RevidgeBlue Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 40 minutes ago, Exiled in Toronto said: And one that applies to every other club that didn’t get promotion and made signings that didn’t work out. Preston made a raft of signings and finished lower than the previous year - better ones would’ve got them in the playoffs. It was ever thus. Mercer beat me to it with his original response but surely there's a difference between relatively low cost signings who don't quite get you over the line and signings in the £5-£7m price range who completely tank. For what it's worth, I still have reasonably high hopes for Brereton (albeit probably under a different manager) but Gallagher is a write off imo. And what makes it all the more galling is that we already knew there was no way in the world he was a £5m player from his previous time here! 1 Quote
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Russ Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, JHRover said: So the search is to be stepped up. My god. 12 months after selling our keeper, a month on from waving off our loan and benchwarmer, pre season on Saturday and 3 weeks away from the big kick off and we are stepping up the search. Coincidence that this has only happened now that Mowbray is back from his holiday and at Brockhall? I think not. So amateurish its almost unbelievable. Can anything happen without Mowbray running it? To be fair, there are no new quotes in that article saying anything about 'stepping up their search' just a journo's headline. Nowt new to get upset about (apart from not having a keeper obviously, but this article is rehashed old news) Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: "Jack, I know we paid Ben for 6 months to use our facilities, and I know we've been paying Richie and Sam to do nothing for twelve months already, but how about giving them another month?" ? " If you'll pay their wages out of your salary of course you can give them another month ". 3 Quote
Richard Oakley Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: For what it's worth, I still have reasonably high hopes for Brereton (albeit probably under a different manager) but Gallagher is a write off imo. And what makes it all the more galling is that we already knew there was no way in the world he was a £5m player from his previous time here! I have the opposite opinion on this. Brereton never did anything for Forest. Gallagher scored enough goals playing centrally under Coyle. I'd hazard a guess that all 6 of his goals were scored inside the penalty area,which is where he must play. I do agree that the way Mowbray used him here on loan and still does, he wasn't worth £5m and still isn't.. Edited August 20, 2020 by Richard Oakley 2 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said: Again the relevant word is "defeated". Frank and his players are bottle merchants. So having narrowly missed out on the play offs they're "bottle merchants" whereas we're doing just fine stagnating in mid table snack bang middle of the road to nowhere? End of term report for the Board's chief wind up merchant: "MP is prolific in his output but is running out of ideas and originality. Must try harder!" Edited August 20, 2020 by RevidgeBlue 3 Quote
phili Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said: Again the relevant word is "defeated". Frank and his players are bottle merchants. The difference is they will be battling Norwich for automatic promotion, have a new stadium, cash in the bank, brilliant scouting and development setup and are already filling the gaps they have in the squad. We are heading into the season hoping to get 10th and most probably going on a winless streak halfway through the season, giving us all worries about relegation. 4 Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Ewood Ace said: What exactly are Mowbray and his players then? Just not very good? Good enough to be in the same division as Frank and his players. Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said: So having narrowly missed out on the play offs they're "bottle merchants" whereas we're doing just fine stagnating in mid table snack bang middle of the road to nowhere? End of term report for the Board's chief wind up merchant: "MP is prolific in his output but is running out of ideas and originality. Must try harder!" I'd love to know what people would have said about Mowbray if we had blown the opportunity to get promotion in the regular season the way Brentford did followed by a goalkeeper on which millions had been spent presenting the opposition with a gift to lose the play off final. Quote
Hasta Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mashed Potatoes said: I'd love to know what people would have said about Mowbray if we had blown the opportunity to get promotion in the regular season the way Brentford did followed by a goalkeeper on which millions had been spent presenting the opposition with a gift to lose the play off final. Probably "wow, we actually spent some money on buying a defensive player and it made us more solid and pushed us closer to promotion" Edited August 20, 2020 by Hasta 4 Quote
LDRover Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Mashed Potatoes said: I'd love to know what people would have said about Mowbray if we had blown the opportunity to get promotion in the regular season the way Brentford did followed by a goalkeeper on which millions had been spent presenting the opposition with a gift to lose the play off final. Well you'll never need to worry about that will you. 2 Quote
Amo Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said: So having narrowly missed out on the play offs they're "bottle merchants" whereas we're doing just fine stagnating in mid table snack bang middle of the road to nowhere? End of term report for the Board's chief wind up merchant: "MP is prolific in his output but is running out of ideas and originality. Must try harder!" Notice how he didn't actually answer your question. He's a wind-up merchant or a club shill. Or both. Choose your poison. 2 Quote
Ewood Ace Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said: Good enough to be in the same division as Frank and his players. Wow what an achievement we are in the same division as Brentford. Although a shame we did finish 18 points behind them. All Hail King Mowbray. Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, LDRover said: Well you'll never need to worry about that will you. No - because Mowbray won't blow it. Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted August 20, 2020 Moderation Lead Posted August 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said: I'd love to know what people would have said about Mowbray if we had blown the opportunity to get promotion in the regular season the way Brentford did followed by a goalkeeper on which millions had been spent presenting the opposition with a gift to lose the play off final. We didn’t have to, because our keeper made plenty of gaffes post lockdown that meant we weren’t in contention. 3 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted August 20, 2020 Moderation Lead Posted August 20, 2020 Just now, Mashed Potatoes said: No - because Mowbray won't blow it. Already has, on Brereton and Gallagher. Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, K-Hod said: Already has, on Brereton and Gallagher. More than made up by Armstrong and Dack. Quote
LDRover Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said: No - because Mowbray won't blow it. You're a funny guy. How much did the flag cost by the way? 3 Quote
phili Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 Just now, Mashed Potatoes said: More than made up by Armstrong and Dack. Not until they are sold will we ever know. Most of the goals and assists from Dack were made in conjunction with his partnership with Graham. Until Dack starts playing again and forms a partnership with Armstrong we can't say. Quote
Ewood Ace Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 Just now, Mashed Potatoes said: More than made up by Armstrong and Dack. Of his signings for fees the only ones we will see a profit from are those two. Is that really acceptable out of around 15 cash buys that he has made? Not for me but I know that your standards are very low. Quote
CambridgeRover Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 Just now, Mashed Potatoes said: More than made up by Armstrong and Dack. If Dack and Armstrong make up for Brereton and Gallagher then who makes up for: Samuel, Bell, Whittingham , Paul Downing, Gladwin , Hart, Walton, Chapman, Davenport , bizarre contract extensions and selling Raya on the cheap? 7 Quote
Mattyblue Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 He’s having a jolly old time, stop feeding! The good thing about avatars on the site is if I see that a thread is ‘Hot’ and a golden M as seemingly always the last post, I know to steer clear. 1 Quote
Richard Oakley Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said: No - because Mowbray won't blow it. Mowbray has lost in the Championship Final as manager of West Brom. So he has blown it, by your reckoning. Won the division the season after, a feat I tip Brentford to repeat. His Middlesborough sides never made it into the playoffs. I see nothing to indicate that we will finish high enough to worry about Mowbray blowing it. 1 Quote
CambridgeRover Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 Just now, Mattyblue said: He’s having a jolly old time, stop feeding! The good thing about avatars on the site is if I see that a thread is ‘Hot’ and a golden M as seemingly always the last post, I know to steer clear. I love it too to be honest. Maybe the board can sign up a few more trolls this transfer window to keep us all active 2 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said: I'd love to know what people would have said about Mowbray if we had blown the opportunity to get promotion in the regular season the way Brentford did followed by a goalkeeper on which millions had been spent presenting the opposition with a gift to lose the play off final. "How the frig did Mowbray get us in the play-offs?" Quote
Blue blood Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said: I'd love to know what people would have said about Mowbray if we had blown the opportunity to get promotion in the regular season the way Brentford did followed by a goalkeeper on which millions had been spent presenting the opposition with a gift to lose the play off final. Let me get this straight. You are criticising Brentford who finished multiple places ahead of us and with a lot more points? You are criticising a team for getting in the playoffs which we didn't do at all, and for narrowly missing out on automatic promotion which we were nowhere near? You are criticising them for bottling it where we fluffed it to get into the playoffs on numerous occasions? You are criticising them for buying a keeper who made a couple of mistakes when TM brought in a keeper who dropped clanger after clanger? Talk about double standards. 3 Quote
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