Tony Mowbray Discussion

[Upside Down]

He's not great but compared to the utter carnage of the first five years of this regime he's a saint.

The problem with wanting him gone is that he will need to be replaced. I have absolutely no faith in the owners and people running the club that they would find a better replacement.

 

For the record I am not happy at all with just drudging through another season mid table in the second division. I am yet to be convinced that relegation from the Premier League was anything but deliberate and anything other than a top 10 finish in the Premier League is complete and utter failure under the current ownership as far as I am concerned.

 

The only way to move forward is for the club to be under new ownership.

Edited November 21, 2021 by Upside Down

[Sparks Rover]

23 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

I have absolutely no faith in the owners and people running the club that they would find a better replacement.

anything other than a top 10 finish in the Premier League is complete and utter failure under the current ownership as far as I am concerned.

How can you say these two things?

[tomphil]

5 hours ago, Upside Down said:

That last word there, what does it mean? I forgot.

I think it's something to do with being happy to sit the middle of a division whilst losing 15 million a year, or at least that's the modern version of it.

 

[Upside Down]

57 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

How can you say these two things?

That's where we were when the takeover happened, relegation was deliberate and there has been no attempt to get back there.

Unacceptable. 

 

Tony Mowbray is no where near the level of manager we should have. He is a symptom of the ownership. With competen people running thigs we'd have a manager with ambition.

[1864roverite]

6 hours ago, Upside Down said:

That's where we were when the takeover happened, relegation was deliberate and there has been no attempt to get back there.

Unacceptable. 

 

Tony Mowbray is no where near the level of manager we should have. He is a symptom of the ownership. With competen people running thigs we'd have a manager with ambition.

Relegation deliberate ? Don’t be so ridiculous we were relegated because of the incompetent managers at the time 

 

[Upside Down]

19 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

Relegation deliberate ? Don’t be so ridiculous we were relegated because of the incompetent managers at the time 

 

Said incompetent managers were not removed and replaced with somebody competent when it was obvious what the outcomewould be.

That was very deliberate. 

[1864roverite]

For the life of me I have never come across professional footballers who were paid to simply get relegated !

[Gav]

58 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

Relegation deliberate ? Don’t be so ridiculous we were relegated because of the incompetent managers at the time 

 

When new owners come into the club on a ticket to get Champions league football with a budget of £5m a season, the argument could be made that they deliberately relegated the cub in pursuit of that aim. They replaced the current manager with a coach, replaced the best chairman in the country with nobody, sold off all the clubs assets, or put them in the stands so as not to pay win bonuses and loyalty bonuses.

Those are all very deliberate acts which resulted in relegation and the demise of this football club.

Edited November 21, 2021 by Gav

[1864roverite]

There is not a professional player on earth who would play to get relegated in a team as a whole 

[Gav]

12 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

There is not a professional player on earth who would play to get relegated in a team as a whole 

Not true, but that wasn't my point.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32512704

Edited November 21, 2021 by Gav

[Armchair supporter supremo]

Mowbray out. 

Waggot out. 

 

[Gav]

1 minute ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Mowbray out. 

Waggot out. 

 

Think bigger picture, unless you want more of the same for the next 10yrs+

Venkys out

[tomphil]

There are bad eggs, corruption and greed in all walks of life.

[rigger]

19 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

There is not a professional player on earth who would play to get relegated in a team as a whole 

A bold, but unprovable statement, in a somewhat corrupt environment.

[Armchair supporter supremo]

14 minutes ago, Gav said:

Think bigger picture, unless you want more of the same for the next 10yrs+

Venkys out

Mowbray out

Waggot out

Tallented, respected, ambitious board and manager In. 

[47er]

58 minutes ago, Gav said:

When new owners come into the club on a ticket to get Champions league football with a budget of £5m a season, the argument could be made that they deliberately relegated the cub in pursuit of that aim. They replaced the current manager with a coach, replaced the best chairman in the country with nobody, sold off all the clubs assets, or put them in the stands so as not to pay win bonuses and loyalty bonuses.

Those are all very deliberate acts which resulted in relegation and the demise of this football club.

They even gave the manager (Kean) a contract containing a bonus if we were relegated to the Championship and  another one if we were relegated to Div1!!

Explain that one away all these who think things were above board.

At the time we were a solid and established Premier League club.

That suggests to me they knew what was coming.

[Gav]

17 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Mowbray out

Waggot out

Tallented, respected, ambitious board and manager In. 

Can you name me one person in the current setup that can achieve that goal? Bringing in that calibre of appointment? 

[booth]

2 hours ago, 1864roverite said:

Relegation deliberate ? Don’t be so ridiculous we were relegated because of the incompetent managers at the time 

 

You've obviously not had the pleasure of reading Kean's contract.

[Armchair supporter supremo]

42 minutes ago, Gav said:

Can you name me one person in the current setup that can achieve that goal? Bringing in that calibre of appointment? 

Mowbray Out

Waggot Out

 

Can you name me one person(that would have the clubs best interests at heart) that has the funds available to buy the club and its debt if it was put up for sale? and if this club goes into administration there will be no happy ending! the club would become history.

 

Sadly our best bet of stepping to the next level is by rolling the managerial dice and hoping we eventually find a good en. As for WankyWaggot and the other useless back room cronies they're all part of the same harem as Mowbray so all must go together.

Edited November 21, 2021 by Armchair supporter supremo

[booth]

2 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Mowbray Out

Waggot Out

 

Can you name me one person that has the funds available to buy the club and its debt if it was put up for sale? and if this club goes into administration there will be no happy ending! the club would become history.

 

Sadly our best bet is rolling the managerial dice and hoping we eventually find a good en.

I can't see anyone of any worth taking on Blackburn Rovers and £140m of debt. Just asset strippers,

[Gav]

1 hour ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Mowbray Out

Waggot Out

 

Can you name me one person that has the funds available to buy the club and its debt if it was put up for sale? and if this club goes into administration there will be no happy ending! the club would become history.

 

Sadly our best bet is rolling the managerial dice and hoping we eventually find a good en.

I'll take that as a No then, which is the right answer, we have nobody at the club who could make a decent appointment, the last 10yrs proves that.

How many clubs of the stature of say, a Blackburn Rovers, have folded and 'become history' as you put it?

Edited November 21, 2021 by Gav

[47er]

4 minutes ago, booth said:

I can't see anyone of any worth taking on Blackburn Rovers and £140m of debt. Just asset strippers,

Hasn't the only sizeable asset just been sold?

[chaddyrovers]

7 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Mowbray Out

Waggot Out

 

Can you name me one person(that would have the clubs best interests at heart) that has the funds available to buy the club and its debt if it was put up for sale? and if this club goes into administration there will be no happy ending! the club would become history.

 

Sadly our best bet of stepping to the next level is by rolling the managerial dice and hoping we eventually find a good en. As for WankyWaggot and the other useless back room cronies they're all part of the same harem as Mowbray so all must go together.

Why would Venkys put the club into administration when most of debt is owed to them? Meaning they get nothing back money wise

[Armchair supporter supremo]

9 minutes ago, Gav said:

I'll that that as a No then, which is the right answer, we have nobody at the club who could make a decent appointment, the last 10yrs proves that.

How many clubs of the stature of say, a Blackburn Rovers, have folded and 'become history' as you put it?

Sorry cock but I think you have a pretty romanticised view of our stature 😞 Look how long it took Leeds to claw their way back into the premiere league! and they're a far bigger and better supported City team (even if their fans are pure scum😄)

Edited November 21, 2021 by Armchair supporter supremo

[Armchair supporter supremo]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Why would Venkys put the club into administration when most of debt is owed to them? Meaning they get nothing back money wise

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