garnersfags Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Paul Mani said: I still genuinely believe both of those players will play a part in our success this season. Like every Rovers fan, I'm desperate to be proved wrong, but the fact that our £12 million strikeforce will both be on the bench when everyone is fit, is all I need to say on this. 1 Quote
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Tyrone Shoelaces Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Wood26 said: Big Sam was in charge, fans were restless as not hitting heights of Hughes. We had no money, Walker family wanted out wouldn’t invest. We was always going down. If Venkys knew then what they did now they could of saved us, but they didn’t. Point is with or with out them, I know we finished 10th, but you could see writing on the wall. Venkys were awful don’t get me wrong, but now they aren’t, so quit crying and back the new era. There's no way we would have got relegated under Big Sam. The first thing I did when I heard he'd been fired was to look at the league table to see how many points we needed to get to safety. I knew we were in trouble from that point. Edited October 17, 2020 by Tyrone Shoelaces 5 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, garnersfags said: Like every Rovers fan, I'm desperate to be proved wrong, but the fact that our £12 million strikeforce will both be on the bench when everyone is fit, is all I need to say on this. Agreed, Gally will never be effective out wide and I'm yet to see what BB offers. I honestly think they both look like relics of his old style and don't fit in with his new Liverpool-style approach. Dolan and Elliot are both quick and nippy like Mane and Salah. Gally and BB both look laboured in comparison. He'll play both BB and SG today! 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 6 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said: Yes, the sort of stuff we were taught at Primary School. I had a secretary years ago, lovely kind lady, great typist but always got "not" and "now" mixed up. In a sales report it could make a hell of a difference! Two that even draughtsmen used to get wrong all the time - Guage ( Gauge ) and Gaurd ( Guard ). 1 Quote
Ruaney Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 Downing is being brought in because Bennett is injured. That’s the only reason I can see for why it is happening! I’m not against it in that sense, we need some experience on the bench. Quote
Atko's Engine Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 Well that was a fun day deadline wise, made even better because I woke up this morning and it wasn't a dream! Some excellent looking additions have been made across this window offering a real mix of competition, depth, creativity potential & winning experience, all done at relatively low cost. Equally significantly, we've kept hold of our main men whilst having moved on some of those who no longer offered enough value. I'm really pleased, though of course the proof will be in the pudding & TM has given himself some real positive selection headaches. I think he views this season, rightly, as the one to go for it. Certainly subject to luck with injuries, he's got to be achieving top 6 now minimum as he's assembled the tool to do it. 1 Quote
Roverinbelfast Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, garnersfags said: Like every Rovers fan, I'm desperate to be proved wrong, but the fact that our £12 million strikeforce will both be on the bench when everyone is fit, is all I need to say on this. Whilst our 2.5 million strike force are killing teams. (aa, dack, dolan). You win some you loose some. Show me one manager ever that has 100% record with transfers. 2 Quote
Paul Mani Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, garnersfags said: Like every Rovers fan, I'm desperate to be proved wrong, but the fact that our £12 million strikeforce will both be on the bench when everyone is fit, is all I need to say on this. Only if your a glass half empty guy. If you were glass half full you might love the fact that our best players Dack, AA, Lenihan and Travis worth what, £60m in current market? Cost us £3.75m. How much could Dolan be worth by Christmas? You might also think that the development of say BB who is 20? Will likely see him justify that fee. ??♂️ 2 Quote
Doug Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 One of the best transfer windows I can remember (post Uncle Jack), I cannot think of any negatives. Gonna take a week or two to get them bedded in but the potential, on paper anyway, is excellent and exciting. Well done to the management team in achieving this. 1 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 Just now, Paul Mani said: Only if your a glass half empty guy. I Come on, lets not do the 'positive' 'negative' nonsense. It just shuts down debate. Fact is Gally and BB have shown very little to justify their price tags....Dack and AA have both been brilliant signings. Just now, Paul Mani said: You might also think that the development of say BB who is 20? Will likely see him justify that fee. ??♂️ Absolutely nothing to signal he'll justify £6m 5 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ruaney said: Downing is being brought in because Bennett is injured. That’s the only reason I can see for why it is happening! I’m not against it in that sense, we need some experience on the bench. That's a pointless signing for me if it does happen. It's great to have all these new players coming in but I'm a bit concerned about keeping them all happy and having a settled team and a coherent, consistent way of playing in the immediate future. We all know Tony like to meddle. We'll soon see. 3 Quote
A Northern Horde... Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Wood26 said: We was on the road to hell before Venkys took over Hang on pal....'the road to hell' was watching helplessly as this proud Club plummeted to Div1 with 160 Million of debt. All under the tenure of the Loons from Pune. Case of selective memory loss there? Edited October 17, 2020 by A Northern Horde... 2 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 Downing is a versatile and experienced so makes sense to sign him on again. We've got 7 games in the next 20 days and we're already struggling with injuries. Bigger squad the better. 5 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Downing is a versatile and experienced so makes sense to sign him on again. We've got 7 games in the next 20 days and we're already struggling with injuries. Bigger squad the better. If he's that useful why has nobody else come in for him ? Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) On the squad in general, an injury or two in key areas and we're struggling. It's been hyped massively on social media and on here how great our squad is. but an injury to Nyambe today and we don't have a right full back, an injury to an injury-prone Douglas and we're back to Bell. An injury to injury-prone Ayala and we're massively relying on injury-prone Lenihan never to get injured. The depth of the defence is still quite weak IMO. Edited October 17, 2020 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama Quote
Butty Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Downing is a versatile and experienced so makes sense to sign him on again. We've got 7 games in the next 20 days and we're already struggling with injuries. Bigger squad the better. Not someone you’re going to say no to having as a squad player, and I think the dressing room needs someone of his experience in as well, he showed last season he still has good quality on the ball. Can’t see him being on fortunes either. 3 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said: If he's that useful why has nobody else come in for him ? He wanted to come back here and he'd got the nod from Mogga that money would be there to sign him once the window was shut? And how do you know he didn't have other offers? Quote
EgyptianPete Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: On the squad in general, an injury or two in key areas and we're struggling. It's been hyped massively on social media and on here how great our squad is. but an injury to Nyambe today and we don't have a right full back, an injury to an injury-prone Douglas and we're back to Bell. An injury to injury-prone Ayala and we're massively relying on injury-prone Lenihan never to get injured. The depth of the defence is still quite weak IMO. Its a bloody sight better than it was 2months ago by a country mile. 1 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 Just now, EgyptianPete said: Its a bloody sight better than it was 2months ago by a country mile. Bit angry there fella. Just saying injuries to key personnel in defence and we're in trouble. In midfield and up front I think we're looking good. Quote
Popular Post frosty Posted October 17, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 17, 2020 9 hours ago, Wood26 said: Big Sam was in charge, fans were restless as not hitting heights of Hughes. We had no money, Walker family wanted out wouldn’t invest. We was always going down. If Venkys knew then what they did now they could of saved us, but they didn’t. 'They could have saved us'? You make it sound like we were up against it big time and despite Venky's best efforts, we fell to an inevitable relegation. Madness. Only one thing caused our decline and that's them. Our 'road to hell' in the five seasons before they rocked up: 6th (+ League Cup semi), 10th (+ FA Cup semi and Europa League knockout stages), 7th, 15th, 10th (+ League Cup semi). We were in zero danger and, as you mention by referencing Hughes, fans were looking up rather than down. 16 Quote
m1st Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, JoeH said: Benno is going to be out for months so why don’t we put the hate on the back burner considering it means absolutely nothing right now. Just got in from the Saturday Big Shop, so I hadn't seen this before. My earlier comment certainly wasn't intended as 'hate' for Bennett. For some time, I haven't seen what he's added to the pre-yesterday squad, other than being a conduit between TM and the Dressing Room. Comments I read about Douglas yesterday - and the links between TM and Downing - made me think that, if my view were correct, then either, or both of, Douglas and Downing could fill that role. Quote
Popular Post Mattyblue Posted October 17, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 17, 2020 Just now, frosty said: 'They could have saved us'? You make it sound like we were up against it big time and despite Venky's best efforts, we fell to an inevitable relegation. Madness. Only one thing caused our decline and that's them. Our 'road to hell' in the five seasons before they rocked up: 6th (+ League Cup semi), 10th (+ FA Cup semi and Europa League knockout stages), 7th, 15th, 10th (+ League Cup semi). We were in zero danger and, as you mention by referencing Hughes, fans were looking up rather than down. It’s all comes down to an irrational dislike of Allardyce, all kinds of mental gymnastics to justify them cheering his sacking from the rafters that day, instead of seeing it as a warning sign in giant capital letters. 15 Quote
47er Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 35 minutes ago, Roverinbelfast said: Whilst our 2.5 million strike force are killing teams. (aa, dack, dolan). You win some you loose some. Show me one manager ever that has 100% record with transfers. No-one expects the manager to have a 100% record but we expect £12M to be spent so much better than that. Especially when we are not exactly a rich club. Anyway, as I've said, he's done so much better with virtually no money I wouldn't blame them if the owners kept it that way. 2 Quote
Paul Mani Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Come on, lets not do the 'positive' 'negative' nonsense. It just shuts down debate. Fact is Gally and BB have shown very little to justify their price tags....Dack and AA have both been brilliant signings. Absolutely nothing to signal he'll justify £6m Just opinions. Quote
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