New captain

[oldjamfan1]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:17, rigger said:

Again I have no problem with any appointment of captain. My problem is the fact that Bennett should not be in the starting 11, going off performances. Not some ill conceived loyalty.

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That’s not what you posted though was it?

What you posted was this...

  On 12/08/2019 at 15:52, rigger said:

I am almost tempted to boo when he is announced as captain on Saturday.

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[rigger]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:11, oldjamfan1 said:

Anyone who has ever watched a Rovers match with me will know that I never sit in silence. But then I would not boo a Rovers name read out over the tannoy. Save that for the opposition.

As I posted earlier, Bennett wouldn’t have been my choice as captain but I can understand why he got the nod.

Incidentally, the ‘club captain’ doesn’t necessarily start every game. Exhibit A being Charlie Mulgrew earlier this year.

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Is he not being picked as a match day captain, not just a club captain? 

[AllRoverAsia]

Bob Crompton, Ronnie Clayton, and Colin Hendry to name just 3 great players but from different eras who captained both Rovers and their Country.

Now we have Elliott Bennett whose main claim to fame is being Mowbray's Pal in the dressing room.

It is beyond sadness how far we have fallen.

[oldjamfan1]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:20, rigger said:

Is he not being picked as a match day captain, not just a club captain? 

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There’s no such thing as a ‘match day captain’

[Bigdoggsteel]

I think this shows Mowbray is a stubborn man. He will stick with players out of position or shoehorned in until it gets him the sack. 

I remember not so long ago he was saying Lenihan could be a future captain. Obviously not whilst he needs to have Bennett right back. 

The worst thing is all those stupid decisions Mowbray now seems to be making will just lead to the fans turning  on the players, because as we have seen, Mowbray doesn't take blame himself for his formations or tactics. He has fucked Brereton up. Rothwell on the same route. Bennett definitely and he will probably do the same to Gallagher by playing him on the wing. 

Not happy at all. 

[rigger]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:21, oldjamfan1 said:

There’s no such thing as a ‘match day captain’

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Isn't that the bloke on the pitch who has been nominated to be the captain for that match

[Bigdoggsteel]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:21, AllRoverAsia said:

Bob Crompton, Ronnie Clayton, and Colin Hendry to name just 3 great players but from different eras who captained both Rovers and their Country.

Now we have Elliott Bennett whose main claim to fame is being Mowbray's Pal in the dressing room.

It is beyond sadness how far we have fallen.

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At least with Lenihan there is a lad who has been at the club since 15, shows proper leadership on the field. No, not for Tony though. Stubborn man. 

You know, it might just have got him to stay if a bid comes in next summer. But no, apparently fist pumping is an important skill in Mowbrays eyes. 

Really, really poor choice. 

Edited August 12, 2019 by Bigdoggsteel

[oldjamfan1]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:23, rigger said:

Isn't that the bloke on the pitch who has been nominated to be the captain for that match

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Yeah in any given game obviously but when you ‘announce’ someone as the new captain, taking over from the club captain (which is what Mulgrew was) he isn’t saying “this guy gets picked automatically”, he is saying “this guy is the captain”. Hanley was Norwich captain last season but barely featured in their team. I actually agree with you in respect of Bennett’s ability as a footballer but I can never agree with your attitude via a vis booing.

Edited August 12, 2019 by oldjamfan1

[Vilesinner]

Lenihan was my choice ahead of Johnson. Think most fans feel pretty much the same. 

[AllRoverAsia]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:28, renrag said:

I don’t think Hendry was ever officially a Rovers captain, although he was occasionally nominated when the regular skipper was absent

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We had so many potential Captains then

[AllRoverAsia]

 

 

 

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  On 12/08/2019 at 16:38, oldjamfan1 said:

Yeah in any given game obviously but when you ‘announce’ someone as the new captain, taking over from the club captain (which is what Mulgrew was) he isn’t saying “this guy gets picked automatically”, he is saying “this guy is the captain”. Hanley was Norwich captain last season but barely featured in their team. I actually agree with you in respect of Bennett’s ability as a footballer but I can never agree with your attitude via a vis booing.

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Totally agree and I would never boo any player in Rovers colours. I would simply not applaud or cheer.

[rigger]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:19, oldjamfan1 said:

That’s not what you posted though was it?

What you posted was this...

 

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Almost tempted

[oldjamfan1]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:42, AllRoverAsia said:

We had so many potential Captains then

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The best teams have eleven captains on the park. Go through the Rovers premier league champions - even the wingers would have been fine captains. Same with the promotion sides of 1992 and 2001

[AllRoverAsia]

Great post lifted from FB: 'Mowbray is like that Sunday league manager who picks his son and makes him captain no matter how shit he is''

[oldjamfan1]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:45, rigger said:

Almost tempted

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Fair enough mate, booing our own players is a pet hate of mine. It’s absolutely okay to dislike players or not rate them, but when they have a blue and white quartered shirt on they are playing for us. Particularly pre-match. 

[oldjamfan1]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:40, Vilesinner said:

Lenihan was my choice ahead of Johnson. Think most fans feel pretty much the same. 

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This

[G Somerset Rover]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:40, Vilesinner said:

Lenihan was my choice ahead of Johnson. Think most fans feel pretty much the same. 

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I wonder if something is amiss with Lenihan and Mowbray. Talked the other day how he'll have a battle to get back in and was a cert to be captain in my eyes (Tony used to wax lyrical about him, now not so much). One of the only saleable assets we have and the captaincy could have prolonged his Rovers career. As I say, terrible decision and Nyambe will no doubt be banging the door down to leave come January - and who could blame him.

Edited August 12, 2019 by Gavlar Somerset Rover!

[rigger]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:44, AllRoverAsia said:

Totally agree and I would never boo any player in Rovers colours. I would simply not applaud or cheer.

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  On 12/08/2019 at 16:48, oldjamfan1 said:

Fair enough mate, booing our own players is a pet hate of mine. It’s absolutely okay to dislike players or not rate them, but when they have a blue and white quartered shirt on they are playing for us. Particularly pre-match. 

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How else do you suggest that it is shown to Mowbray that his decision on this matter is not liked by the majority. My dislike is of Mowbrays decision, not of Bennett.  

[oldjamfan1]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:52, rigger said:

 

How else do you suggest that it is shown to Mowbray that his decision on this matter is not liked by the majority. My dislike is of Mowbrays decision, not of Bennett.  

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How is Bennett meant to decipher that though?

I want a motivated player on that park, not someone who thinks “why bother?” (Not that Bennett has ever given less than 100% but you get my drift).

Its a difficult question and I don’t have a ready answer for you to be honest. Can’t see for the life of me how booing helps though.

[Mattyblue]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:46, oldjamfan1 said:

The best teams have eleven captains on the park. Go through the Rovers premier league champions - even the wingers would have been fine captains. Same with the promotion sides of 1992 and 2001

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Indeed. That’s why we are a million miles from promotion. 

Yes we had quality players in 2001, but the side was full of captains or ‘men’ as TM would put it.

Friedel, Bjornebye, Short, Berg, Hignett, Flitcroft, Hughes. Even the young lads like Dunn and Johnson had some balls about them.

Compare it to where we are now.

[AllRoverAsia]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:52, rigger said:

 

How else do you suggest that it is shown to Mowbray that his decision on this matter is not liked by the majority. My dislike is of Mowbrays decision, not of Bennett.  

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Mowbray does not care about what any majority may want. He really believes its HIS Team, HIS Club.

I know he has put the squad together and picks the team but with Mowbray, it goes beyond that. Delusional is being kind.

I read about his end at Celtic who had the good sense to see through his facade into his madness.

I get what you say about Bennett but, IMO, he's just a puppy lapdog for his master.

Edited August 12, 2019 by AllRoverAsia

[Stuart]

  On 12/08/2019 at 14:12, Mattyblue said:

Captain is a non-job in football. Make him Club president for all its worth, however it should not in anyway keep him in the side if his performances do not merit it.

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Worked out okay for Jason Lowe.

This is just another poor decision to add to the ever-increasing list. Everything we don’t want is what happens. Fan relations are going to really strain if we continue on this poor run.

Bennett is like an on-field version of Mowbray. Enthusiastic, passionate, honest, great in League One but no longer up to the task and just keeps going regardless.

Venkys - Waggott - Mowbray - Bennett

We are leaderless and rudderless so we will have to hope we drift to safety and Venkys keep footing the bill.

[Ewood Ace]

  On 12/08/2019 at 16:21, AllRoverAsia said:

Bob Crompton, Ronnie Clayton, and Colin Hendry to name just 3 great players but from different eras who captained both Rovers and their Country.

Now we have Elliott Bennett whose main claim to fame is being Mowbray's Pal in the dressing room.

It is beyond sadness how far we have fallen.

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You forgot his other claim which is behaving like a court jester on the rare occasion that we win a game

[Blue blood]

Cements Bennett's place. non playing captain's exist but are rare - and let's be honest does anyone really think Bennett will be a non playing captain? 

We might as well rename this thread the goodbye Nayambe thread. Too much competition in midfield for Bennett to play there regularly and there's too many strikers to cram in at right mid.

Sad news as I liked Nayambe as a player and Bennett guarentees a couple of horrendous muck ups per game at RB. 

[rigger]

  On 12/08/2019 at 17:02, renrag said:

Send him a letter with your name and address on

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Do you honestly believe that would work?