January transfer window 2020

[JacknOry]

Surely you want your wingers to be flighty? Seriously, if Duff was coming through now, his career would be doomed. 

[perthblue02]

1 hour ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

Mystery solved - Tony doesn't buy wingers because they are "flighty individuals". 

What the shuddering f8ck does that mean? Is he serious? Genuinely is this a new version of The Office? 

Think he means he does not like their natural instincts to get the ball and attack down the wing hopefully putting a cross in so an expensive forward line (if you are radical enough to play them in their natural position) can get on the end of it, rather than get the ball and spend the next 10 minutes pissing about passing to and from defenders to get the possession stats up.

Edited January 11, 2020 by perthblue02

[Roverthechimp]

2 hours ago, Ossydave said:

He does talk a load of old guff doesn't he ?

The only thing I will say in his defence is none of us really have a true insight into the circus he has to deal with behind the scenes. It certainly can't make transfer dealings easy. Rather than coming out and saying that he's working with imbeciles though he spouts a load of old bollocks in the press.

Was thinking this when reading about ticket "policy" for today's game...

[Amo]

[BlackburnEnd75]

20 minutes ago, Amo said:

I'm disappointed I can only like this once. ???

[tomphil]

3 hours ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

Tony's latest comments have me in almost disbelief. He won't sign a striker unless they have a special type of Mowbray human character. He won't sign wingers because their characters are generally "flighty mavericks". That's before we even get to the price and wages ruling us out.

I don't think this personal vanity project is ever going to work.

Just sign some good players and win football matches.

 

If there's such a thing as an honest version of Kean then he is it he really is just insulting fans now with his claptrap.  Mind you having had many face to face meeting with our funders he'll now know just how gullible they are no doubt.

Winging it this fella is, hopefully all the dice drop in our favour today. It won't be a turning point because everything will change again in the coming weekls but it would be a massive much needed win.

[BlackburnEnd75]

3 hours ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

Tony's latest comments have me in almost disbelief. He won't sign a striker unless they have a special type of Mowbray human character. He won't sign wingers because their characters are generally "flighty mavericks". That's before we even get to the price and wages ruling us out.

I don't think this personal vanity project is ever going to work.

Just sign some good players and win football matches.

 

Where has he said this?

[JacknOry]

2 minutes ago, BlackburnEnd75 said:

Where has he said this?

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18153428.depends-player----rovers-eye-attacker-january/

[JacknOry]

Loves talking about Brentofrd does Mowbray

“Brentford jumps to mind, they’re third in the league with lots of talented foreign imports, bought relatively cheaply, but if you look for what they sell for, buying and selling is their model, buy for £1m and sell for £20m."

Our model is buy for 5-7m and be lucky to get 500k back - lol

[andyroversmad]

I'm sure we could of found better players across Europe with the money we wasted on Gallagher and Brereton.

Mowbray needs to be held accountable for this.

[Rogerb]

19 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

Loves talking about Brentofrd does Mowbray

“Brentford jumps to mind, they’re third in the league with lots of talented foreign imports, bought relatively cheaply, but if you look for what they sell for, buying and selling is their model, buy for £1m and sell for £20m."

Our model is buy for 5-7m and be lucky to get 500k back - lol

Helps them out by selling them David Raya for 3M. To be hoped there's a big sell on percentage in that deal!

[JacknOry]

1 minute ago, Rogerb said:

Helps them out by selling them David Raya for 3M. To be hoped there's a big sell on percentage in that deal!

Exactly, if TM is such a big fan of their recruitment and how they turn players around for huge profits - did that not make him think before selling off Raya? Surely they think they got a good deal and could turn him around too? 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 hours ago, Wegerleswiggle said:

Looks good, and I can't imagine he'll turn up in ripped jeans either.

Yeah I've watched him a few times, Put's himself about a bit, winds opposing players up, likes a tackle, get's up and down the pitch, not going to score many goals. Very similar player to Travis. If we sign him it could be that Travis may be on the move in the near future.

Edited January 11, 2020 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[simongarnerisgod]

3 hours ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

Mystery solved - Tony doesn't buy wingers because they are "flighty individuals". 

What the shuddering f8ck does that mean? Is he serious? Genuinely is this a new version of The Office? 

if a winger is`nt flighty then imo he`s not much use,if someone on the wing can`t run,dribble or put a decent cross in then he should`nt be there,of course it`s different in mowbray land,he puts players on the wing who can`t run,cross or dribble,seriously,the man has reached the end of the journey at ewood

[joey_big_nose]

1 hour ago, JacknOry said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18153428.depends-player----rovers-eye-attacker-january/

That is very David Brent!

Basic premise is okay of what he is saying. Would have no issue with any manager saying it. It's more that he says stuff like this then we don't actually sign "players with character". I mean out of everyone weve brought in who actually looks like a leader? Only Johnson and Smallwood I think?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, joey_big_nose said:

That is very David Brent!

Basic premise is okay of what he is saying. Would have no issue with any manager saying it. It's more that he says stuff like this then we don't actually sign "players with character". I mean out of everyone weve brought in who actually looks like a leader? Only Johnson and Smallwood I think?

Cunningham might have been.

[DE.]

3 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

That is very David Brent!

Basic premise is okay of what he is saying. Would have no issue with any manager saying it. It's more that he says stuff like this then we don't actually sign "players with character". I mean out of everyone weve brought in who actually looks like a leader? Only Johnson and Smallwood I think?

By "character" he basically means "nice lad who won't rock the boat". Good for squad harmony, bad for genuine ambition. 

Edited January 11, 2020 by DE.

[DE.]

1 hour ago, JacknOry said:

Loves talking about Brentofrd does Mowbray

“Brentford jumps to mind, they’re third in the league with lots of talented foreign imports, bought relatively cheaply, but if you look for what they sell for, buying and selling is their model, buy for £1m and sell for £20m."

Our model is buy for 5-7m and be lucky to get 500k back - lol

He should stop talking about them because the way they operate (including pinching Raya off us for relative peanuts) reflects very badly on how our club is run.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

5 minutes ago, DE. said:

By "character" he basically means "nice lad who won't rock the boat". Good for squad harmony, bad for genuine ambition. 

I have seen much sign of character in most of his signings. We seem to specialise in players who's heads go down when we're up against it. 

[DE.]

Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I have seen much sign of character in most of his signings. We seem to specialise in players who's heads go down when we're up against it. 

Exactly what happens when you sign soft, passive players. The team is a reflection of the manager's philosophy and ethos.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, DE. said:

Exactly what happens when you sign soft, passive players. The team is a reflection of the manager's philosophy and ethos.

Correct, I'd like to see a few of the Andy Todd, David Speedie, Paul Dickov types. That's my idea of character. Possibly not the easiest to manage though.

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, JacknOry said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18153428.depends-player----rovers-eye-attacker-january/

More non existent reasons being made up as to why it's allegedly virtually impossible to bring people in.

It's apparently difficult to speak to people to ascertain if potential targets have the right sort of character, and wingers are apparently "flightly mavericks". Whatever the hell that means.

It's also stating the bleeding obvious but it's a player's talent that primarily determines his longevity in the game, not their character. If you haven't got the talent, you're generally not going to prosper - unless you're Jason Lowe or Elliott Bennett who seem to have conned a lucrative career out of the game off the back of convincing managers they're indispensable due to their character whilst in reality being an absolute liability on the pitch.

Mowbray makes the process of signing players sound so complicated it's a wonder he can get out of bed in the morning and put one foot in front of the other if he finds everything else as difficult to come to terms with as buying and selling players.

It's the ramblings of a man who has if you were being kind  would merely say he has completely lost the plot, if you were being a bit more direct you might wonder if he was beginning to develop mental issues due to the pressure. 

Either way it's way past time he was put out of his misery. I wonder who in authority at Ewood reads the rubbish Mowbray comes out with and thinks it's ok? I also wonder if the owners either don't read what he says in print or with English not being their first language read it but dont quite appreciate how ridiculous what he is saying comes across.

[DE.]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It's also stating the bleeding obvious but it's a player's talent that primarily determines his longevity in the game, not their character. If you haven't got the talent, you're generally not going to prosper - unless you're Jason Lowe or Elliott Bennett who seem to have conned a lucrative career out of the game off the back of convincing managers they're indispensable due to their character whilst in reality being an absolute liability on the pitch.

A bit harsh putting Lowe and Bennett in the same bracket imo. Bennett was a decent player for us and other clubs, but has declined significantly over the past couple of years - particularly since Mowbray started playing him at right back repeatedly, where he clearly isn't suited. Lowe meanwhile has always been extremely limited and extremely fortunate to grow up during a dire period for the England youth setup and Blackburn Rovers.

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Either way it's way past time he was put out of his misery. I wonder who in authority at Ewood reads the rubbish Mowbray comes out with and thinks it's ok? I also wonder if the owners either don't read what he says in print or with English not being their first language read it but dont quite appreciate how ridiculous what he is saying comes across.

Answer to part 1: His good friend and 'coincidentally' his boss Steve Waggott.

Answer to part 2: Venky's couldn't care less about us unless we're causing them bad publicity. We're a blip on their radar and I imagine the only words they hear from Mowbray are whatever he says at the annual summer transfer budget meetings. I bet if asked right now they wouldn't even be able to tell you where we are in the league, let alone what Mowbray has been saying in the press.

[simongarnerisgod]

4 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Correct, I'd like to see a few of the Andy Todd, David Speedie, Paul Dickov types. That's my idea of character. Possibly not the easiest to manage though.

mowbray would be admitted to calderstones if he had to manage those types,any semblence of individuality,flair,positivity or devilment and he can`t handle it,it`s a sign of narcisism,he needs to be in total control imo

[jim mk2]

Loves talking about Brentofrd does Mowbray

“Brentford jumps to mind, they’re third in the league with lots of talented foreign imports, bought relatively cheaply, but if you look for what they sell for, buying and selling is their model, buy for £1m and sell for £20m."

 

 That's presumably why they thought Raya was a snip at £3m.  Buy low and sell high is a good business model but you have to spot the talent first. Apart from getting lucky with Dack, where is the evidence Mowbray can add value with the players he has bought?