roversfan99 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Mashed Potatoes said: Correct - but there will be people coming on here to blame Mowbray for that. Will they? 1 Quote
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RevidgeBlue Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said: Correct - but there will be people coming on here to blame Mowbray for that. Or.....some people will look to deflect attention away from Mowbray's shortcomings and blame everything on the owners. 8 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said: Mowbray's waiting to hear his budget. Why is everyone getting all hot under the collar about not having news about the budget? When they do have it, Mowbray and Waggott either waste it on dross or bring no-one in then complain about the state of the market. 1 Quote
SBlue Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 55 minutes ago, Waggy76 said: I know , what you are saying but Coventry are in the same Division as us and if they stump up £3 - £4 mill they will sell.... He won't be a top earner at Rovers either .... Will they ballax Teams would be climbing all over themselves to get in on that bidding war. If he goes anywhere it will be via prem or parachute money Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Why is everyone getting all hot under the collar about not having news about the budget? When they do have it, Mowbray and Waggott either waste it on dross or bring no-one in then complain about the state of the market. If he doesn't know his budget how can he make the early moves in the market that people want ? Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Or.....some people will look to deflect attention away from Mowbray's shortcomings and blame everything on the owners. The owners have no shortcomings at all then ? Quote
Amo Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said: The owners have no shortcomings at all then ? I don't think any fair-minded fan has said that, but of course you already knew that. Try harder. Quote
Mercer Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Yes Nyambe massively needs to improve the attacking side of his game. Yes they have but pull out of the deal in January due to injury concerns. so I would what has change supposedly this week he finds out I'll put you out of your misery: minus £15 to £20million me thinks. Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Amo said: I don't think any fair-minded fan has said that, but of course you already knew that. Try harder. The owners paint the landscape - the manager - whoever it is - just has to add the finishing touches. Quote
tomphil Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 If he is the Mr BRFC some like to make him out to be he should have been on the blower to Pune daily for the past week. But he won't will he he'll be a good boy and wait in line to be told what to do whilst protecting his million pound contract. As for Waggot well he's probably sitting waiting for Tony to tell him what to do, in front of a load of pre arranged contract extensions for the pals if the money comes good. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, Mercer said: I'll put you out of your misery: minus £15 to £20million me thinks. Mercer, another prediction from you. have you apply for the TV Show Tipping point yet? 5 minutes ago, tomphil said: If he is the Mr BRFC some like to make him out to be he should have been on the blower to Pune daily for the past week. Any manager wait for his bosses to tell him, otherwise you would be fired. Quote
Amo Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, chaddyrovers said: Any manager wait for his bosses to tell him, otherwise you would be fired. Why do you strike me as a Company Man, chaddy? 1 Quote
Mercer Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, chaddyrovers said: Mercer, another prediction from you. have you apply for the TV Show Tipping point yet? Any manager wait for his bosses to tell him, otherwise you would be fired. Nonsense. You should engage with colleagues upwards, downwards and horizontally. All good managers across all walks of life do it. 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mercer said: Nonsense. You should engage with colleagues upwards, downwards and horizontally. All good managers across all walks of life do it. That's your opinion. You need to understand the way your bosses work and adapt to their way. You think Mourinho walk in to Levy demanding his budget, Cos I bet you he doesn't mess with Levy. Edited July 21, 2020 by chaddyrovers Quote
tomphil Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Mercer, another prediction from you. have you apply for the TV Show Tipping point yet? Any manager wait for his bosses to tell him, otherwise you would be fired. The board of directors of MD or CEO are there to do what is in the best interests of the club and team not themselves. Seeing as we don't really have that it falls to the manager & his sidekick so they should press the issue as the matter of urgency it is. And let the owners know in no uncertain terms that it's holding their club and team back badly if they don't get on with it. Edited July 21, 2020 by tomphil 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, tomphil said: The board of directors of MD or CEO are there to do what is in the best interests of the club and team not themselves. Seeing as we don't really have that it falls to the manager & his sidekick so they should press the issue as the matter of urgency it is. And let the owners know in no uncertain terms that it's holding their club and team back badly if they don't get on with it. No manager is going to do that to any owner. To think otherwise is quite honestly crazy talk 1 Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, tomphil said: The board of directors of MD or CEO are there to do what is in the best interests of the club and team not themselves. Seeing as we don't really have that it falls to the manager & his sidekick so they should press the issue as the matter of urgency it is. And let the owners know in no uncertain terms that it's holding their club and team back badly if they don't get on with it. I think to date anyone who has let the owners "know in no uncertain terms" anything at all has lost their job shortly afterwards so why should anyone now ? Quote
chaddyrovers Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, Mashed Potatoes said: I think to date anyone who has let the owners "know in no uncertain terms" anything at all has lost their job shortly afterwards so why should anyone now ? Like Paul Hunt did. We all remember his letter he sent to Mrs D. 1 Quote
tomphil Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, chaddyrovers said: No manager is going to do that to any owner. To think otherwise is quite honestly crazy talk Don't be so bloody clueless man the world isn't full of sunshine and rainbows there'll be all sorts of rows go on between managers/chairmen and owners. It's stupid and ridiculously naive to think otherwise it's all about having the balls to step up to the plate. Those in little self preservation societies never will. Quote
tomphil Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said: I think to date anyone who has let the owners "know in no uncertain terms" anything at all has lost their job shortly afterwards so why should anyone now ? Rubbish. You don't have to be doing it in a threatening manner. 1 Quote
RoverDom Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Mercer, another prediction from you. have you apply for the TV Show Tipping point yet? Any manager wait for his bosses to tell him, otherwise you would be fired. You've never had to manage upwards because of an incompetent boss? You dont have to be confrontational but theres ways he could put pressure on and nag them to give an answer. 2 Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, tomphil said: Rubbish. You don't have to be doing it in a threatening manner. Give Paul Hunt a ring. 1 Quote
tomphil Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said: Like Paul Hunt did. We all remember his letter he sent to Mrs D. Paul Hunt also aked for a pay rise at the same time let's have the full story if you're going down that road. The guy was 100% after his pay off he knew questioning Keane and Anderson was the death knell for him but he stepped up and took the bullet. 1 Quote
tomphil Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, Mashed Potatoes said: Give Paul Hunt a ring. Really is that the best you can do. Quote
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