Vilesinner Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, harryhealless1928 said: Very worried about this one. Ive seen quite a bit of Lewis Holtby on BT t.v. over the past 3 seasons playing for Hamburg who got relegated from the Bundesliga I and then failed to get promotion back as many Bundesliga II games featuring Hamburg were on t.v. on Sundays. Not terrible by any means but massively underwhelming in a fairly poor team with huge crowds and even bigger expectations. Has scored 14 goals in 127 appearances for Hamburg(as player & on loan). I would say he is an upgraded version of Cory Evans with a better goal-threat.Think he could score 3/4 goals a season in the Championship. Bearing in mind the German leagues are more similar to English leagues than probably French,Spanish or Italian but significantly weaker(except goalies) I believe he would be a competent Championship player. If he is being brought in to replace Dack we have big,big problems and considering our lack of defensive options if any defender gets injured this looks total insanity. However, on a low enough wage(I doubt) could be useful. Having watched plenty of highlights of his incredible array of passing ability; much like Tugay's imo. And seeing the esteem he was held with at Spurs and Hamburg. I don't doubt he is just what we need. 1 Quote
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tomphil Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, harryhealless1928 said: When we are desparately short of semi-reasonable defensive options IF any of our first-choice defenders get injured this signing doesnt make sense. Unless of course Dack is on his way. Holtby is no replacement for Dack. There'll be a complete change in the way we play anyway if Dack departs i think. Quote
harryhealless1928 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 To quote Vilesinner"Having watched plenty of highlights of his incredible array of passing ability;much like Tugays imo." O.K. Ive seen quite a few Sunday Hamburg matches and dont agree. Maybe he just played badly?not so well in the games televised. Either way,how come no other teams are out there for his signature? There were at least 2 competittors for Gallagher,as far as I am aware. Wages? Quote
philipl Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 I would imagine the agent and Lewis get a big smile on their faces for signing on but his week to week wages will be within the club pay structure. Amazing the number of posters reading the Motorway sign and not the heading of the tweet by the way. Quote
windymiller7 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, philipl said: I would imagine the agent and Lewis get a big smile on their faces for signing on but his week to week wages will be within the club pay structure. Amazing the number of posters reading the Motorway sign and not the heading of the tweet by the way. Could've been Donny Rovers I suppose 2 Quote
m1st Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 How does he qualify for us to sign him? He's never played for 'Boro!? 1 Quote
tomphil Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Is this the first fruits of the new Euro network of sorts ? Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, philipl said: I would imagine the agent and Lewis get a big smile on their faces for signing on but his week to week wages will be within the club pay structure. Amazing the number of posters reading the Motorway sign and not the heading of the tweet by the way. Was an instagram story wasn’t it? What am I missing? 1 Quote
Burrells Boy Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 He’s heard of Mrs M’s lemon drizzle!! 1 Quote
philipl Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 London Football web site rabbits on and on about Holtby making a surprise return to English football and his performances for Spurs and Fulham and Hamburg and Germany. But guess what/who doesn't get named... No prizes. But pretty well confirms he is signing for us in my book! Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Just followed us on Instagram 1 Quote
rhodie Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Just had a look at him on YouTube, he reminds me of Pederson, him and Dack playing together certainly should sort out the goal drought we`ve been having so far this season. 1 Quote
Wood26 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 3 different Spurs mates I’ve asked about him all reacted very positively. Energetic player, gives his all. I know he played along time ago, and only 1 season, but was a better reaction then I expected. I assume this was the plan all along, and when we didn’t get Reid he had to change it, and use Buckley more then expected. Holtby I assume means we stay with the shape of 3 at back with Travis Johnson and Holtby in the middle. 2 Quote
CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Wood26 said: 3 different Spurs mates I’ve asked about him all reacted very positively. Energetic player, gives his all. I know he played along time ago, and only 1 season, but was a better reaction then I expected. I assume this was the plan all along, and when we didn’t get Reid he had to change it, and use Buckley more then expected. Holtby I assume means we stay with the shape of 3 at back with Travis Johnson and Holtby in the middle. Hang on.. Are you saying Mowbray has a plan? We've only used Buckley once haven't we? And you're suggesting 5-3-2? Quote
Wood26 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said: Hang on.. Are you saying Mowbray has a plan? We've only used Buckley once haven't we? And you're suggesting 5-3-2? Yes, with all the CB fit. We know Tosin has to play games, Williams and Lenihan won’t be dropped. That’s Bennett and Cunningham Wing backs, Holtby BJ Travis, Dack behind Gallagher. That’s my thinking anyway. 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, Wood26 said: Yes, with all the CB fit. We know Tosin has to play games, Williams and Lenihan won’t be dropped. That’s Bennett and Cunningham Wing backs, Holtby BJ Travis, Dack behind Gallagher. That’s my thinking anyway. Is there goals in that team as I am not seeing them. Quote
sjsbrfc Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, roversfan99 said: Is there goals in that team as I am not seeing them. I saw two on Saturday 4 Quote
Wood26 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Is there goals in that team as I am not seeing them. I dunno, start of season I’d of said we would score loads but defence is awful, but it’s been the reverse Quote
Pedro Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Vilesinner said: Having watched plenty of highlights of his incredible array of passing ability; much like Tugay's imo. And seeing the esteem he was held with at Spurs and Hamburg. I don't doubt he is just what we need. My first thoughts were of Berkovic. He looks to have that sneaky, well-weighted pass behind the defence. Perfect for the likes of Rothwell, Chapman and Armstrong to run onto (if we ever put faith in them). 1 Quote
JacknOry Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, Pedro said: My first thoughts were of Berkovic. He looks to have that sneaky, well-weighted pass behind the defence. Perfect for the likes of Rothwell, Chapman and Armstrong to run onto (if we ever put faith in them). Cracking little player was Berkovic. 5 Quote
DeeCee Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 5 hours ago, tomphil said: How long will it take for TMs famous bedding in process with this one i wonder ? Should be ready by Christmas. 1 Quote
Gary C Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 50 minutes ago, sjsbrfc said: I saw two on Saturday And for some poor finishing could have been more 1 Quote
Gary C Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 I think Holtby could prove to be a shrewd acquisition. Get out some deadwood now Smallwood and Evan's to trim the midfield Quote
Ossydave Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 5 hours ago, harryhealless1928 said: Very worried about this one. Ive seen quite a bit of Lewis Holtby on BT t.v. over the past 3 seasons playing for Hamburg who got relegated from the Bundesliga I and then failed to get promotion back as many Bundesliga II games featuring Hamburg were on t.v. on Sundays. Not terrible by any means but massively underwhelming in a fairly poor team with huge crowds and even bigger expectations. Has scored 14 goals in 127 appearances for Hamburg(as player & on loan). I would say he is an upgraded version of Cory Evans with a better goal-threat.Think he could score 3/4 goals a season in the Championship. Bearing in mind the German leagues are more similar to English leagues than probably French,Spanish or Italian but significantly weaker(except goalies) I believe he would be a competent Championship player. If he is being brought in to replace Dack we have big,big problems and considering our lack of defensive options if any defender gets injured this looks total insanity. However, on a low enough wage(I doubt) could be useful. Agree with a lot of your comments. I too follow German football and can't remember being blown away by Holtby much the last few seasons. Not totally against it but it just seems odd timing and he won't be match fit either. When he is it gives the tinker man another option too when he really could do with settling on his first choice 11 by now. 1 Quote
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