JHRover Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18672271.mowbray-downing-dack-rovers-transfer-priorities/ “Top end of the pitch we think we can score goals this year and we have to get it right at the other end.” I think Mowbray pretty much sums it up there. The trouble is that I don't believe our defensive issues are solely down to personnel. I think a large part of it is poor tactics and coaching. I don't think Mowbray is capable of stopping us conceding. His teams have always struggled at the back. Reading Mowbray's comments on Downing I think it is clear that he hasn't been made a serious offer and I expect someone else will snap him up. It seems Mowbray's plan is to further slash the wage bill by releasing him, try to address the gaping holes at the back and then if there's some cash left over see if he's still available. Whilst I agree that defence and goalkeeper require urgent priority on funds and efforts i do worry that releasing Downing, Graham, Samuel and Smallwood without bringing anyone in is a gamble. Quote
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Sparks Rover Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Were you expecting to sign for them?! Good player Hugill but a bit rich for our tastes. I'd imagine his wages are way out of our league. Shame though, he's quality on his day. We could have bought him for 7-8m a couple of seasons back and be up now.....apart from our shit defence but i think you get my drift. Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, JHRover said: The trouble is that I don't believe our defensive issues are solely down to personnel. I think a large part of it is poor tactics and coaching. I'd agree. Our FB's are often exposed and we're shit defending set-pieces. 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, bigbrandjohn said: And Rodwell has just signed a Premier league contract with Sheffield United. ? and he play a couple of games a season. Good work if you can get it 2 Quote
Fraserkirky Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 I agree that we don’t need a striker, we need certain players to step up. Defensive midfielder for me please and plenty of defenders 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: I'd agree. Our FB's are often exposed and we're shit defending set-pieces. tbf we looked better on set pieces last year when mulgrew and rodwell wer`nt there,i agree on our full backs though especially down the left our left side,it`s very weak Quote
Backroom Tom Posted August 24, 2020 Backroom Posted August 24, 2020 I see Jamal Blackman has gone on loan to Rotherham for a year He showed great potential a season or two back but falls into that awkward category of still being loaned out and expecting game time but probably not quite good enough to cement down the number one spot. Quote
Sparks Rover Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Fraserkirky said: Defensive midfielder for me please and plenty of defenders Agree, Goalie, sorted. Wharton in, Left back, hope Cunningham comes in and then hopefully money left for a decent CM. Edited August 24, 2020 by Sparks Rover Quote
tomphil Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said: Why? Reports suggested everything had been sorted out, before he left Belgium. Medical, reports, signing it all off who knows but maybe things are a bit slower at the min. Quote
JacknOry Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 Dont like to list them in order as it seems unfair to put any above another but the greats in my time were Shearer, Duff Tugay and Friedal. 1 Quote
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, rovers11 said: Interesting, it does sound as though there’s no offer on the table for Downing at the moment. With the pace at which we get signings done, I’d imagine Downing would have to wait until deadline day to see if we can offer him a new deal or not. In other words, he won’t be coming back here. I personally think that’s a big blow. I thought he was excellent last season and one of our best players. Strange how we see things. I thought he got steadily worse post Christmas. Rather his wage went elsewhere. 7 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 33 minutes ago, neophox said: Sherwood Not in my top 100. 1 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 35 minutes ago, JHRover said: The trouble is that I don't believe our defensive issues are solely down to personnel. I think a large part of it is poor tactics and coaching. I don't think Mowbray is capable of stopping us conceding. His teams have always struggled at the back. Reading Mowbray's comments on Downing I think it is clear that he hasn't been made a serious offer and I expect someone else will snap him up. It seems Mowbray's plan is to further slash the wage bill by releasing him, try to address the gaping holes at the back and then if there's some cash left over see if he's still available. Whilst I agree that defence and goalkeeper require urgent priority on funds and efforts i do worry that releasing Downing, Graham, Samuel and Smallwood without bringing anyone in is a gamble. Really? Whatever about Downing and possibly Graham, are you actually serious about the other 2, like really? Think about it... 1 Quote
bigbrandjohn Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 36 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: and he play a couple of games a season. Good work if you can get it On Premier League pay as you go. Luvly. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Really? Whatever about Downing and possibly Graham, are you actually serious about the other 2, like really? Think about it... I'm not bothered about Graham and Downing going either. In that respect being especially skint might actually have done us a favour as in more normal circumstances Tone would no doubt have been busting a gut to give them new deals Edited August 24, 2020 by RevidgeBlue 2 Quote
davulsukur Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 Pretty happy with Mowbrays comments. Seems like our recruitment is geared towards the defence where it's desperately needed. If we get the defenders we need and there is enough room to bring Downing in, i'd be happy enough for him to come back. 1 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Pretty happy with Mowbrays comments. Seems like our recruitment is geared towards the defence where it's desperately needed. If we get the defenders we need and there is enough room to bring Downing in, i'd be happy enough for him to come back. Disappointments are coming! 6 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: I'm not bothered about Graham and Downing going either. In that respect being especially skint might actually have done us a favour as in more normal circumstances Tone would no doubt have been busting a gut to give them new deals I don't know about Graham. He wasn't used much last year and looked a bit past it when he did. I'm sure if there was more money he would offer Downing a deal alright. I wouldn't be against having him around ,as a bench option. Good pro to have around for the younger players. Not many in the squad who have won stuff. Quote
joey_big_nose Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I don't know about Graham. He wasn't used much last year and looked a bit past it when he did. I'm sure if there was more money he would offer Downing a deal alright. I wouldn't be against having him around ,as a bench option. Good pro to have around for the younger players. Not many in the squad who have won stuff. I would say Downing was in our top 5 performers last season so would definitely retain him. Obviously Tony is a huge fan. It's very odd that deal hasn't happened. Maybe his agent wants two years but we will only offer one? But that would be crazily ambitious from him. Or maybe an embargo on signing players without resale value? Anyone know? 2 Quote
unsall Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, JHRover said: The trouble is that I don't believe our defensive issues are solely down to personnel. I think a large part of it is poor tactics and coaching. I don't think Mowbray is capable of stopping us conceding. His teams have always struggled at the back. Reading Mowbray's comments on Downing I think it is clear that he hasn't been made a serious offer and I expect someone else will snap him up. It seems Mowbray's plan is to further slash the wage bill by releasing him, try to address the gaping holes at the back and then if there's some cash left over see if he's still available. Whilst I agree that defence and goalkeeper require urgent priority on funds and efforts i do worry that releasing Downing, Graham, Samuel and Smallwood without bringing anyone in is a gamble. Hmm you’ve banged on about sorting goalie and defence out, but now saying it’s not down to personnel but bad coaching, let’s see who he brings in and go from there. Never thought you saying Smallwood/ Samuel going is a gamble, we need to offload the dead wood to bring in more players, bit of wheeling and dealing, thought Mowbray explained the plan pretty good Having a limited budget. Are you still adamant we won’t pay a transfer fee for a keeper and c/b? 2 Quote
davulsukur Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said: Disappointments are coming! Ha, don't worry, I've braced myself for the inevitable "we tried but failed" Quote
bboy Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 54 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Pretty happy with Mowbrays comments. Seems like our recruitment is geared towards the defence where it's desperately needed. If we get the defenders we need and there is enough room to bring Downing in, i'd be happy enough for him to come back. Sound bites can be amazing https://mobile.twitter.com/bbclancssport/status/1124022855061184515?lang=en Jokes aside right comments but fool me once... 1 Quote
Sparks Rover Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, davulsukur said: Pretty happy with Mowbrays comments. I'm more interested in Mowbrays actions. Defenders are coming 5 Quote
blue_n_white99 Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 2 hours ago, neophox said: Sherwood Nowhere near Batty and obviously light years behind Tugay 1 Quote
Lucimo Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Not in my top 100. Bringing Batty back in nearly cost us the prem. Not for me. 1 Quote
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