chaddyrovers Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) Christian Walton, Darren Randolph, Kiko Casilla, Freddie Woodman and David Raya's 2019/20 stats compared and ranked. Goalkeeping is a very subjective position so take from it what you will. Great for Blackburn fans to compare Raya and Walton! https://t.co/RY0Sq49RFB Edited September 30, 2019 by chaddyrovers Adding content 3 Quote
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roversfan99 Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 Not sure they are that useful when theres no mention of goals conceded. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted September 30, 2019 Author Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, roversfan99 said: Not sure they are that useful when theres no mention of goals conceded. Well you could look that up yourself. 2 Quote
Oldgregg86 Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Christian Walton, Darren Randolph, Kiko Casilla, Freddie Woodman and David Raya's 2019/20 stats compared and ranked. Goalkeeping is a very subjective position so take from it what you will. Great for Blackburn fans to compare Raya and Walton! https://t.co/RY0Sq49RFB Genuine question. how do you save point seven of a shot. im sure people appreciate this kind of stuff but I can’t take any stat , other than the score and what my eyes tell me, seriously. not a dig at you I just genuinely don’t understand that one Edited October 1, 2019 by Oldgregg86 1 Quote
Dreams of 1995 Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, Oldgregg86 said: Genuine question. how do you save point seven of a shot. im sure people appreciate this kind of stuff but I can’t take ay stat other than the score and whatmy eyes tell me seriously. not a dig at you I just genuinely don’t understand that one I think it's the total amounts of saves / matches For example, if he made 16 saves in 5 matches it would equal 3.2 saves per match 1 Quote
Oldgregg86 Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, Dreams of 1995 said: I think it's the total amounts of saves / matches For example, if he made 16 saves in 5 matches it would equal 3.2 saves per match Ahh . Ok thanks Quote
Trinidad Rover Posted November 23, 2019 Posted November 23, 2019 Surely this needs to be addressed in January. Extremely poor keeper. Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted November 23, 2019 Posted November 23, 2019 On 30/09/2019 at 20:41, roversfan99 said: Not sure they are that useful when theres no mention of goals conceded. It's not just about the number of goals conceded, it's the type of goals. 2 Quote
tomphil Posted November 23, 2019 Posted November 23, 2019 Just like top flight football i think we'll have to wait a long long time before we see a good regular keeper at Ewood again. Something that as long as iv'e known has been a staple at Rovers until, well you know who rocked up. This regime from the top downwards just isn't capable of delivering either. You want quality and consistency you have to pay for it. 5 Quote
LDRover Posted November 23, 2019 Posted November 23, 2019 Looks like a bad un, plays like a bad un, he is a bad un. 2 Quote
bluebruce Posted November 23, 2019 Posted November 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, Hasta said: 4 goals costing mistakes in 6 games. Key stat. Quote
Wegerleswiggle Posted November 25, 2019 Posted November 25, 2019 What we need is a quality goalkeeping coach. Now I'm not saying that will make Walton into Ederson but it will help. Hopefully our next manager will bring in his own team of coaches. Quote
Blue blood Posted November 25, 2019 Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, Wegerleswiggle said: What we need is a quality goalkeeping coach. Now I'm not saying that will make Walton into Ederson but it will help. Hopefully our next manager will bring in his own team of coaches. It certainly can't hurt although it feels too little too late. A decent keeper coach with Raya and we might be in a better situation. Tbh whilst that can only help (can he get worse) my preference is for a better keeper that we actually own! I feel even with a better coach Walton won't get better in time for it to matter - and is starting from further back than Raya imo- so let's get a decent experienced keeper in whilst we can. All the time Rovers downgrade and it's killing the club. Quote
Wegerleswiggle Posted November 25, 2019 Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, Blue blood said: It certainly can't hurt although it feels too little too late. A decent keeper coach with Raya and we might be in a better situation. Tbh whilst that can only help (can he get worse) my preference is for a better keeper that we actually own! I feel even with a better coach Walton won't get better in time for it to matter - and is starting from further back than Raya imo- so let's get a decent experienced keeper in whilst we can. All the time Rovers downgrade and it's killing the club. I agree. A keeper, a left back and a centre back are the 3 key players we need to splash out on. 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted November 25, 2019 Moderation Lead Posted November 25, 2019 Shame the stats don’t show goals he’s cost us. Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted November 26, 2019 Posted November 26, 2019 On 30/09/2019 at 20:41, roversfan99 said: Not sure they are that useful when theres no mention of goals conceded. You are wrong there. A goalkeeper can still play well in a team conceding goals. Pickford moved to Everton for 30 million after being relegated with Sunderland. Quote
roversfan99 Posted November 26, 2019 Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said: You are wrong there. A goalkeeper can still play well in a team conceding goals. Pickford moved to Everton for 30 million after being relegated with Sunderland. That quote was from ages ago and whilst of course goalkeepers can play well in struggling teams, Walton isnt playing well. Theres not a 100% correlation between goals conceded and goalkeeper performance but there is a strong one. Hes made major errors leading to 4 goals in 6 games lately. He has not filled me with confidence all season, bar the penalty save I dont recall many really good saves that hes made, his kicking tends to stay in the pitch but it has really poor accuracy, hes made judgement errors notably at Preston coming to catch, hes just not very good and is a downgrade on the unreliable Raya. Quote
Amo Posted November 26, 2019 Posted November 26, 2019 You also have to consider if coaching is a factor. I've seen a few digs at Ben Benson, promoted from within the academy staff. Was he another example of the club dumbing down? Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted November 26, 2019 Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, roversfan99 said: That quote was from ages ago and whilst of course goalkeepers can play well in struggling teams, Walton isnt playing well. Theres not a 100% correlation between goals conceded and goalkeeper performance but there is a strong one. Hes made major errors leading to 4 goals in 6 games lately. He has not filled me with confidence all season, bar the penalty save I dont recall many really good saves that hes made, his kicking tends to stay in the pitch but it has really poor accuracy, hes made judgement errors notably at Preston coming to catch, hes just not very good and is a downgrade on the unreliable Raya. Whether it was ages ago or not, the point stands. No, he isn't playing amazingly, but there is an over reaction around how badly he is playing. I suppose with keepers any mistake really stands out. He has made some good saves too. Quote
Hasta Posted November 26, 2019 Posted November 26, 2019 43 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Whether it was ages ago or not, the point stands. No, he isn't playing amazingly, but there is an over reaction around how badly he is playing. I suppose with keepers any mistake really stands out. He has made some good saves too. Early seasonhe wasnt as bad as was being made out. All keepers make.misrakes but its becoming almost a goal-costing mistake in each game now which is worrying. Huddersfield, Preston, Sheff Wed and Barnsley to be precise. He comes across as a good lad in interviewd and on the pitch. He just doesnt look a championship number 1 since he has been here. Quote
Backroom DE. Posted November 26, 2019 Backroom Posted November 26, 2019 The problem for me is that he's no better than Raya - in fact I think he's worse. We moved Raya out for a relative pittance and loaned in a keeper who is at best no better and at worst a downgrade. It's bad recruitment either way. 1 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted November 26, 2019 Posted November 26, 2019 Mowbray has made a mess of defensive recruitment time and time again. It's just another example. If Mowbray is still around I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with another loan. Liverpool are letting Caoimhín Kelleher leave on loan. Hes only a young lad, but very highly rated. They were saying on the radio last night he is going to Preston. I hope we sign a keeper in January. Quote
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