Richard Oakley Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Mowbray is not the man to oversee it! The irony is that Mowbray may be the only man standing between us having some sort of team next season and a fire sale of players. 1 Quote
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Gone to seed Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 What is the point of the chicken chokers hanging around for another season of underwhelming disappointment, gradually starving the club of the resources it needs in order to achieve any prospect of advancement? It doesn't make sense. Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, RevidgeBlue said: Apart from the one off hit, substantial cost savings would be made going forward though. The overall effect would be that taking this season and next together costs would be greater - the owners want to go in the opposite direction. Quote
Paul Mani Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, LDRover said: As an earlier poster alluded to, what is the point of billionaire owners if this is their strategy? Furthermore, we have posters such as @Paul Mani nailing their colours to the mast saying there is a budget yet Kamy (who definitely has a line into the club) suggesting the polar opposite. In regard to what the truth is, well, I know where my money would be. All hail the stagnation years fellas, regression is on it's way. The manager knows his budget, hence why enquiries and offers are being made for players. As confirmed yesterday by Rich Sharpe. I have never stated we had this or that much to spend. As I said three weeks ago now, we’re after two young loan keepers and the names were Iversen and Muric for no.1 and Ohara as no.2. What Kamys saying makes complete sense and I can see why Venkys (and every owner) would be looking at finances considering the COVid sized hole in the accounts. Someone on here mentioned a sizeable (£5m) transfer fee budget earlier this window and a meeting with a midfielder who would cost seven figures? Maybe ask them about the current situation? None of this makes me feel any less anxious about the team we’ll be able to put out but bearing in mind Rich Sharpes most recent Comms I’d expect some movement on the keeper and a cb over the next few days...just a guess. Edited August 19, 2020 by Paul Mani 1 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, Paul Mani said: The manager knows his budget, hence why enquiries and offers are being made for players. As confirmed yesterday by Rich Sharpe. I have never stated we had this or that much to spend. As I said three weeks ago now, we’re after two young loan keepers and the names were Iversen and Muric for no.1 and Ohara as no.2. What Kamys saying makes complete sense and I can see why Venkys (and every owner) would be looking at finances considering the COVid sized hole in the accounts. Someone on here mentioned a sizeable (£5m) transfer fee budget earlier this window. None of this makes me feel any less anxious about the team we’ll be able to put out but bearing in mind Rich Sharpes most recent Comms I’d expect some movement on the keeper and a cb over the next few days...just a guess. Do you think a young keeper on loan as our number 1 is satisfactory? After selling Raya for £3 million 2 Quote
Richard Oakley Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said: the owners want to go in the opposite direction. Yes, we've wanted the owners to go in a different direction for years! Fixed contracts probably wouldn't stand up to administration and definitely not in a liquidation. Venkys could try what saved them from administration in 2012 and ask for advanced TV money. Could have already tried and been rebuffed. I think someone posted that the TV money was mortgaged anyway. Edited August 19, 2020 by Richard Oakley 1 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said: The irony is that Mowbray may be the only man standing between us having some sort of team next season and a fire sale of players. He is holding the team together in many ways, although you could argue he also holds it back in other ways. I have a feeling he won't last the season and barring Johnson works out then(or even wants it) we could be in for a tough season. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said: The irony is that Mowbray may be the only man standing between us having some sort of team next season and a fire sale of players. You think? He might put his foot down for the wrong players like Bennett and Evans! A sale of one of the crown jewels would allow him a bit of leeway to waste yet more money on dross. Edited August 19, 2020 by RevidgeBlue Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18660741.analysed-players---mowbray-doncaster-cup-tie/ It begins. Mowbray on Doncaster I like Doncaster, I've watched them a fair bit, including over this summer, analysing one or two of their players,” Mowbray told the club website. “They have good players and it won't be an easy game, that's for sure. “There are no easy games in football, even if you'd hope that we can beat Doncaster Rovers at home. We know all too well from the last meeting with them at Ewood Park that it's not that straightforward. 2 Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Richard Oakley said: Yes, we've wanted the owners to go in a different direction for years! Fixed contracts probably wouldn't stand up to administration and definitely not in a liquidation. Venkys could try what saved them from administration in 2012 and ask for advanced TV money. Could have already tried and been rebuffed. I think someone posted that the TV money was mortgaged anyway. You are right about liquidation - in which case there is no club left which seems a high price to pay for moving on people who some don't like - but I think in administration existing contracts do continue unless they can be renegotiated because the idea is to keep the club alive. Quote
Richard Oakley Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 @Paul Mani Club has denied any offers have been made. Mowbray has already seen what happened to the money from the Platt transfer. I think he is determined to keep the squad together. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18660741.analysed-players---mowbray-doncaster-cup-tie/ It begins. Mowbray on Doncaster I like Doncaster, I've watched them a fair bit, including over this summer, analysing one or two of their players,” Mowbray told the club website. “They have good players and it won't be an easy game, that's for sure. “There are no easy games in football, even if you'd hope that we can beat Doncaster Rovers at home. We know all too well from the last meeting with them at Ewood Park that it's not that straightforward. I'd sack him just for that. Pathetic. 6 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, Exiled_Rover said: I'd sack him just for that. Pathetic. Grim , isn't it? 2 Quote
rigger Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said: We still need another centre half Lenihan Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, rigger said: Lenihan We still need another center half 1 Quote
rigger Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: We still need another center half Just for cover due to injury or suspension Williams. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, Exiled_Rover said: I'd sack him just for that. Pathetic. Unbelievable isn't it. If he's bigging up Doncaster like they're Bayern Munich already I dread to think what he'll say when we come up against Championship opposition. 1 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, rigger said: Just for cover due to injury or suspension Williams. So you would be happy with Wharton, Lenihan and Williams? I wouldn't. 4 Quote
JacknOry Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 The V's were probably told that the plan was to sell Dack for upwards of 15 million last season/end of this and that would cover the expenditure on our free scoring striker/wingers. An unfortunate injury has left them well out of pocket now which combined with no income thanks to COVID and a poor return on these huge sums spent has left them tightening the purse strings completely. Brace yourselves for AA being sold off. 2 Quote
BlackburnEnd75 Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18660741.analysed-players---mowbray-doncaster-cup-tie/ It begins. Mowbray on Doncaster I like Doncaster, I've watched them a fair bit, including over this summer, analysing one or two of their players,” Mowbray told the club website. “They have good players and it won't be an easy game, that's for sure. “There are no easy games in football, even if you'd hope that we can beat Doncaster Rovers at home. We know all too well from the last meeting with them at Ewood Park that it's not that straightforward. That home game in League one was the worst rovers performance I've ever seen. Mowbray completely overreacted to the loss at Southend by playing the most insanely defensive team for a home game against a team newly promoted from League 2. The team he picked was that bad I think I can remember it all. Raya Caddis Nyambe Ward Mulgrew Williams Smallwood Evans Whittingham Bennett Graham 1 Quote
rigger Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: So you would be happy with Wharton, Lenihan and Williams? I wouldn't. Plus Carter and Magloire. I wouldn’t say I am happy, but it is doable. Quote
Richard Oakley Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: So you would be happy with Wharton, Lenihan and Williams? I wouldn't. Happy? No. If it's all we've go, hope for the best. We've got Carter. Okay his first goalscoring effort was into his own net, something he shares with both Bruce and Pallister. If he's half the player either of them was, we'll still have a very good CB, Johnson's own goal was more from the Duffy playbook. 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: The manager knows his budget, hence why enquiries and offers are being made for players. As confirmed yesterday by Rich Sharpe. I have never stated we had this or that much to spend. As I said three weeks ago now, we’re after two young loan keepers and the names were Iversen and Muric for no.1 and Ohara as no.2. What Kamys saying makes complete sense and I can see why Venkys (and every owner) would be looking at finances considering the COVid sized hole in the accounts. Someone on here mentioned a sizeable (£5m) transfer fee budget earlier this window and a meeting with a midfielder who would cost seven figures? Maybe ask them about the current situation? None of this makes me feel any less anxious about the team we’ll be able to put out but bearing in mind Rich Sharpes most recent Comms I’d expect some movement on the keeper and a cb over the next few days...just a guess. There's a difference between speaking to a player (as Sparks Rover has claimed) and being willing or able to meet their demands. All the evidence suggests we cant afford £800k for a keeper we wanted. Quote
blue_n_white99 Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, rigger said: Plus Carter and Magloire. I wouldn’t say I am happy, but it is doable. In front of an unknown keeper, with Bell at LB? Don't know about doable, we'll ship tons every week 2 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 19, 2020 Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, BlackburnEnd75 said: That home game in League one was the worst rovers performance I've ever seen. Mowbray completely overreacted to the loss at Southend by playing the most insanely defensive team for a home game against a team newly promoted from League 2. The team he picked was that bad I think I can remember it all. Raya Caddis Nyambe Ward Mulgrew Williams Smallwood Evans Whittingham Bennett Graham God, i'm finding it difficult to find an adjective to describe that team. So many running through my had. I will go with depressing. 3 Quote
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