rigger Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, arbitro said: I don't see the point of that when you are obligated to buy the player anyway. The reason it happened with Brereton was that there wasn't enough time to do a permanent deal on deadline day. Might be something to do with when the money is paid and is accountable? Does seem weird otherwise. Quote
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Ricky Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 46 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Stoke might want rid. They have a massive squad there. O'Neill has said squad is too big last season. Plus he just made 3 free signings so will need to sell players I do wonder if O’Neill will want to bring Evans in though Chaddy. If he does then it could be a sensible deal for both parties. I would imagine Evans is one of our higher earners and if there is interest in Whiteman he will be facing more competition for a starting place. Only issue is that Stoke seem to have quite a lot of midfielders on their books already. Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, rigger said: To me that is inconsistency, not shite. That is something else a good manager may be able to affect. I think he's shite. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Stoke just signed Mikel so doubt they will want Evans now Quote
JHRover Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Sounds like someone has given Sharpe the nod here. He doesn't come out with stuff like this unless he gets the OK from the club. I very much doubt a fee will be paid for him. So it will be a case of trying to get him on loan or swapping him with someone here. As Mercer says Stoke were rumoured to be after Evans in January. This isn't something I could support. I dont want further gaps in the squad appearing. I want gaps filling without further problems to sort out. Quote
davulsukur Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 40 minutes ago, arbitro said: I don't see the point of that when you are obligated to buy the player anyway. The reason it happened with Brereton was that there wasn't enough time to do a permanent deal on deadline day. I was just thinking along the lines that it gets a wage off Stokes bill, also means we can buy now, pay later when hopefully we have some more cash coming into the club. Although I think transfer fees are normally paid over the duration of the contract? Quote
OssyLad Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Stoke fans think he’s shite, should loan him with option to buy and see how he gets on 2 Quote
tomphil Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 44 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said: He’s also refused to move from Derby which says everything you need to know. It’ll be another season of him being decent every 1 in 5 games. Mowbray makes such a fuss of getting to know the background of players he wants to sign so how come this didn't flag up ? Surely you'd be telling him he has to stay up here when he's training its as simple as that. 1 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, JHRover said: Sounds like someone has given Sharpe the nod here. He doesn't come out with stuff like this unless he gets the OK from the club. I very much doubt a fee will be paid for him. So it will be a case of trying to get him on loan or swapping him with someone here. As Mercer says Stoke were rumoured to be after Evans in January. This isn't something I could support. I dont want further gaps in the squad appearing. I want gaps filling without further problems to sort out. I personally think Davenport is a ready made replacement and I personally think Davenport looks class. 5 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, JHRover said: Sounds like someone has given Sharpe the nod here. He doesn't come out with stuff like this unless he gets the OK from the club. I very much doubt a fee will be paid for him. So it will be a case of trying to get him on loan or swapping him with someone here. As Mercer says Stoke were rumoured to be after Evans in January. This isn't something I could support. I dont want further gaps in the squad appearing. I want gaps filling without further problems to sort out. Travis and Evans is a very good Championship CM pairing IMO. There aren't many other areas of the pitch we can be as confident in. 4 Quote
JHRover Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, OssyLad said: Stoke fans think he’s shite, should loan him with option to buy and see how he gets on but then if he is shite and we get rid we are right back to square one in the next transfer window. Mowbray claims to want to build something. Why not just find a decent CB and sign him on a permanent? Is he unable to do this? Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, JHRover said: Sounds like someone has given Sharpe the nod here. He doesn't come out with stuff like this unless he gets the OK from the club. I very much doubt a fee will be paid for him. So it will be a case of trying to get him on loan or swapping him with someone here. As Mercer says Stoke were rumoured to be after Evans in January. This isn't something I could support. I dont want further gaps in the squad appearing. I want gaps filling without further problems to sort out. Just signed Mikel. Do they need Evans? Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Liam Lindsay is class. I'd be buzzing if we signed him. Rich Sharpe wouldn't be doing an article like that if it wasn't close surely? 1 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, chaddyrovers said: Just signed Mikel. Do they need Evans? they are trying to offload midfielders so possibly, yes. Who knows but the Stoke manager? Quote
rigger Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, JHRover said: but then if he is shite and we get rid we are right back to square one in the next transfer window. Mowbray claims to want to build something. Why not just find a decent CB and sign him on a permanent? Is he unable to do this? History says yes. Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, RoversClitheroe said: Liam Lindsay is class. I'd be buzzing if we signed him. Rich Sharpe wouldn't be doing an article like that if it wasn't close surely? Yep, he only normally names players when there's an interest or it's close. Quote
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Possibly, but Johnson had a reputation at Derby as being the best player on the pitch once every 5 games and a waste of space in the other 4. Yes he did...yet we still signed him?♂️ Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Travis and Evans is a very good Championship CM pairing IMO. There aren't many other areas of the pitch we can be as confident in. When they're both on song we look pretty strong there but in an ideal world I'd like a bit more creativity and a few more goals coming from that area of the team. 1 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: When they're both on song we look pretty strong there but in an ideal world I'd like a bit more creativity and a few more goals coming from that area of the team. True, but It's not how Mowbray plays. He likes his 2 CM's to 'recycle possession' as he puts it and not move very far. I'm sure there's' more to both Travis and Evans games and I'm sure they could score more if they got forward. Edited August 15, 2020 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama Quote
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: I personally think Davenport is a ready made replacement and I personally think Davenport looks class. Must admit if Davenport can stay fit through pre-season, he could definitely progress this year. 1 Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, tomphil said: Mowbray makes such a fuss of getting to know the background of players he wants to sign so how come this didn't flag up ? Surely you'd be telling him he has to stay up here when he's training its as simple as that. For my sins I follow him on Instagram and last season he was constantly posting stories of 5am Starbucks runs. You’re hardly going to be performing at your best are you! Imagine his best pal Benno gives him his couch now and again. 1 Quote
unsall Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Remember last summers transfer window, folk going on how we should take a leaf out of Stokes buying policy, bought 6 in 1 week all supposedly decent players, inc Lindsay, didn’t turn out as expected, manager soon sacked and flitting around bottom of league most of season. We can’t compete financially with Stoke but doesn’t always mean they end up with a better side. Think I would sign this Lindsay guy, had some very good reviews at Barnsley . Love to sign Marshall, (don’t think will happen due to age) and Pears as back up. Striker we are linked with in Germany, and love to see Cunningham back. Keep all our players and think we would have a decent side. 2 Quote
Admiral Nelsen Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: True, but It's now how Mowbray plays. He likes his 2 CM's to 'recycle possession' as he puts it and not move very far. I'm sure there's' more to both Travis and Evans games and I'm sure they could score more if they got forward. To be honest I think this is where we get the most out of Evans. His worst spells in a Rovers shirt have been when we've played 4-4-2 and he was expected to get forward a little more. Never really had the legs to do both and games just passed him by. Travis is a different kettle of fish. Has the legs to contribute further up the pitch and still do his defensive work. Quote
arbitro Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, davulsukur said: I was just thinking along the lines that it gets a wage off Stokes bill, also means we can buy now, pay later when hopefully we have some more cash coming into the club. Although I think transfer fees are normally paid over the duration of the contract? I see your point now. I understand that transfer fees are structured over the duration of a contract with annual payments which means that the Gallagher (and maybe Brereton) installments are due. To give some balance we should get a payment for Raya. That is all on the assumption payments are due on the anniversary of signing. Quote
Guest Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Liam Lindsay would be a nice addition, if the price is right. Left-footed which is a big plus in that LCB position, especially with how weak Bell is at LB. Bit more experience than Wharton at this level and provides some competition. Wouldn't pay over the odds though considering he can’t get a game for Stoke. Quote
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