Summer Transfer Window

BG1492 · September 13, 2020

8 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

Lenihan needs to be moved on with Williams. I think Lenihan could be the worst one out of the two

If Lenihan was bought under the Coyle era then he would get just as much stick as Williams. I think he’s a better player than Derek but his mistakes seem to go a lot more unnoticed imo.

magicalmortensleftpeg · September 13, 2020

8 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

What the hell are you chatting? No one is saying Raya is some mega bucks world class keeper. But the facts are, he was worth far more than the 3 million we sold him for and he is far better than any keeper the club has had since

He didn’t want to be here. Hindsight is great but I don’t think anyone would have expected Arsenal to come in for him after one season away. He was better than Walton and we probably should have got a slightly higher fee but not by much. £10m is a ridiculous price to pay for him.

September 13, 2020

1 hour ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/blackburn-rovers-transfers-european-scouting-18925895

'One name that was touted as a left-back candidate was former Hannover 96 defender Miiko Albornoz, but it's to our understanding that the 29-year-old salary demands are excessive, which has put off clubs in the 2. Bundesliga and Eredivisie'

Looked into this lad about 70/80 pages back on the thread. Data and video analysis looks awesome, seems to be exactly what we’re after.

But as has been mentioned by a few posters, off the field issues make this a grey area deal. Wages could potentially be a snag but can see us having interest here.

Ability wise he’s definitely an improvement on Amari’i Bell, five fold.

Swanson · September 13, 2020

1864roverite · September 13, 2020

29 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

What the hell are you chatting? No one is saying Raya is some mega bucks world class keeper. But the facts are, he was worth far more than the 3 million we sold him for and he is far better than any keeper the club has had since

How do you work out he is worth more than £3m? Where is the evidence to back up your claim? In 50 yrs of watching Rovers I’ve seen the likes of Bradshaw, Jones, Gennoe, Flowers, Bunn, Filan and many more including Brad Friedel. Raya doesn’t come anywhere near them in terms of class. He was not worth over £3m last year. So if and when he does move on then the few Rovers will have received will be in excess of £5m which is very good value for a player who cost faff all. Is he any better than Walton? Stats might say they are in a par with each other it’s what’s in front of them that’s the issue

Edited September 13, 2020 by 1864roverite

Hoochie Bloochie Mama · September 13, 2020

19 minutes ago, Swanson said:

Lets hope this particular link bears fruit. Every club needs a strong core of players. We've been stalking him for a while. Hopefully we don't get pipped by another club.

My only concern is that Pear drops the ball a lot.

Edited September 13, 2020 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama

Waggy76 · September 13, 2020

3 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

How do you work out he is worth more than £3m? Where is the evidence to back up your claim? In 50 yrs of watching Rovers I’ve seen the likes of Bradshaw, Jones, Gennoe, Flowers, Bunn, Filan and many more including Brad Friedel. Raya doesn’t come anywhere near them in terms of class. He was not worth over £3m last year. So if and when he does move on then the few Rovers will have received will be in excess of £5m which is very good value for a player who cost faff all. Is he any better than Walton? Stats might say they are in a par with each other it’s what’s in front of them that’s the issue

With the exception of Bradshaw , the other keepers were quite experienced , when they arrived here ...

Time will tell with Raya , doubt he will be as good Friedel, Flowers or Jones but the rest , let us wait and see ...

47er · September 13, 2020

1 hour ago, 1864roverite said:

The decision to sell RAYA was made once he wanted to leave it’s as simple as that !

Once again. also after Mowbray publicly and regularly shamed him as being responsible for the problems of the whole defence.

He didn't public castigate anyone else as I recall.

47er · September 13, 2020

22 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

How do you work out he is worth more than £3m? Where is the evidence to back up your claim? In 50 yrs of watching Rovers I’ve seen the likes of Bradshaw, Jones, Gennoe, Flowers, Bunn, Filan and many more including Brad Friedel. Raya doesn’t come anywhere near them in terms of class. He was not worth over £3m last year. So if and when he does move on then the few Rovers will have received will be in excess of £5m which is very good value for a player who cost faff all. Is he any better than Walton? Stats might say they are in a par with each other it’s what’s in front of them that’s the issue

So we ignore the fact that Arsenal are apparently prepared to pay much more for him, console ourselves that we got a good deal and happily sit back as Brentford get more than us for doing less?

Moreover, this was eminently predictable but we went ahead anyway without having a permanent replacement!

unsall · September 13, 2020

22 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Lets hope this particular link bears fruit. Every club needs a strong core of players. We've been stalking him for a while. Hopefully we don't get pipped by another club.

My only concern is that Pear drops the ball a lot.

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Gone to seed · September 13, 2020

Get some goddam defenders Tony. Stop arseing around. Get some defenders.

Am a leetle beet fed up with the arseing around.

arbitro · September 13, 2020

2 minutes ago, 47er said:

So we ignore the fact that Arsenal are apparently prepared to pay much more for him, console ourselves that we got a good deal and happily sit back as Brentford get more than us for doing less?

Moreover, this was eminently predictable but we went ahead anyway without having a permanent replacement!

Your highlighted comment is the most pertinent of all in the Raya debate and kind of sums up Mowbrays sometimes ad hoc approach. Raya had mistakes in him for sure but to sign a replacement (who wasn't in the frame when Raya was sold) who was probably worse is poor on Mowbrays part.

Swanson · September 13, 2020

Well that was a nightmare ish "journey", but here are all names (I think) that we have been linked with so far this window (Media, social media, journalist and ITK's on this board)

Dillon Phillips
~~Naby Sarr~~
Nat Phillips
Scott McKenna
Ollie Rathbone
Rob Elliott
~~Cedric Kipre~~
Daniel Ayala
Ansley Pears
Grant Hanley
Ben Whiteman
Liam Lindsay
~~Alfie Mawson~~
~~Steve Sessegnon~~
Harry Souttar
Keiren Westwood
~~David Cornell~~
Philipp Hofmann
~~Daniel Iversen~~
Arijanet Muric
~~Kieran O'Hara~~
Brad Smith
Connor Ripley
~~Florian Hartherz~~
Jonathan Bond
Simon Terodde
~~Patrick Erras~~
~~Stefan Schwab~~
~~Jon McLaughlin~~
Greg Cunningham
James Garner
Niklas Schmidt
~~Kim Jin-su~~
Yasser Larouci
~~Linus Wahlqvist~~
~~Christian Maghoma~~
Mathieu Michel
Jordan Jones
~~Leo Skiri Østigård~~
~~Charlie Goode~~
Kienan Davis
Timo Letschert
Anton Mitryushkin
Elliott Moore
Miiko Albornoz
Aleix García
Florian Hubner
Jaka Bijol
Ronan Darcy
Tom Edwards
Thomas Galdames

I have removed those players I know have found a new club.

Edited September 13, 2020 by Swanson

Paul Mani · September 13, 2020

2 minutes ago, 47er said:

So we ignore the fact that Arsenal are apparently prepared to pay much more for him, console ourselves that we got a good deal and happily sit back as Brentford get more than us for doing less?

Moreover, this was eminently predictable but we went ahead anyway without having a permanent replacement!

That’s the key point here. The fact that we didn’t have a keeper nailed down before we let him go was scandalous. Piss poor.

But no one is telling me that David Raya was / is a world beater. £3m was absolutely enough for him at the time. I’d have pushed for a higher sell on based on him being developed by us.

For what it’s worth, I’m going to stick my neck out and say that Kaminski is much more of what we need in terms of consistency. Raya will undoubtedly be number 2 long term at Arsenal and he’s perfectly placed to develop in that role.

dingles staying down 4ever · September 13, 2020

49 minutes ago, 47er said:

Once again. also after Mowbray publicly and regularly shamed him as being responsible for the problems of the whole defence.

He didn't public castigate anyone else as I recall.

You are wrong. Nyambe was criticised and dropped regularly in favour of Bennett. It is why I suspect he'll run his contract down and walk.

Admiral Nelsen · September 13, 2020

9 minutes ago, dingles staying down 4ever said:

You are wrong. Nyambe was criticised and dropped regularly in favour of Bennett. It is why I suspect he'll run his contract down and walk.

If he was dropped regularly, I'd be interested to know how he still managed to rack up thirty-odd starts whilst at the same time missing plenty of games through injury.

Sparks Rover · September 13, 2020

1 hour ago, Swanson said:

?? Tony at it again....old pals act. Contracts given out like confetti whilst the club goes to the dogs

Tyrone Shoelaces · September 13, 2020

1 hour ago, 1864roverite said:

How do you work out he is worth more than £3m? Where is the evidence to back up your claim? In 50 yrs of watching Rovers I’ve seen the likes of Bradshaw, Jones, Gennoe, Flowers, Bunn, Filan and many more including Brad Friedel. Raya doesn’t come anywhere near them in terms of class. He was not worth over £3m last year. So if and when he does move on then the few Rovers will have received will be in excess of £5m which is very good value for a player who cost faff all. Is he any better than Walton? Stats might say they are in a par with each other it’s what’s in front of them that’s the issue

Better than Walton ? My mum would be better than Walton and she'll be 90 in November. Did he ever make a save apart from the shots that actually hit him ?

OssyLad · September 13, 2020

Albornoz link can go away, no chance I want a player who had a relationship with a 14yr old girl at the club

G Somerset Rover · September 13, 2020

25 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

?? Tony at it again....old pals act. Contracts given out like confetti whilst the club goes to the dogs

Hedge your bets on any CB/LB signing having Boro links too. Ayala was almost over the line - wonder which North East figure they’ll target next after Pears.

47er · September 13, 2020

41 minutes ago, dingles staying down 4ever said:

You are wrong. Nyambe was criticised and dropped regularly in favour of Bennett. It is why I suspect he'll run his contract down and walk.

OK--I forgot about that but its interesting that you expect the same outcome as with Raya. Suppose we can borrow a right-back from Div1!

47er · September 13, 2020

56 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

That’s the key point here. The fact that we didn’t have a keeper nailed down before we let him go was scandalous. Piss poor.

But no one is telling me that David Raya was / is a world beater. £3m was absolutely enough for him at the time. I’d have pushed for a higher sell on based on him being developed by us.

For what it’s worth, I’m going to stick my neck out and say that Kaminski is much more of what we need in terms of consistency. Raya will undoubtedly be number 2 long term at Arsenal and he’s perfectly placed to develop in that role.

But we've still lost a lot of money haven't we?

47er · September 13, 2020

2 hours ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

t I don’t think anyone would have expected Arsenal to come in for him after one season away.

But plenty thought he would go for much more money in the future. A poor decision.

Dolly blue · September 13, 2020

This will not go down well ! ...however, I’ve just listened to Paul Cook for 5 minutes on Sky ( before Ipswich / Wigan game )....deep breath.......I heard more football sense, more passion , more “ I know a player when I see one “ , more talk of pride in playing for football club than I’ve ever heard from Mowbray .

Just look at his signings over the past couple of seasons, what he paid for them how they performed and the money they would have gone for had it not been administration...no fault of his

I know this will be a dreadful post to many but.....he’s available and Mowbray’s here.....you do the thinking on that one

Edited September 13, 2020 by Dolly blue

OssyLad · September 13, 2020

Just now, Dolly blue said:

This will not go down well ! ...however, I’ve just listened to Paul Cook for 5 minutes on Sky ( before Ipswich / Wigan game )....deep breath.......I heard more football sense, more passion , more “ I know a player when I see one “ , more talk of pride in playing for football club than I’ve ever heard from Mowbray .

I know this will be a dreadful post to many but.....he’s available and Mowbray’s here.....you do the thinking on that one

What manager is gonna wanna work under venkys? Come on seriously!! They sack Mowbray and we’ll end up with a nobody and a yes man.

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