philipl Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: As another poster said the Raya deal could well turn out to be the worst bit of business we've ever done. Regarding sell ons in general, didn't Philipl allege at one point Shelfy sold off all our sell on clauses to get some cash in. Had Shelfy gone by the time King was sold, or was that simply not the case? Not sure about King but Raya post dates cashing the sell on clauses. Agreed 10% is disgracefully low on Raya. Let's see if we have a keeper in Keminsky but Raya was a dreadful misjudgement by Mowbray. Quote
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Sparks Rover Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, philipl said: Let's see if we have a keeper in Keminsky but Raya was a dreadful misjudgement by Mowbray. Rubbish. Nobody would have guessed Rays would be off to Arsenal would they? He was shit for us, mistake after mistake.....and i say he still is, Arsenal should stay well clear if they want top 4. Basically you are having a go at Mowbray because Raya is Spanish. 1 Quote
Damien Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) I always thought Raya would one day end up in the premiership. I actually thought he’d end up at Liverpool Edited September 12, 2020 by Damien 1 Quote
philipl Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: Rubbish. Nobody would have guessed Rays would be off to Arsenal would they? He was shit for us, mistake after mistake.....and i say he still is, Arsenal should stay well clear if they want top 4. Basically you are having a go at Mowbray because Raya is Spanish. Let's agree to disagree. Last sentence is nuts though. 1 Quote
Sparks Rover Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Damien said: I always thought Raya would one day end up in the premiership. Did you say that when he was chucking them in season before last? 2 Quote
Ruaney Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 Agree about Raya. Was happy to see him go. Feel like people are only harping on about him because Walton was poor. Stupid that he’s going to Arsenal as he’s definitely not good enough. Just thankful they’re stupid enough to pay for him so we get some money! 4 Quote
Tugay-is-God Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: Did you say that when he was chucking them in season before last? Surprisingly enough not everyone has knee jerk reactions to talented young players going through bad spells of form. 2 Quote
RovingRover Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 I get that Gallagher and Dack are still due to come back to complement our numbers. But we literally don't have a striker on the bench today. Neither could complete pre-season. Surely it makes sense to loan a striker? 1 Quote
pick32 Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 10% of profit for Raya ?? could make this incompetence up. Tony will be blushing unless Kaminski is worth 10million plus this season Quote
Popular Post Tyrone Shoelaces Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: Did you say that when he was chucking them in season before last? He dropped a bollock or two but he also pulled off some saves the like of which we haven't seen since Freidel was here. It was obvious to most people who hadn't got a downer on him that once he got a bit more experience he would turn out to be a Prem standard keeper. Edited September 12, 2020 by Tyrone Shoelaces 10 Quote
Rover8T4 Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, RovingRover said: I get that Gallagher and Dack are still due to come back to complement our numbers. But we literally don't have a striker on the bench today. Neither could complete pre-season. Surely it makes sense to loan a striker? Dolan used last pre season game, I wondered if he would be thrown on in later stages to catch out defenders incase Arma tires Quote
1864roverite Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, RovingRover said: I get that Gallagher and Dack are still due to come back to complement our numbers. But we literally don't have a striker on the bench today. Neither could complete pre-season. Surely it makes sense to loan a striker? No we definitely do not have a striker on the bench Quote
bluebruce Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: Did you say that when he was chucking them in season before last? I certainly was. Not that he was 'chucking them in' anyway. I and plenty of others have rated Raya and thought it was a terrible deal, you didn't, now he is probably on his way to the Prem for over 3 times as much but somehow you were right anyway? 2 Quote
Sparks Rover Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: He dropped a bollock or two but he also pulled off some saves the like of which we haven't seen since Freidel was here. It was obvious to most people who hadn't got a downer on him that once he got a bit more experience he would turn out to be a Prem standard keeper. I look forward to seeing your quotes to that effect from 2018. ? Quote
islander200 Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 2 hours ago, JHRover said: Depends on who to, how much for and how much was reinvested. If selling Armstrong to a Premier League club for a good fee saw us spread the proceeds properly around 4-5 positions and we invested in permanent signings then I'd accept that as part of life and potentially worthwhile. That doesn't happen here though. We sell assets and sign loans as replacements. So no. Look what happened with Raya. We have only sold one asset in Mowbray's time here.And we have spent quite a bit in that time. I'm not referring to when Kentaro were involved. Gary Bowyer brought in quite a few players.And then we had a transfer embargo to deal with altho I presume you don't believed that happened as clubs don't get punished for not sticking to ffp limits in your mind Last summer we spent 5 million on Gallagher and sums on Holtby, Johnson, Downing and Tosin.So the Raya money wasnt used? Quote
1864roverite Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Hanley left out of Norwich squad! Raya not in the right frame of mind to play ? King out if Bournemouth squad? It’s all happening as well as Rivers losing on the opening day of the season Edited September 12, 2020 by 1864roverite Quote
islander200 Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, 1864roverite said: Hanley left out of Norwich squad! Raya not in the right frame of mind to play ? King out if Bournemouth squad? It’s all happening as well as Rivers losing on the opening day of the season Hanley is injured Quote
J*B Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 Twitter says Raya set to move to Arsenal, 8.5m upfront, deal up to 13m. Yikes. Quote
islander200 Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, J*B said: Twitter says Raya set to move to Arsenal, 8.5m upfront, deal up to 13m. Yikes. You would think they have something agreed as Martinez on way to villa for a medical Quote
Paul Mani Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 Cunningham not in the Cardiff squad either... 1 Quote
JacknOry Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Sparks Rover said: Did you say that when he was chucking them in season before last? You mean after he broke how many bones in his face? Was then made the scapepgoat for our defensive performances rather than the same backiline we have had since the wheel was invented? Defenders were coming....than hounded out publicly by TM. I said all along he would be a PL keeper, was not expecting it so quickly after selling him for 1/3 of what they are gonna get for him though! 2 Quote
JacknOry Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 13.5 million - staggering. He was only worth 3 million according to TM just 1 year ago! Quote
1864roverite Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, JacknOry said: 13.5 million - staggering. He was only worth 3 million according to TM just 1 year ago! Premier money it’s as simple as that ! Champ to champ transfers don’t invite huge transfer fees whereas in the PL champ clubs hold the cards Quote
JacknOry Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 Sherlock lol Think you are missing the point 1 Quote
Sparks Rover Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 58 minutes ago, JacknOry said: You mean after he broke how many bones in his face? Was then made the scapepgoat for our defensive performances rather than the same backiline we have had since the wheel was invented? Defenders were coming....than hounded out publicly by TM. I said all along he would be a PL keeper, was not expecting it so quickly after selling him for 1/3 of what they are gonna get for him though! Fair enough mate. ?⚽️ 1 Quote
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