Tony Mowbray Discussion

[roverandout]

34 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Tony Mowbray will travel to India to meet owners Venky’s to discuss his long-term future in the summer as the manager today marks five years in the job.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19941645.blackburn-rovers-tony-mowbray-set-venkys-contract-talks/

Long term future? He should be binned in the summer 

[roverandout]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Massively when he arrived at the club. Look at the mess Coyle did here

Massively? Total overstatement 

[47er]

2 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Massively? Total overstatement 

I'd say "significantly" but as Bigdog kindly reminds us, the season isn't over yet!

We might not win another game!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

14 minutes ago, 47er said:

The manager you wanted to keep when everyone else wanted him gone you mean?

I thought that was Mowbray.

[Bigdoggsteel]

1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Let’s see what quality of players we have next August.

Still better than before Mowbray came I bet! 

[47er]

26 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I thought that was Mowbray.

Me and Chaddy go back longer than that!

[Bigdoggsteel]

I'm all for giving managers time and even though we all wanted a change last season on that horrific run, keeping him as paid dividends. Big summer for the club coming up and unless he decides to leave, I can't imagine we will have a new manager next season. Pros and cons to that of course. 

[Nuttall is lost]

What kind of funds are there for new players in the two scenarios?  Going up and staying in the graveyard?

[rigger]

25 minutes ago, Nuttall is lost said:

What kind of funds are there for new players in the two scenarios?  Going up and staying in the graveyard?

Unlike the dingles we have never been in the graveyard.

[Guest]

 

 

[Miller11]

13 minutes ago, JoeH said:

 

 

I actually really like this. It’s pleasing to see that the focus does seem very much on finishing the season strong and getting promoted.

Might be reading too much into it, but there’s a lot of talk of finishing off, and some distancing… I wouldn’t say he sounds like he’s confident he’ll be here beyond the end of the season.

Edited February 22, 2022 by Miller11

[MarkBRFC]

All a bit cringe i thought.

 

[Mattyblue]

After cringe watching Sunderland till I Die, Brockhall seems an oasis of calm and professionalism in comparison…

[MarkBRFC]

I just think we don't need to see it.

The social media era though i suppose.

[RoversClitheroe]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Tony Mowbray will travel to India to meet owners Venky’s to discuss his long-term future in the summer as the manager today marks five years in the job.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19941645.blackburn-rovers-tony-mowbray-set-venkys-contract-talks/

I beg you Venkys please do not extend his contract.

[glen9mullan]

34 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

I actually really like this. It’s pleasing to see that the focus does seem very much on finishing the season strong and getting promoted.

Might be reading too much into it, but there’s a lot of talk of finishing off, and some distancing… I wouldn’t say he sounds like he’s confident he’ll be here beyond the end of the season.

I got that impression too, that its a long goodbye. 

[Guest]

Depending how we finish the season (if we make top 6) I wouldn't be against a one year rolling deal. However, I do feel like this is the end of the Mowbray era, he's got us some good young players in the building and a squad that with a few additions next season could well challenge again under new management. 

Question is whether V's would get it right and go for someone like Bilic/Hughton/Jokanovic, or whether they do the classic and give it Mark Venus.

[roversfan99]

25 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

I beg you Venkys please do not extend his contract.

I suspect that such is in the inflexibility of your opinion, that even an incredible promotion wouldn't even slightly change your opinion. I don't get why anyone would corner themselves with their opinion and not allow themselves to at least give some credit and change that opinion even slightly. I wanted him out too last summer 100% but as it stands I don't get how anyone can commit to this opinion with us 3rd in the table.

[JHRover]

So plans afoot for the annal trip to Pune to speak to the owners after the season has finished. His first trip since 2019.

Positives to this - I think this is the best and probably only way Venkys are going to sanction any serious funds be that for new players or new contracts. Without that meeting with the top owners we will once again be relying on the loan market and selling players.

Negatives - it basically means Mowbray is here next season as long as he wants to be. There's an argument that he has earned that this season but I'd rather wait and see how things pan out before then. There's no way Venkys are going to take him and Waggott out to India to tell them they aren't needed. I'd rather there was more to the process than 'cart on Tony' but doubt it with Venkys.

 

[roverandout]

40 minutes ago, JHRover said:

So plans afoot for the annal trip to Pune to speak to the owners after the season has finished. His first trip since 2019.

Positives to this - I think this is the best and probably only way Venkys are going to sanction any serious funds be that for new players or new contracts. Without that meeting with the top owners we will once again be relying on the loan market and selling players.

Negatives - it basically means Mowbray is here next season as long as he wants to be. There's an argument that he has earned that this season but I'd rather wait and see how things pan out before then. There's no way Venkys are going to take him and Waggott out to India to tell them they aren't needed. I'd rather there was more to the process than 'cart on Tony' but doubt it with Venkys.

 

Are they planning an orgy

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, JoeH said:

 

 

I thought you were all joking about the lemon drizzle.

Bloody hell. 

[Mattyblue]

2 hours ago, Mellor Rover said:

Depending how we finish the season (if we make top 6) I wouldn't be against a one year rolling deal. However, I do feel like this is the end of the Mowbray era,

You could well be right and for me sums these owners up to a tee. 

We were utter crap last season, but there was not a chance he’d be replaced as he was under contract. 

Now as he comes out of contract, even a damn good season could well see him depart.

Not one iota of forward planning or rational thinking, just ‘well he’s in the building, he’s got a contract, crack on’.

 

Edited February 22, 2022 by Mattyblue

[rog of the rovers]

Congratulations on 5 years Mr Mowbray.

There's certainly been times during the five years (namely this time last season) that I felt he'd taken the club as far as he could, but you can definitely see that pride and passion is back in him this campaign.

History will judge his reign, like it does for every manager, time and distance the true yardstick against which to judge any manager...good or bad.

What I think has been blatantly obvious and what I personally will be forever grateful for is the steadying influence he's managed to bring.

Back on 22/2/17 we were in free fall to League One, with Mowbray himself becoming Rovers' fourth manager in two seasons, following on from Bowyer, Lambert and Coyle...not to mention the debacle of earlier in the decade with Kean, Black, Berg, Bowyer as temporary, Appleton and finally back to ''give it a good go'' Gary himself.

Its perhaps easy to take the period of stability as a sign of stagnation, but I'd argue getting the club back on an even standing, reigning in some expectations, whilst promoting the youth of the club has been exactly what was needed from his appointment and for that he's deservedly earned my respect.

Should he take us up this season, or next, or in the future, that legacy will only be enhanced.

Edited February 22, 2022 by rog of the rovers

[matt83]

Listening to moggadon for 5 bloody years. Jesus wept. 

[Mercer]

8 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Today is the 5th anniversary of TM's appointment as manager. The club is in a much better place now than then.

After 5 years, we have only just broken through to the top six.

5 years is an eternity in football and I think Mowbray's tenure on the whole has been uninspiring.  For me, too many 'death spirals', turgid football, indifferent signings (yes there have been good ones but also number wise, far more dross).  I think Mowbray's body language at times in the second half of last season left much to be desired and came across to me as 'couldn't care less'. 

In my book, would be a huge mistake to keep him on whether we finish below sixth, in the top six or achieve automatic promotion. 

In my opinion. a very average manager who was rescued from football's managerial scrap heap and has been amply rewarded.

Time to move on if we want to REALLY move forward.

Edited February 22, 2022 by Mercer