Mercer Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: No JW Upper (corporates aside)? If we thought shutting the Blackburn End Upper and DE caused a stink - the JW Upper has thousands of long standing ST holders, with months out of the ground, folk getting out of the habit, plenty of them older supporters, now having to move seats, rightly or wrongly I imagine plenty will take a look at their options in the JW lower or Riverside - and think ‘nah!’ Sat in JW Upper since built. Waggott can feck off if he thinks I'd even contemplate sitting anywhere else. I think Waggott is an incompetent imbecile who is way out of his depth as CEO of Rovers. 7 Quote
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Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted September 10, 2020 Moderation Lead Posted September 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: No JW Upper (corporates aside)? If we thought shutting the Blackburn End Upper and DE caused a stink - the JW Upper has thousands of long standing ST holders, with months out of the ground, folk getting out of the habit, plenty of them older supporters, now having to move seats, rightly or wrongly I imagine plenty will take a look at their options in the JW lower or Riverside - and think ‘nah!’ Looks like I’m moving then! Quote
Popular Post arbitro Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2020 27 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: No JW Upper (corporates aside)? If we thought shutting the Blackburn End Upper and DE caused a stink - the JW Upper has thousands of long standing ST holders, with months out of the ground, folk getting out of the habit, plenty of them older supporters, now having to move seats, rightly or wrongly I imagine plenty will take a look at their options in the JW lower or Riverside - and think ‘nah!’ I'm not too precious about my own seat or even sitting in the JW Upper as we have for some years but what really irritates me is that the whole stand is being given over to the prawn sandwich brigade many of whom only go to a few games as guests. Also a lot of them don't even enter the ground but prefer to stay drinking in the lounges. But as they pay more then they are treated better than us ordinary fans. And Waggott and his cohorts will still get their free admission to the best seats in the house. 10 Quote
Mattyblue Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 1 minute ago, arbitro said: I'm not too precious about my own seat or even sitting in the JW Upper as we have for some years but what really irritates me is that the whole stand is being given over to the prawn sandwich brigade many of whom only go to a few games as guests. Also a lot of them don't even enter the ground but prefer to stay drinking in the lounges. But as they pay more then they are treated better than us ordinary fans. And Waggott and his cohorts will still get their free admission to the best seats in the house. Easier to ‘monetise’ or whatever other BS terminology he’s learnt on his MBA this month... Quote
JHRover Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, arbitro said: I'm not too precious about my own seat or even sitting in the JW Upper as we have for some years but what really irritates me is that the whole stand is being given over to the prawn sandwich brigade many of whom only go to a few games as guests. Also a lot of them don't even enter the ground but prefer to stay drinking in the lounges. But as they pay more then they are treated better than us ordinary fans. And Waggott and his cohorts will still get their free admission to the best seats in the house. Yep. Sums it up. Presumably the hospitality folk will have no issues gaining admittance for the pilot fixture whilst us plebs have to enter a ballot to decide who gets to go. Quote
Popular Post Parsonblue Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, arbitro said: I'm not too precious about my own seat or even sitting in the JW Upper as we have for some years but what really irritates me is that the whole stand is being given over to the prawn sandwich brigade many of whom only go to a few games as guests. Also a lot of them don't even enter the ground but prefer to stay drinking in the lounges. But as they pay more then they are treated better than us ordinary fans. And Waggott and his cohorts will still get their free admission to the best seats in the house. I'll be honest, I've sat in the Jack Walker upper since it was built and in the Nuttall Street Stand before that. I would happily sit anywhere in the JW upper but I will not buy a season ticket to sit behind the goals in the Blackburn End. As you know, we often have to do that at away games and I really don't enjoy watching football from that viewpoint. I had every intention of buying a season ticket even though I thought I would probably not go to many games because of the virus. However, now that I know I'm going to be kicked out of the JW upper to allow corporate to have that area I doubt if I'll bother renewing. 17 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Parsonblue said: I'll be honest, I've sat in the Jack Walker upper since it was built and in the Nuttall Street Stand before that. I would happily sit anywhere in the JW upper but I will not buy a season ticket to sit behind the goals in the Blackburn End. As you know, we often have to do that at away games and I really don't enjoy watching football from that viewpoint. I had every intention of buying a season ticket even though I thought I would probably not go to many games because of the virus. However, now that I know I'm going to be kicked out of the JW upper to allow corporate to have that area I doubt if I'll bother renewing. What about the JW lower? Like I said in my earlier post, I think unfortunately a lot of long standing fans will feel the same as this. 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) If folk like Parson don’t renew, then the numbers will be a train wreck. Waggott simply does not understand the fanbase, at all. But at least there will be a few dozen Sodexho meals sold in the Premier Suite... Edited September 10, 2020 by Mattyblue 5 Quote
JHRover Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: What about the JW lower? Like I said in my earlier post, I think unfortunately a lot of long standing fans will feel the same as this. Are they doing away with the family stand? Because if not you need to buy a child ticket to be able to sit in half of the JW lower. The other half is already well populated with ST holders (me and my mates among them), the empty seats are down nearer the DE and corner flag. I'd like to know what the clubs intentions are here because currently most seats in the Jw lower are taken by ST holders. Some will need to move elsewhere. They can't surely be planning on turfing people out of there but then moving others from elsewhere in. I'd also like to know why as a paid up 1875 club member I will have to enter a ballot on level pegging with non members and on a lower pegging than hospitality people. Quote
MarkBRFC Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 Yeah, the whole thing is going to be a bit of a mess. Are they opening up the Darwen End lower to help with social distancing too? No mention of it on that article. Quote
Mattyblue Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 The article reads more ‘how do we put 5,000 people in a few areas as possible?’, not ‘how do we utilise our massive ground in a time of social distancing?’ Quote
Waggy76 Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Mercer said: Sat in JW Upper since built. Waggott can feck off if he thinks I'd even contemplate sitting anywhere else. I think Waggott is an incompetent imbecile who is way out of his depth as CEO of Rovers. Waggott Out !!! 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 Nice of Waggott to communicate too, 2 days before the season starts having not bothered to ever update the fans on the official sites with regular updates, even if it is just to keep that line of communicate too. A man very much not earning his substantial salary. 3 Quote
Mercer Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Parsonblue said: I'll be honest, I've sat in the Jack Walker upper since it was built and in the Nuttall Street Stand before that. I would happily sit anywhere in the JW upper but I will not buy a season ticket to sit behind the goals in the Blackburn End. As you know, we often have to do that at away games and I really don't enjoy watching football from that viewpoint. I had every intention of buying a season ticket even though I thought I would probably not go to many games because of the virus. However, now that I know I'm going to be kicked out of the JW upper to allow corporate to have that area I doubt if I'll bother renewing. Totally in agreement with you. Based upon my experience and knowledge of fans who sit there, think there will be many in JW Upper who feel the same. I thinks it's crass management which will alienate hundreds of fans at a minimum and when fans like yourself feel that way then the alarm bells at Ewood should well and truly be screeching. 4 Quote
geedog13 Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, JHRover said: Yep. Sums it up. Presumably the hospitality folk will have no issues gaining admittance for the pilot fixture whilst us plebs have to enter a ballot to decide who gets to go. The ballot is only for the trial match to see how it works to see if we can go back the st will be on sale lower tiers first then once sold out uppers next if demand for them Quote
barry_ Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 Strange that the option of 'lower stands' doesn't apply to the DE. I can only take that to mean that the fucktsrd maggot doesn't want it open to home fans. full stop. Quote
tomphil Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 Good old Swaggo get the white collars in first in the prime seats. Quote
Popular Post arbitro Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Parsonblue said: I'll be honest, I've sat in the Jack Walker upper since it was built and in the Nuttall Street Stand before that. I would happily sit anywhere in the JW upper but I will not buy a season ticket to sit behind the goals in the Blackburn End. As you know, we often have to do that at away games and I really don't enjoy watching football from that viewpoint. I had every intention of buying a season ticket even though I thought I would probably not go to many games because of the virus. However, now that I know I'm going to be kicked out of the JW upper to allow corporate to have that area I doubt if I'll bother renewing. Your post really saddens me Parson and really reflects poorly on the club and the way they treat loyal, dedicated supporters who were here long before the current incumbents and will almost certainly be here long after they have gone. I don't think there has been any consultation with supporter groups or even affected individuals, it's just another announcement without too much thought for the consequences to look after corporates of whom many don't support the club and are essentially on a jolly up. How many of them go to Swansea on a midweek Winters night to support the team? I have said before I know a couple of posters who frequent this board who could do a far better job than Waggott largely through understanding how we locals tick. I get these are unprecedented times but having our collective noses rubbed in the dirt by Waggott is just not acceptable. 16 Quote
Popular Post Parsonblue Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, arbitro said: Your post really saddens me Parson and really reflects poorly on the club and the way they treat loyal, dedicated supporters who were here long before the current incumbents and will almost certainly be here long after they have gone. I don't think there has been any consultation with supporter groups or even affected individuals, it's just another announcement without too much thought for the consequences to look after corporates of whom many don't support the club and are essentially on a jolly up. How many of them go to Swansea on a midweek Winters night to support the team? I have said before I know a couple of posters who frequent this board who could do a far better job than Waggott largely through understanding how we locals tick. I get these are unprecedented times but having our collective noses rubbed in the dirt by Waggott is just not acceptable. I'll be honest arbitro, I've tried to support the club on here throughout this difficult period and tried to understand the problems the club is facing. But they really do make it difficult. If they had said we are keeping the JW Upper closed because of costs or the difficulties in making it Covid secure I could understand that and accept that. But to throw out long time season ticket holders - many like myself who are senior citizens shall we say - in favour of the corporate brigade is, quite frankly, nothing short of disgraceful. The JW Upper is one of the larger seated areas, it's an area where older fans may well have felt more secure in terms of social distancing but instead lets bunch everyone together in the lower tier as it will look better on TV. As you say, when we are both at Swansea or Cardiff on a cold wet Wednesday night, where are the corporate mob at that point? I know that Covid is making life difficult for every one of us and every business is facing difficult decisions but the Rovers seem unable to grasp that looking after an ever decreasing supporter base is going to be vital, not just this season but in the years to come. Covid-19 could easily become Mr. Waggott's 1960 Cup Final fiasco! 22 Quote
rigger Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 50 minutes ago, geedog13 said: The ballot is only for the trial match to see how it works to see if we can go back the st will be on sale lower tiers first then once sold out uppers next if demand for them I don’t think a trial match will go ahead so no ballot. I don’t think we will sell out lower tiers even if we used the cardboard cut-outs. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 For any fans who got questions Quote
Hasta Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 36 minutes ago, Parsonblue said: I'll be honest arbitro, I've tried to support the club on here throughout this difficult period and tried to understand the problems the club is facing. But they really do make it difficult. If they had said we are keeping the JW Upper closed because of costs or the difficulties in making it Covid secure I could understand that and accept that. But to throw out long time season ticket holders - many like myself who are senior citizens shall we say - in favour of the corporate brigade is, quite frankly, nothing short of disgraceful. The JW Upper is one of the larger seated areas, it's an area where older fans may well have felt more secure in terms of social distancing but instead lets bunch everyone together in the lower tier as it will look better on TV. As you say, when we are both at Swansea or Cardiff on a cold wet Wednesday night, where are the corporate mob at that point? I know that Covid is making life difficult for every one of us and every business is facing difficult decisions but the Rovers seem unable to grasp that looking after an ever decreasing supporter base is going to be vital, not just this season but in the years to come. Covid-19 could easily become Mr. Waggott's 1960 Cup Final fiasco! I don't think they need anywhere near the full JW upper for corporate. I think they are overestimating demand here. They should have halved the stand, with corporate going into one half and X amount of season tickets available in the other on a first come first served basis. 1 Quote
Stuart Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Parsonblue said: I'll be honest, I've sat in the Jack Walker upper since it was built and in the Nuttall Street Stand before that. I would happily sit anywhere in the JW upper but I will not buy a season ticket to sit behind the goals in the Blackburn End. As you know, we often have to do that at away games and I really don't enjoy watching football from that viewpoint. I had every intention of buying a season ticket even though I thought I would probably not go to many games because of the virus. However, now that I know I'm going to be kicked out of the JW upper to allow corporate to have that area I doubt if I'll bother renewing. When a supporter like you makes a statement like that you know that the club has gone too far. This will be kicking the hardcore in the nuts. In another point, Waggott has said “ticket prices are ready”. I’m assuming this price will be reduced pro rata for every game missed but I’m certainly not convinced. 1 Quote
rigger Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Stuart said: When a supporter like you makes a statement like that you know that the club has gone too far. This will be kicking the hardcore in the nuts. In another point, Waggott has said “ticket prices are ready”. I’m assuming this price will be reduced pro rata for every game missed but I’m certainly not convinced. You have used a word that doesn’t appear in Swags vocabulary. Reduced. Quote
roversfan99 Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 49 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: For any fans who got questions Should it be left to a junior journalist not associated directly with the club to be doing this? Not sure he can tell us anything that we dont already know. 1 Quote
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