposite to me it comes across as I am going nowhere so you can say what the hell you want i dont care

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

3 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Man, he's not going anywhere and he knows it. That's very apparent. 

Yes, unfortunately that sounds like a man who knows he’s got things stitched up really nicely.

[JHRover]

I think it is fair to say that his head has gone.

He appeared to lose the plot and throw in the towel at the start of the year, inexplicably was allowed to continue through the summer but now it is different - rather than the defeated shoulder shrug it is antagonism of the support base.

He seems to be following the Kean guide book on how to divide and conquer the support base. I wonder if he's been taking advice from the same people as Kean once did.

Imply that anyone unhappy or critical of dismal performances/results or who questions his position is negative, not supporting the club and therefore by extension not a true fan.

Encouraging supporters to rise up and combat 'abusive' fellow supporters - abusive of course being expressing unhappiness at being humiliated.

Suggesting that unhappiness with Wednesdays debacle is a symptom of a modern social media disease - nonsense - in decades gone by there would have been a mob gathered by the reception waiting for him after the game.

Distraction tactics by referring to other clubs that are of no relevance at all to our situation

The perennial tale of us being 'young guys' not men and still learning how to play football - who has been running things for the last 5 years?

Heaven help this club. The only thing I agree with him on is that once he goes it will be some other substandard manager sat in his place making similar excuses working for the same pondlife.

[CambridgeRover]

Mowbray vs Kean?

Same bullshit spouters

[LeftWinger]

11 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

Mowbray vs Kean?

Same bullshit spouters

You're being silly now 😂