bluebruce Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) I can't for the life of me see any sense in us buying Pears at this stage of the game. Seems a ludicrous move. The Greek kid disappointed them already? They're loaning him out too (seems unlikely since probably nobody in England's lower leagues has heard of him)? They're selling Fisher rather than loaning him? They're loaning Eastham out too? Without one of the above, what's going on here? We don't need 3 goalies for the u23s, plus another one out on loan, and none of them are the backup. We do however, so we have been told, need money, so spending some on Pears feels reminiscent of the Smallwood and Hart extensions... Edited October 15, 2020 by bluebruce Quote
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davulsukur Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Wilson was always a long shot, especially if Liverpool are asking for a huge loan fee. Would have been class though 1 Quote
RoverKyle Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 38 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: obviously Harry Wilson is a quality player but does he not play off the right where Dolan plays? If Wilson signs, he starts ahead of Dolan for me. Dolan has been impressive but Wilson's quality is plain to see. Dolan would still get plenty of time off the bench as an impact sub & starts with rotation. Unquestionably more time on the pitch for the first team than he would've expected at the start of the season. 1 Quote
joey_big_nose Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 I'd be okay with Downing coming back. 2 Quote
islander200 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, RoverKyle said: If Wilson signs, he starts ahead of Dolan for me. Dolan has been impressive but Wilson's quality is plain to see. Dolan would still get plenty of time off the bench as an impact sub & starts with rotation. Unquestionably more time on the pitch for the first team than he would've expected at the start of the season. Don't think we have to worry about who starts between Wilson and Dolan.He won't be coming here 2 Quote
Guest Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, RoverKyle said: If Wilson signs, he starts ahead of Dolan for me. Dolan has been impressive but Wilson's quality is plain to see. Dolan would still get plenty of time off the bench as an impact sub & starts with rotation. Unquestionably more time on the pitch for the first team than he would've expected at the start of the season. Wont have to worry about that. Quote
RoverKyle Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Haha alright lads. Merely commenting back to a post suggesting we don't need him as we have Dolan. A lot more relevant than the drivel that's been on here recently. At least it was based on an actual rumour. Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, RoverKyle said: Merely commenting back to a post suggesting we don't need him as we have Dolan. I wasn't suggesting that, I was asking where Wilson played. Quote
rigger Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: I wasn't suggesting that, I was asking where Wilson played. His best position is the same one Dack would play. Quote
RoverKyle Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: obviously Harry Wilson is a quality player but does he not play off the right where Dolan plays? Why mention Dolan if you weren't insinuating you wouldn't want to sign someone for the position he plays in? Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted October 15, 2020 Moderation Lead Posted October 15, 2020 Harry Wilson would be one hell of a signing, but I can’t see us being able to afford him. Which is fair enough to be honest, I’d rather we spent the cash we have on players we need, rather than luxuries. Plus, I’d have thought he’d be holding out for a PL move, having played there last year. Quote
briansol Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Rich Sharpe says Wilson is a non-starter. Other reports claims a 3 mill(!) loan fee for the season, so can probably put that one to rest. Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, RoverKyle said: Why mention Dolan if you weren't insinuating you wouldn't want to sign someone for the position he plays in? There'd be no point mentioning a player where I thought he didn't play e.g.. 'does he not play where Bell plays'. Edited October 15, 2020 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama Quote
Ewood Ace Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, K-Hod said: Which is fair enough to be honest, I’d rather we spent the cash we have on players we need, rather than luxuries. Plus, I’d have thought he’d be holding out for a PL move, having played there last year. He can't move to a Premiership club until January. 2 Quote
islander200 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, K-Hod said: Harry Wilson would be one hell of a signing, but I can’t see us being able to afford him. Which is fair enough to be honest, I’d rather we spent the cash we have on players we need, rather than luxuries. Plus, I’d have thought he’d be holding out for a PL move, having played there last year. He can't move to a premier league club at least until January.Prem to Prem transfers ain't permitted in this second window . We won't sign him but say it is likely he will join a championship team on loan before deadline Quote
Mercer Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Well if Mowbray brings in 2 or 3, I don't think he can have any excuse whatsoever if he fails to get us promoted this season when many on here think we've had a great window. Get us up this season or on yer bike Mowbray - you've had both enough time and backing in the transfer market. 3 Quote
magicalmortensleftpeg Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mercer said: Well if Mowbray brings in 2 or 3, I don't think he can have any excuse whatsoever if he fails to get us promoted this season when many on here think we've had a great window. Get us up this season or on yer bike Mowbray - you've had both enough time and backing in the transfer market. Is that a backhanded compliment that if we get 2/3 in then it’s been a good window..? Quote
Wood26 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mercer said: Well if Mowbray brings in 2 or 3, I don't think he can have any excuse whatsoever if he fails to get us promoted this season when many on here think we've had a great window. Get us up this season or on yer bike Mowbray - you've had both enough time and backing in the transfer market. Nice one mate, then let’s give the job to a random who has no relationship with this young squad which has been built and hope for the best. If he fails, sack him, try again, and again. God forbid we try and build a club again. 3 Quote
roversfan99 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Wood26 said: Nice one mate, then let’s give the job to a random who has no relationship with this young squad which has been built and hope for the best. If he fails, sack him, try again, and again. God forbid we try and build a club again. To "build a club" you dont necessarily have to stick to a manager indefinitely. If Mowbray was to go at the end of the season, it would be following 4 and a half years as manager, he is already I think the longest serving manager in the division, so it wouldnt be a rash, impatient decision should this be his final season. Ultimately, the target has to be top 6. Of course, that leaves scope for still not getting promoted but it would be tangible progress even if we made the play offs and didnt win them. If he can get us in the top 6 this season, that would be the sign of progression. Another mid table finish (or worse) would for me be the time to signal a change, accepting that Mowbray very much has left us in a capable position, has maybe hit a wall, and we might have to sell one or two dependant on their willingness to commit long term, and then that would potentially be the time for some fresh ideas. I think that is a fair and realistic target for a manager entrusted with time and resources to date. 5 Quote
JHRover Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) Before getting carried away we need to understand what sort of additions these mysterious '2 or 3' players are going to be. Obviously if we sign 3 and in doing so strengthen 3 or 4 areas of the pitch with quality then we will all be delighted and optimistic for the rest of the season. I think this is what we need to be doing to have any chance of sustaining our current early position. If we sign 2 or 3 and they comprise another backup goalkeeper and some unheard of kid in midfield who we are getting to try and develop then I'm not sure how much further along we will be. Pears, Douglas and a lad in midfield would be a bit meh, because I think only one of them would immediately improve the side. Douglas and two other established players along with Downing would be very nice indeed, because we could improve 2-3 positions plus add valuable experience and versatility in Downing. Edited October 15, 2020 by JHRover 1 Quote
Popular Post islander200 Posted October 15, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, JHRover said: Before getting carried away we need to understand what sort of additions these mysterious '2 or 3' players are going to be. Obviously if we sign 3 and in doing so strengthen 3 or 4 areas of the pitch with quality then we will all be delighted and optimistic for the rest of the season. I think this is what we need to be doing to have any chance of sustaining our current early position. If we sign 2 or 3 and they comprise another backup goalkeeper and some unheard of kid in midfield who we are getting to try and develop Pears, Douglas and a lad in midfield would be a bit meh, because I think only one of them would immediately improve the side. Douglas and two other established players along with Downing would be very nice indeed, because we could improve 2-3 positions plus add valuable experience and versatility in Downing. But we don't have the money for that though. Kaminski, Ayala, Douglas (if he signs) improves our first 11 from last season imo. Bradley Johnson looks a much better player this year.Rankin Costello integrated into the squad. Buckley seems to be coming into it a bit more.Holtby seems to have found his place in the side.Better signs from Rothwell also.Been a lot of improvement in Armstrong since he moved up front. Dolan keeps playing the way he is another improvement on our first 11.Brereton looks improved. Pears or the Greek guy are surely better than Leutwiler? Our best player in Dack still to come back. With the addition of Douglas we have a better first 11 and squad than last year imo. Another established midfielder would be nice but if we don't have the money what can we do,other than take a chance on a premier league loan? An awful lot to be positive about imo Edited October 15, 2020 by islander200 12 Quote
LeftWinger Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, islander200 said: Rankin Costello integrated into the Buckley Not sure that is Covid compliant. 4 Quote
islander200 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, LeftWinger said: Not sure that is Covid compliant. Lol edited now haha 1 Quote
Stuart Posted October 15, 2020 Author Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, briansol said: 3 mill(!) loan fee Football in 2020 summed up in four words. (And this is during a pandemic!) Quote
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