Summer Transfer Window

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4 hours ago, Crimpshrine said:

Let's hear it for Venky's.  Hip hip Hooray

You rather have the ex Wigan owner, ex Bolton, Bury or Blackpool. Nobody’s saying hip hip hooray Venkys, but what’s happened has gone, and just grateful they keep us going.

[roversfan99]

Grateful for them not putting us out of business after a decade of negligent ownership.

[Crimpshrine]

3 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

6 promotions but nowhere near where they were. Plus none of those promotions would be guaranteed. Be careful what you wish for. 

I wish for it every day

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

40 minutes ago, alex l said:

When youve played at 3 professional clubs in the top 2 English leagues, and been paid tens of thousands per week to do it, then you can Gallagher isn't a real footballer. 

Another example of our wonderful fanbase. 

How many goals did our £5m forward get this season?

[chaddyrovers]

35 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Chaddy come on, we get this wrong every summer, and that's from the horse's mouth. Mowbray and/or the recruiting team don't have a clue what players are valued at. Blaming other clubs is daft, it's not about them raising prices on us, most of the time at least. It'll be poor estimates grounded in TM's outdated notions of player values.

No Bruce blaming other clubs isn't daft if we don't feel valuation is right. We didn't over pay for Dack or Armstrong did we? We won't pay Newcastle asking price at the start of the summer and we waited and get him a reasonable price. Now look him and the how much he has improved over the past 2 years. 

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5 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

How many goals did our £5m forward get this season?

Not as many as he might score, if he is used properly 

[alex l]

47 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

The guys you mentioned have hundreds of International caps between them. Gallagher is just a journeyman at best. It's a pointless comparison.

You could have said the same about Best, he'd played for several top clubs and he'd been paid probably more than Gallagher to do it. He was still garbage. 

I dont debate their quality or their legacy. Youre the one whose comment implied Gallagher isnt a real footballer. 

[Ewood Ace]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

No Bruce blaming other clubs isn't daft if we don't feel valuation is right. We didn't over pay for Dack or Armstrong did we? We won't pay Newcastle asking price at the start of the summer and we waited and get him a reasonable price. Now look him and the how much he has improved over the past 2 years. 

Yet we paid £7 Million for Brereton and £5 Million for Gallagher. That says to me that we are not averse to significantly overpaying for players. 

Edited August 5, 2020 by Ewood Ace

[alex l]

13 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

How many goals did our £5m forward get this season?

Che Adams got 4 league goals and reportedly cost £15m. Cutrone apparently cost £16m and was loaned out half way through the season after 2 goals. How did Moise Kean do this season? Yes it was a lot of money to us,  but the way some speak, you would think we're the only club to  not get instant success from our forwards. 

[roversfan99]

Just now, alex l said:

Che Adams got 4 league goals and reportedly cost £15m. Cutrone apparently cost £16m and was loaned out half way through the season after 2 goals. How did Moise Kean do this season? Yes it was a lot of money to us,  but the way some speak, you would think we're the only club to  not get instant success from our forwards. 

The fact that other teams have also wasted money doesnt mean that ours isnt any less worthy of criticism.

[Fraserkirky]

If the budget is decent would be going straight back to city asking for another year of Tosin.

Get Brad Smith for left back, Phillips for GK  and Sam Morsy for an enforcer and we will be a lot better.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, alex l said:

Che Adams got 4 league goals and reportedly cost £15m. Cutrone apparently cost £16m and was loaned out half way through the season after 2 goals. How did Moise Kean do this season? Yes it was a lot of money to us,  but the way some speak, you would think we're the only club to  not get instant success from our forwards. 

Whataboutery

[bluebruce]

12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

No Bruce blaming other clubs isn't daft if we don't feel valuation is right. We didn't over pay for Dack or Armstrong did we? We won't pay Newcastle asking price at the start of the summer and we waited and get him a reasonable price. Now look him and the how much he has improved over the past 2 years. 

No you're confusing 'we shouldn't overpay for players', which I generally agree with (sometimes you have to make an exception though) with 'we are crap at figuring out roughly what clubs value players at and judging the market', which is the poor state of reality we inhabit and which makes us flounder with our transfer business every year.

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1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

The guys you mentioned have hundreds of International caps between them. Gallagher is just a journeyman at best. It's a pointless comparison.

You could have said the same about Best, he'd played for several top clubs and he'd been paid probably more than Gallagher to do it. He was still garbage. 

I thought George Best was a decent player.

[alex l]

6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The fact that other teams have also wasted money doesnt mean that ours isnt any less worthy of criticism.

I'll spell it out. £5m isnt that much these days for a forward, it far from guarantees 10 goals, let alone 15. If the Prem examples dont suit, try these for perspective:

Glatzel at Cardiff - 7 league goals £5.4m, Wells at Bristol 3 goals £4m, Zohore at West Brom 3 league goals, £8m.

Gallagher spent half the season out of position, but is in line with these. The expectations of some on here are far too high. 

[tomphil]

2 hours ago, alex l said:

For all the criticism of players being out of position, Guardiola has made it a huge part of his management. Lahm to cm, mascherano to CB, alaba CB, fernandino to cb. And these are players who were much more established in their 'natural' positions compared to Gallagher

This is the championship with bread and butter players not class internationals. No need for it half the time especially when it's clear some are uncomfortable with it. 

Buy players to fit your system and/or play to the strengths of what you have. We have a mix and match selection policy and a sign them then try and fit them in transfer policy. 

[Richard Oakley]

Crooke said talk from the budget town is

Nicko's tweet was that 'he had heard encouraging things'

Neither is confirmation that we have a budget. No-one has confirmed that Venkys have signed off on a budget this year.

[tomphil]

Just now, Richard Oakley said:

Crooke said talk from the budget town is

Nicko's tweet was that 'he had heard encouraging things'

Neither is confirmation that we have a budget. No-one has confirmed that Venkys have signed off on a budget this year.

One is reading the others tweets and both have been here reading Sparks ?

[rovers11]

You'd think Brentford failing to get promoted makes it more likely Raya will make a move to the premier league this summer. 

Duffy and King almost certainly likely to move too so we could make a fair few quid from sell on fees this summer. Not sure if we would have a sell on fee inserted for Duffy though. 

Edited August 5, 2020 by rovers11

[chaddyrovers]

Has anyone watch much of Jozo Simunovic who left Celtic this summer? So available on free. Experience and only 26 years old. His name was mention on Rovers chat YouTube video about potential centre back signing? 

[OssyLad]

Phillips, Cunningham back if available if not then Brad Smith, another Cb or two and couple of wingers and I’ll be happy. Roll on the new season ??

[Ewood Ace]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Has anyone watch much of Jozo Simunovic who left Celtic this summer? So available on free. Experience and only 26 years old. His name was mention on Rovers chat YouTube video about potential centre back signing? 

Decent defender but very injury prone.

[roversfan99]

13 minutes ago, alex l said:

I'll spell it out. £5m isnt that much these days for a forward, it far from guarantees 10 goals, let alone 15. If the Prem examples dont suit, try these for perspective:

Glatzel at Cardiff - 7 league goals £5.4m, Wells at Bristol 3 goals £4m, Zohore at West Brom 3 league goals, £8m.

Gallagher spent half the season out of position, but is in line with these. The expectations of some on here are far too high. 

Such a flimsy defence of a signing, that other teams have wasted money. Obviously they will have done. No one is saying that it is impossible to not make poor signings but equally it doesnt justify doing so.

You say Gallagher played out of position but that only further warrants criticism on Mowbrays point for signing him.

He has been a poor signing. Brereton has been a really poor signing. Equally, Dack and Armstrong have been very good signings, you dont see people saying "yeah but other teams have found bargains too" do you?

[RevidgeBlue]

21 minutes ago, alex l said:

I'll spell it out. £5m isnt that much these days for a forward, it far from guarantees 10 goals, let alone 15. If the Prem examples dont suit, try these for perspective:

Glatzel at Cardiff - 7 league goals £5.4m, Wells at Bristol 3 goals £4m, Zohore at West Brom 3 league goals, £8m.

Gallagher spent half the season out of position, but is in line with these. The expectations of some on here are far too high. 

Do stop talking rubbish. If you're going to start quoting random examples which suit your argument, how about Ollie Watkins £1.8m 25 goals?

Personally I think Gallagher is absolutely useless but whether I'm right or wrong he only scored 4 goals this season which is completely unacceptable by any yardstick and whether or not he was in his preferred position centrally or utilised more from a wider position.

Edited August 5, 2020 by RevidgeBlue

[bluebruce]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Do stop talking rubbish. 

Personally I think Gallagher is absolutely useless but whether I'm right or wrong he only scored 4 goals this season which is completely unacceptable by any yardstick

7. Of which 6 were in the league, 1 in the cup.