Tony Mowbray Discussion

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I heard there was a serious falling out between Hodgson and the senior players over tactics after the 4-0 thrashing at United. Things were said that couldn’t be unsaid. After that things went gradually downhill.

Edited December 8, 2021 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Admiral Nelsen]

13 hours ago, DE. said:

I read Le Saux's book recently, from the chapter on his departure:

Obviously the above is all from Le Saux's perspective, but gives an insight as to why he ended up with a chip on his shoulder in regards to the club.

 

Thanks for this - a lot of detail there that I'd completely forgotten. I think taking everything together you'd probably say i) the club was in a state post-Kenny and the title win where plenty of players wanted out for football reasons, Le Saux included, and ii) he still had a fairly legitimate gripe with the club over a serious injury which could have been handled more professionally. Probably still an overreaction from him in my view, but an injury like that must've been very difficult to deal with. You'd like to think it would be chalk and cheese with how we've handled Dack's injuries. 

 

Interesting that Robert Coar rubbed the players up the wrong way. I was at an event a couple of years ago where David May was the surprise guest, who when asked about his contract situation when leaving Rovers said something along the lines of "Who told you that? Robert Coar? The F*****g W****r" to the whole room. 

[Gav]

I remember Sutton saying recently that the players at Blackburn were lining up to punch Le Saux, but Batty go there first, he had a massive chip on his shoulder apparently.

He was a quality player for us though, I remember (I think I remember) him making his debut the same day as Kevin Gallagher at home against Liverpool? didn't we hammer Liverpool that day 4-1 or 4-0?

Memory not what it used to be 😁 

[broadsword]

Thought this was a great article

 

https://90sfootballparty.wordpress.com/2016/08/02/home-too-soon-hodgson-at-blackburn/

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

29 minutes ago, broadsword said:

Thought this was a great article

 

https://90sfootballparty.wordpress.com/2016/08/02/home-too-soon-hodgson-at-blackburn/

Yes, a very good summing up.

[broadsword]

And I still like Roy. I mean, I can't understand why he would put Harry kane on corners, and getting Darren peacock was baffling. But no one is perfect I guess. And if take him all day long over Mowbray. 

 

https://www.planetfootball.com/in-depth/fun-cocky-real-character-roy-hodgson-nothing-like-think/

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

26 minutes ago, broadsword said:

And I still like Roy. I mean, I can't understand why he would put Harry kane on corners, and getting Darren peacock was baffling. But no one is perfect I guess. And if take him all day long over Mowbray. 

 

https://www.planetfootball.com/in-depth/fun-cocky-real-character-roy-hodgson-nothing-like-think/

A lot of his signings were baffling. 

[roverandout]

Didn't roy run out crying when Jack sacked him?

[booth]

41 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

A lot of his signings were baffling. 

Peacock was often in Utopia, usually staggering out at 3am.

I remember on one occasion he was absolutely smashed, then he was playing the day after! 

Terrible discipline.

[broadsword]

Out of all the managers we've had in the past, if I could swap one for Mowbray, I'd take souness all day long. Or kendall

[broadsword]

35 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Didn't roy run out crying when Jack sacked him?

He was in tears as he drove away, yes

[broadsword]

33 minutes ago, booth said:

Peacock was often in Utopia, usually staggering out at 3am.

I remember on one occasion he was absolutely smashed, then he was playing the day after! 

Terrible discipline.

Explains a lot, mind you I don't think he would've played any better had he been sober. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

6 minutes ago, broadsword said:

Explains a lot, mind you I don't think he would've played any better had he been sober. 

I don’t know who was worse Peacock or Dailly. If you rolled them together you wouldn’t have had a decent centre half.

[Armchair supporter supremo]

11 minutes ago, broadsword said:

Explains a lot, mind you I don't think he would've played any better had he been sober. 

we signed Peacock on a free and he was still a worst signing than poor Kevin Davies! 

 

I thought Billy Mckinly was immense for us under Roy as an anchor man for about 6 months (before getting badly injured i 🤔 ) allwoing Sherwood and Bohinen to play higher up 

 

Peacock and Daily 🤮🤮🤮🤮

Edited December 8, 2021 by Armchair supporter supremo

[broadsword]

29 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I don’t know who was worse Peacock or Dailly. If you rolled them together you wouldn’t have had a decent centre half.

Dailly didn't even have the look of a centre half

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 minutes ago, broadsword said:

Dailly didn't even have the look of a centre half

He didn’t have the look of a footballer to me. The four lads we have now at centre half, Ayala, Lenihan, Wharton, Van Hecke all look better to me.

[DE.]

Roy's forte has generally been smaller, underdog teams throughout his career. He did well at Inter but they were very much in a rebuilding phase at the time with few real stars or big egos. None of Roy's jobs with bigger teams (us at the time, Liverpool, England) ended well. He was a very good manager for a certain type of country/club. 

[47er]

10 hours ago, broadsword said:

Out of all the managers we've had in the past, if I could swap one for Mowbray, I'd take souness all day long. Or kendall

Souness was great for a while until he was absolutely awful. I opened a bottle of champagne when Newcastle came in for him.We were going down without a whimper at that point.

Which leads me to---of all the mangers we've ever had I'd choose Mark Hughes.

Didn't have much to spend but boy did he know what to do with it. Loved his time with us.

[SuperBrfc]

33 minutes ago, 47er said:

 

Didn't have much to spend but boy did he know what to do with it. Loved his time with us.

I remember coming home one afternoon and checking the Ceefax football page. 'Blackburn sign Bellamy for £5m' was the main headline. Wow, the excitement upon seeing that! Hughes could definitely pull out some crackers. I remember when he signed Mokoena and Nelsen and thinking "who are they". Then I saw them play. It was the same with Zurab and Samba. Solid finds.

He apparently wanted to bring Zabaleta, Kompany and Lassana Diarra to Rovers in 2008 but the board wouldn't give him the funds for it. Another "what might have been" moment for us possibly. (Zidane was at our training ground 😢).

Souey's first three seasons were excellent, he also got us Brad and Tugay, but I agree that Hughes was able to use the budget better. I would have Hughes back in an instant if given the choice.

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

[Mattyblue]

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Edited December 9, 2021 by Mattyblue

[Mattyblue]

12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

Da Vinci, Einstein, Mowbray.

[Ulrich]

Genius? WOW people throw words around like confetti these days.

[Spartakfenni]

6 minutes ago, Ulrich said:

Genius? WOW people throw words around like confetti these days.

Must be these new physiological profiles that he’s adopted🤪😜🧐🥸

[Armchair supporter supremo]

he must be a genius to have kept himself in a job the last 3 years.

The turgid wet wipe. 

Edited December 9, 2021 by Armchair supporter supremo