Guest Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 27 minutes ago, philipl said: I am getting rather worried about our Boy Wonder. I know I am ahead of you timewise but I was hoping for an announcement early this morning.. President of the selling club has confirmed he's left for Rovers. Hopefully just a case of taking pictures (it's pissing down) along with video interview, him doing training etc! Quote
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RV Blue Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 11 hours ago, Mike E said: The overwhelming majority of deals are done that exact way. They definitely aren’t though, are they? Btw we’re talking about a deal being done pending a post-deadline day medical, that doesn’t exist. Quote
Backroom Mike E Posted October 6, 2020 Backroom Posted October 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, RV Blue said: They definitely aren’t though, are they? Btw we’re talking about a deal being done pending a post-deadline day medical, that doesn’t exist. Ah, post-deadline day medicals, I agree. But deals in the main are completed 'subject to medical' all the time. Medicals are reasonably often a reason deals fall through with everything else having been signed, aren't they? Or have I got mixed up somewhere? 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 58 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: Sort of player you could see them buying back in 2 or 3 years for £50m or something, if he adapts to the top flight well enough of course. He'd have to improve as a defender 100%. However if you're the sort of football manager that thinks John Stones is the answer at centre back you may well be right. 1 Quote
Mercer Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Paul Mani said: I don’t think so mate. Tbf we’ve set our stall out now and they haven’t sold anyone from under Mowbray yet. My guess is that we’ll only sell for BIG money and if we have replacements lined up. Watkins form in the PL won’t be going unnoticed for admirers of Arma. Young, English and prolific at Championship level...but I’d want the same as Brentford got for Watkins and then at least £15m to reinvest. Not a chance. I think Watkins is twice the player of Armstrong in terms of both ability and football intelligence. 2 Quote
Butty Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mercer said: Not a chance. I think Watkins is twice the player of Armstrong in terms of both ability and football intelligence. Of course you do Merce ? put the fishing rod away before I bite. Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, Mellor Rover said: President of the selling club has confirmed he's left for Rovers. Hopefully just a case of taking pictures (it's pissing down) along with video interview, him doing training etc! Yep, imagine that's the hold up. Hopefully confirmed later today. Seems to be a good signing on paper, I just hope that's not our budget screwed (even if it is the mooted £100-£200k) as we're still crying out for a left back! Quote
Blue blood Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Hmm another window goes by and this may be controversial but am a tad disappointed by it. The plus is the keeper situation seems really sorted with two promising keepers. Given we started with none to have this locked down for years is a big step in the right direction. Would have preferred Tosin to Ayala both stylistically and reliability wise, although appreciate wages may have made Ayala a much more realistic target. That said with a fee of £2 mill surely there was room for a bit of enticement from Rovers, a signing on fee, a low release clause for a premiership club etc. However we do have a dependable centre back which is a positive too. Dolan also looks a steal and an unexpected bonus. He plays wide as well which is also good given our squad balance. Given his age and experience however we can't rely on him too heavily. The negatives for me are still mostly in defence. No first choice left back - and though free agents are available it's a much smaller market. We are still a player away (maybe two) from a top 6 team. We also bemoaned last season having only 3 centre backs and unless Warton' makes a step up that's still the case. Especially given one centre back is also covering left back and all 3 have somewhat sketchy injury records. I've banged on elsewhere about a cm so won't repeat myself except to say I feel it is a need. And up front we have lost Graham and Samuel and haven't improved upon Gally and Bereton, which strikes me as rather risky. Another decent attacking player could have made all the difference, especially as neither Gally or Bereton are high scorers and the Gally on the wing experiment seems set to continue, hampering us. We've had a decent start. When we play well we are a good team. No surprise though imo we had a poor result as soon as we are in the playoffs. And I can't help thinking just one or two extra players, a few different options, could have made all the difference Vs Cardiff. And I suspect that might be the case in many other games this season too. Quote
Oldgregg86 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 12 hours ago, bluebruce said: Just watched that highlight reel again and I know it's just a highlight reel but...I reckon when every one of our young prospect keepers sees that reel or watches him in training, they'll be straight on the phone to their agent asking them to find them a new club. Between him and Kaminski, doesn't look like another keeper is breaking through here for the next...oh, 14 years? ? Unless they sell them for a tenner each ?? Quote
Oldgregg86 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mercer said: Not a chance. I think Watkins is twice the player of Armstrong in terms of both ability and football intelligence. Agree. Watkins is better in every aspect than arma 1 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: He'd have to improve as a defender 100%. However if you're the sort of football manager that thinks John Stones is the answer at centre back you may well be right. Defending seems to be secondary to being able to ping a 40 yard pass in that position these days. 1 Quote
islander200 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, Blue blood said: Hmm another window goes by and this may be controversial but am a tad disappointed by it. The plus is the keeper situation seems really sorted with two promising keepers. Given we started with none to have this locked down for years is a big step in the right direction. Would have preferred Tosin to Ayala both stylistically and reliability wise, although appreciate wages may have made Ayala a much more realistic target. That said with a fee of £2 mill surely there was room for a bit of enticement from Rovers, a signing on fee, a low release clause for a premiership club etc. However we do have a dependable centre back which is a positive too. Dolan also looks a steal and an unexpected bonus. He plays wide as well which is also good given our squad balance. Given his age and experience however we can't rely on him too heavily. The negatives for me are still mostly in defence. No first choice left back - and though free agents are available it's a much smaller market. We are still a player away (maybe two) from a top 6 team. We also bemoaned last season having only 3 centre backs and unless Warton' makes a step up that's still the case. Especially given one centre back is also covering left back and all 3 have somewhat sketchy injury records. I've banged on elsewhere about a cm so won't repeat myself except to say I feel it is a need. And up front we have lost Graham and Samuel and haven't improved upon Gally and Bereton, which strikes me as rather risky. Another decent attacking player could have made all the difference, especially as neither Gally or Bereton are high scorers and the Gally on the wing experiment seems set to continue, hampering us. We've had a decent start. When we play well we are a good team. No surprise though imo we had a poor result as soon as we are in the playoffs. And I can't help thinking just one or two extra players, a few different options, could have made all the difference Vs Cardiff. And I suspect that might be the case in many other games this season too. The window isn't shut yet! We can still make permanent and loan signings from premier league and EFL teams for another 10 days 3 Quote
1864roverite Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 33 minutes ago, Blue blood said: Hmm another window goes by and this may be controversial but am a tad disappointed by it. The plus is the keeper situation seems really sorted with two promising keepers. Given we started with none to have this locked down for years is a big step in the right direction. Would have preferred Tosin to Ayala both stylistically and reliability wise, although appreciate wages may have made Ayala a much more realistic target. That said with a fee of £2 mill surely there was room for a bit of enticement from Rovers, a signing on fee, a low release clause for a premiership club etc. However we do have a dependable centre back which is a positive too. Dolan also looks a steal and an unexpected bonus. He plays wide as well which is also good given our squad balance. Given his age and experience however we can't rely on him too heavily. The negatives for me are still mostly in defence. No first choice left back - and though free agents are available it's a much smaller market. We are still a player away (maybe two) from a top 6 team. We also bemoaned last season having only 3 centre backs and unless Warton' makes a step up that's still the case. Especially given one centre back is also covering left back and all 3 have somewhat sketchy injury records. I've banged on elsewhere about a cm so won't repeat myself except to say I feel it is a need. And up front we have lost Graham and Samuel and haven't improved upon Gally and Bereton, which strikes me as rather risky. Another decent attacking player could have made all the difference, especially as neither Gally or Bereton are high scorers and the Gally on the wing experiment seems set to continue, hampering us. We've had a decent start. When we play well we are a good team. No surprise though imo we had a poor result as soon as we are in the playoffs. And I can't help thinking just one or two extra players, a few different options, could have made all the difference Vs Cardiff. And I suspect that might be the case in many other games this season too. It isn’t closed yet the UK window has another 10 days left 1 Quote
Blue blood Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, islander200 said: The window isn't shut yet! We can still make permanent and loan signings from premier league and EFL teams for another 10 days 4 minutes ago, 1864roverite said: It isn’t closed yet the UK window has another 10 days left Well that makes me feel a lot better. Was it just the European one that shut then? I guess that means no more taking advantage of the European scouting network. As I said I feel there is still a lot to do, so it's good that the window hasn't fully closed. Quote
rigger Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 42 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: Defending seems to be secondary to being able to ping a 40 yard pass in that position these days. just take a look at manure. Quote
martonrover Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Blue blood said: Well that makes me feel a lot better. Was it just the European one that shut then? I guess that means no more taking advantage of the European scouting network. As I said I feel there is still a lot to do, so it's good that the window hasn't fully closed. Two anticlimaxes for the price of one ? We could still sign the Norwegian left back, as he's a free agent. Quote
islander200 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, Blue blood said: Well that makes me feel a lot better. Was it just the European one that shut then? I guess that means no more taking advantage of the European scouting network. As I said I feel there is still a lot to do, so it's good that the window hasn't fully closed. Yeah European window shut, and premier league teams can't buy from eachother just from Efl Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, islander200 said: Yeah European window shut, and premier league teams can't buy from eachother just from Efl Does make me nervous about Arma. I personally don’t think he’s PL quality yet but a club struggling may take a punt. Hopefully they’ll go for Josh King or similar instead. 2 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said: Does make me nervous about Arma. I personally don’t think he’s PL quality yet but a club struggling may take a punt. Hopefully they’ll go for Josh King or similar instead. I don't think he's Prem standard either. 1 Quote
pick32 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) Welbeck, Wilshere, Clyne and Ibe will all at some point have to drop wage demands to find a club. Some talent if you could keep them fit and playing regular Edited October 6, 2020 by pick32 Quote
islander200 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, roversfan99 said: Ibe has gone to Derby. He joined them a couple of days before our march against them.They trying to bring in Charlie Austin now Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Whats taking this keeper so long to be announced? Or do we reckon theyre going to try and announce a double signing?! Quote
chaddyrovers Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, pick32 said: Welbeck, Wilshere, Clyne and Ibe will all at some point have to drop wage demands to find a club. Some talent if you could keep them fit and playing regular Clyne signing for Palace. 8 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Whats taking this keeper so long to be announced? Or do we reckon theyre going to try and announce a double signing?! Find out this afternoon when we done the deal or not. Quote
Blue blood Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, islander200 said: He joined them a couple of days before our march against them.They trying to bring in Charlie Austin now How many strikers do they need? Mind you they've had so much talent over the years and still not managed promotion. Can't imagine this lot will be any better, whoever they bring in. Quote
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