Paul Mani Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, JacknOry said: Exactly, before Elliott I could understand it as a utility player, and before Trybull I would have totally agreed with it. Now, however, I just do not see where he fits in. People are already posting first team 11's without players like Rothwell and Johnson getting in - which is harsh considering their performances so far this season and now we might be adding another who is unlikely to get in and be quite a way down the pecking order. They must’ve done their numbers!? Im waiting for Joe or one of our other top guys to run a predicted 25 to see who makes the cut and which players aren’t included in the numbers (u21 / academy etc)....My heads spinning now! Quote
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Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 As an aside, after all the speculation, Josh King went nowhere! Quote
Paul Mani Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: Depending on the cost, it could be more of a dressing room signing now...role model for the younger kids, odd appearance here and there if needed. Holtby looks a much better midfield option than Downing. There’s certainly a chance of that...maybe even some coaching? I love Downing but i don’t want him playing every week in front of some of these guys. Quote
Paul Mani Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: As an aside, after all the speculation, Josh King went nowhere! Yeah, that’s a pisser because if he runs his contract down we’ll get nothing! ? 1 Quote
JacknOry Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: As an aside, after all the speculation, Josh King went nowhere! Which is doubly annoying as they still have him in our division and secondly, we didnt get a cut of a fee. 2 Quote
dingles staying down 4ever Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 The only two places I can see for Downing are a. Is left back cover b. Coming off the bench as midfield cover late in games as the old head. Johnson will pick up bookings so in some games it maybe necessary to take him off and we may need a wily old campaigner to help close out a game. 2 Quote
Paul Mani Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 I saw this on twitter last night and laughed...but seriously...Dolan, Dack, Elliott and Arma ? ? 4 Quote
JacknOry Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: They must’ve done their numbers!? Im waiting for Joe or one of our other top guys to run a predicted 25 to see who makes the cut and which players aren’t included in the numbers (u21 / academy etc)....My heads spinning now! I think we do probably have one more space in the 25 (not including u21 players) - somebody did it last night (think was Joe). Still, for the positions he will cover, it still makes little sense to me. After the window we have had though, I will trust TM on this one. Quote
JacknOry Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, dingles staying down 4ever said: The only two places I can see for Downing are a. Is left back cover b. Coming off the bench as midfield cover late in games as the old head. Johnson will pick up bookings so in some games it maybe necessary to take him off and we may need a wily old campaigner to help close out a game. For me he doesnt even make the bench though - unless injuries. I can kind of see why we have gone for numbers though. With so many games in a short space of time its going to be a challenge. Likely to be more knocks and injuries etc. 1 Quote
Paul Mani Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, dingles staying down 4ever said: The only two places I can see for Downing are a. Is left back cover b. Coming off the bench as midfield cover late in games as the old head. Johnson will pick up bookings so in some games it maybe necessary to take him off and we may need a wily old campaigner to help close out a game. A - Only if he’s ready to banish Bell ala Smallwood, Mulgrew etc - which I don’t think he will. B - if he’s willing to put him on the bench before Buckley, Trybull, Evans and even Rothwell once Trav is back... Quote
dingles staying down 4ever Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 Just now, JacknOry said: For me he doesnt even make the bench though - unless injuries. I can kind of see why we have gone for numbers though. With so many games in a short space of time its going to be a challenge. Likely to be more knocks and injuries etc. He'll make the bench as we haven't got much cover who could fill in at full back other than Bell or JRC. JRC could gave you cover but little experience Quote
Paul Mani Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, JacknOry said: I think we do probably have one more space in the 25 (not including u21 players) - somebody did it last night (think was Joe). Still, for the positions he will cover, it still makes little sense to me. After the window we have had though, I will trust TM on this one. Does the u21 / academy rule count to all players from our academy regardless of age (eg Nyambe, Lenihan, Trav etc) or just to those from the academy who are still 21 or under? Quote
JacknOry Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, dingles staying down 4ever said: He'll make the bench as we haven't got much cover who could fill in at full back other than Bell or JRC. JRC could gave you cover but little experience JRC would be on the bench ahead of him simply because he can cover more positions. He can cover RB, LB and both flanks - can also play CM too if needs be. Quote
JacknOry Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Paul Mani said: Does the u21 / academy rule count to all players from our academy regardless of age (eg Nyambe, Lenihan, Trav etc) or just to those from the academy who are still 21 or under? All players we own that are u21 do not have to be registered as far as I know. Players under that age on loan (Elliott) do have to be registered. 1 Quote
dingles staying down 4ever Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Paul Mani said: A - Only if he’s ready to banish Bell ala Smallwood, Mulgrew etc - which I don’t think he will. B - if he’s willing to put him on the bench before Buckley, Trybull, Evans and even Rothwell once Trav is back... Yes but from the bench he gives you full back cover for left and right where Bell only gives cover at left back. He also can give experience in midfield defensively that Buckley and Rothwell dont. As a sub he gives options that present squad may take two or three players to cover defensively so allowing more attacking options from the bench. 1 Quote
dingles staying down 4ever Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, JacknOry said: JRC would be on the bench ahead of him simply because he can cover more positions. He can cover RB, LB and both flanks - can also play CM too if needs be. and Downing can't? Also not as injury prone as JRC. Personally I wouldnt sign Downing but Im looking at reasons why Mowbray wants to Quote
Paul Mani Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 Just now, dingles staying down 4ever said: Yes but from the bench he gives you full back cover for left and right where Bell only gives cover at left back. He also can give experience in midfield defensively that Buckley and Rothwell dont. As a sub he gives options that present squad may take two or three players to cover defensively so allowing more attacking options from the bench. Fair point. Bloody good option to have I guess. Mowbray being backed to the hilt! Get Rothwell, JRC and Nyambe signed up to long term contracts by Christmas and we’re rocking!! Quote
JacknOry Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 We could do with the 5 subs rule coming back 4 Quote
dingles staying down 4ever Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 I guess now the deadline has passed, contracts have to be addressed 1 Quote
Paul Mani Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, JacknOry said: All players we own that are u21 do not have to be registered as far as I know. Players under that age on loan (Elliott) do have to be registered. So, I’m assuming of the first team regulars that’s Buckley, JRC and Dolan? The rest need registering? Quote
JacknOry Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Paul Mani said: So, I’m assuming of the first team regulars that’s Buckley, JRC and Dolan? The rest need registering? The Greek GK and possibly some of our younger CBs? too? But Yes and Joe did it last night. Edited October 17, 2020 by JacknOry Quote
Paul Mani Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 Just now, JacknOry said: The Greek GK and possibly some of our younger CBs? too? Yeah...doesn’t leave too much room though! ? Quote
JacknOry Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 14 hours ago, JoeH said: Kaminski - REG Pears - REG Stergiakis - U21 Eastham - U21 Hilton - UNREG? Fisher - UNREG? Bennett - REG Nyambe - REG JRC - REG Lenihan - REG Ayala - REG Williams - REG Wharton - REG Bell - REG Douglas - REG Magloire - U21 Carter - U21 Travis - REG Johnson - REG Trybull - REG Holtby - REG Evans - REG Davenport - REG Buckley - U21 Dolan - U21 Rothwell - REG Dack - REG Chapman - REG Brereton - REG Armstrong - REG Gallagher - REG McBride - U21 Butterworth - U21 Vale - U21 Brennan - U21 Elliott (if registered) takes us to 24, with one spot left I think? Here 1 Quote
dingles staying down 4ever Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 One spot left for Downing Quote
Paul Mani Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, dingles staying down 4ever said: One spot left for Downing Looks like it!! I suppose if you had the budget to fill it then Downing is the perfect choice...great experience, versatile, model pro, positive influence in the dressing room and still a very good footballer. 4 Quote
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